00:03:47 <tomman> yup, a simple rename should work then
00:10:38 <tomman> and all is zen again
00:11:16 <tomman> nsIPrefBranchInternal is now gone forever, but it's OK since we were supposed to be using nsIPrefBranch anyway
11:21:06 <tomman> yeeesh, Flashblock continues decaying
11:21:33 <tomman> it fails to block videos (again), and its context menu options now appear even on plain images
11:24:15 <tomman> > Components.classes["@mozilla.org/preferences-service;1"].getService(Components.interfaces.nsIPrefBranch).QueryInterface(Components.interfaces.nsIPrefBranchInternal)
11:24:18 <tomman> oh, this again
11:26:59 <tomman> also, found a broken callback function parameter on the prefs dialog
11:27:30 <tomman> I really need something that can block videos _and only videos_, but Flashblock is bitrotting so fast...
12:44:09 <frg_Away> tomman bug 1388317 and bug 1083458 are on my short list and might break old extensions. I disabled the E4X for each today to check via Bug 1083470. and then later Bug 1388317. With these two in should become more or less stable again. Most of the really obsolete syntax is out then. There are still legacy setters/getters and some shorthand function systax which I hope I/we can keep.
12:45:12 <tomman> nsIPrefBranchInternal is basically the same thing as its parent nsIPrefBranch nowadays, right?
12:45:23 <frg_Away> yes
15:11:11 <tomman> huh, another crash out of the blue
18:05:27 <therube> is FlashGot broken in wg9s builds?
18:05:29 <therube> 2.53.17 Build identifier: 20230523210003
18:05:31 <therube> https://flashgot.net/getit#devel
18:06:39 <therube> haven't had time to update of late, & last build was from 4-20-2023 (where there were no issues with FlashGot)
18:09:11 <therube> Error: TypeError: dms is undefined
18:09:14 <therube> Source File: chrome://flashgot/content/flashgotOverlay.js
18:09:15 <therube> Line: 437
18:09:17 <frg_Away> therube if you run the rc1 build todays removal should not affect it: Removed any "for each()" usage for Nightly
18:09:17 <therube> Error: TypeError: this.DMS is undefined
18:09:19 <therube> Source File: jar:file:///C:/TMP/SEA/flashgot/extensions/%7B19503e42-ca3c-4c27-b1e2-9cdb2170ee34%7D.xpi!/components/flashgotService.js
18:09:21 <therube> Line: 517
18:12:36 <therube> what's that, here, http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/2023/05/2023-05-23-21-00-03-comm-253/ ?
18:13:00 <therube> heh. i'd download it, but i can use FlashGot ;-)
18:16:57 <frg_Away> therube this needs to be changed in flashgotService,js: return this.prefs = this.prefService.getBranch("flashgot.").QueryInterface(CI.nsIPrefBranchInternal);
18:16:58 <therube> nope, that's not working either.
18:17:02 <frg_Away> CI.nsIPrefBranch
18:22:59 <therube> frg_away: OK, that worked.  thank you.
19:47:59 <CaptainTobin> hey frg_Away
19:48:17 <frg_Away> CapTainTobin hi
19:51:33 <CaptainTobin> after I finish coding up my two php software stuffs well the two main ones I plan to modify the source and generic-ize it for anyone to use and then re-customize it for my needs.. Basically, I want to give everyone the tools to create a project at LEAST as successful as UXP ones had been. Would any of it be useful? The two things are post, docs, page git controlled content and the other has the everything for xul (or non-xul)
19:51:33 <CaptainTobin> projects.. including add-ons site functionality etc..
19:53:35 <CaptainTobin> I was planning to primarily parse markdown but also and of course it would be capable of the crappy phoebusCode and the not-html seleneCode bbcode-like crap I created before.. plus regular html content or smarty enhanced content.
19:55:32 <CaptainTobin> if my 2017 era phoebus code can run as inefficiently as it did at PM scale then my much more efficient currentday php should be just fine for yours and my scales
19:56:38 <CaptainTobin> are there any specific features you rely on website wise that might make you consider it or just would just be something I haven't thought of yet because I haven't been running a xul project for 15 years
19:59:15 <frg_Away> We are short on doc and add-ons but as usual even shorter on people actually doing it. So don't think any immediate need.
