Welp, binoc website is up but needs more server work.. a lot of server work.. oh well doing it live IS a BinOC trope..

still existence is a nice thing to have

thing is.. I used to do this crap day in and day out.. why has this been so difficult for me.. then again if it wasn't difficult likely wouldn't be impressing several points the universe has DECIDED I should learn.. still it doesn't need to be THIS hard lol

hcsimulator.com/imports/NEUROBLAST_HyperCard-642789DF holy hell, such a toxic cocktail of webshit just to emulate Apple Tech from 1985!

> SyntaxError: invalid identity escape in regular expression

so fancy regex junk

> ReferenceError: customElements is not defined

good ol' Google WebComponents®

> TypeError: window.ShadowRoot is undefined

of course suck comes in pairs

> TypeError: window.visualViewport is undefined

OK, 'tis one is news to me

> FF91

yeah

Timestamp: 5/18/2023 10:41:05

Error: TypeError: window.visualViewport is undefined

Source File: hcsimulator.com/imports/NEUROBLAST_HyperCard-642789DF

Line: 8204

in Mariner

Mariner is what old borealis became

as I am gonna use the Borealis name for something grander

bonus: the support/feedback links to... Discord, of course

the appcore I have hinted aboot

tomman Bug 1357785

tomman: v28 is likely the last of the second generation BinOC designs btw.. First Generation was a Web 1.9 table based layout with transparent PNGs making up effects we can do now in css.. the second generation was basic div based.. the next will likely be a BinOC interpretation of XML serialized html5

frg_Away: love the bug heading:

> Chrome is going to be