20:00:02 <CaptainTobin> right but the only space you have for documentation is the old whatever it is that generates the site and theoretically maybe the mozilla wiki lol i doubt seamonkey is very welcome on mdn anymore
20:00:34 <CaptainTobin> also was my info on this project's status THAT much out of date
20:00:57 <CaptainTobin> looks like you guys actually might OWN your own trademarks
20:01:02 <CaptainTobin> and that happened in 2013?
20:01:46 <CaptainTobin> well good
20:01:52 <CaptainTobin> one should own ones own trademarks
20:01:55 <frg_Away> yes owned by the e.V but much later. Already joined then. I think around 2016 or 2018
20:02:18 <CaptainTobin> i am glad
20:02:28 <CaptainTobin> i thought Mozilla still had em
20:02:37 <frg_Away> Mozilla transfered them.
20:02:58 <CaptainTobin> who owns the Gecko trademark is it still verizon or did they transfer it to mozilla
20:03:08 <CaptainTobin> i know it was merely licensed due to netscape
20:03:14 <frg_Away> I have no clue
20:03:33 <CaptainTobin> xul is still a trademark tho unregistered that mozilla is claiming
20:05:02 <CaptainTobin> it's too bad Mozilla didn't formalize and release xul to the community as a mozilla standard just before they merged it with html.. with full current as of 56 documentation.
20:07:20 <frg_Away> not much of it left
20:07:39 <CaptainTobin> realityripple has a partial mirror with a uxp bent up
20:08:09 <CaptainTobin> i have a repo of all the removed documentation from mdn one day it will show up on thereisonlyxul.org starting in reference archive form then active documentation form
20:08:20 <CaptainTobin> it is WHY i registered the domain aside from shilling our own products
20:08:21 <CaptainTobin> lol
20:08:29 <CaptainTobin> well now ALL our products
20:08:34 <CaptainTobin> if they have xul lol
20:08:37 <CaptainTobin> even if i hate them
20:09:18 <CaptainTobin> pfft hate.. man there was a lot of hate in that 100 pounds of angry fat I lost since last year
20:09:27 <CaptainTobin> Angry fat.
20:11:38 <frg_Away> I don't hate them. Mostly lost respect and they are digging their own grave but that is it. In the end just software / code
20:20:06 <CaptainTobin> I am still extremely doubious of your selective rustification
20:22:26 <CaptainTobin> but hey.. everyone seems to think mozscape technology especially xul is doubious so what the fuck do I know.. I know one thing tho.. BinOC is the solution for a failed Paradigm and ALWAYS was.
20:23:47 <CaptainTobin> heh I should integrate the php weave components into the projects site software
20:24:27 <CaptainTobin> may as well it is gonna have accounts, be sql backed, etc
20:39:29 <frg_Away> They should kick rust and put full xul back in but as long as it is backend stuff and no people around capable of replacing and maintaining it I can live with it.
20:39:30 <frg_Away> Will be fun to see where rust is in 10 years. My hunch is the next generation will not understand the current crappy overhyped undocumented code and replace it again.
20:39:52 <frg_Away> Or AI has taken over and we don't need to worry any longer :)
20:55:05 <tomman> "C touched me in a no-no place, then Rust! All! The! Things"
20:55:13 <tomman> or yeah, AI will doom us all
20:55:18 <tomman> hello Skynet~
21:20:51 <CaptainTobin> some variation of Borg/Cybermen is more likely as resistance increases
21:20:56 <CaptainTobin> tomman:
21:21:06 <CaptainTobin> skynet is unlikely
21:21:34 <CaptainTobin> shodan though
21:21:43 <CaptainTobin> i-i-insect
22:38:19 <tomman> https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/05/introducing-the-brand-new-thunderbird-logo/ please, not this crap again
22:39:19 <tomman> now the icon looks like a... blue Firefox
23:06:35 <GrannyGoose> have TB changed the license?
23:06:48 <GrannyGoose> or just the logo
23:33:09 <frg_Away> GrannyGoose logo
23:37:00 <frg_Away> my usual respose to logo redesigns: https://badspot.us/Brown-Ring-of-Quality.html
23:58:01 <tomman> remember when the Firefox logo almost had anime quality?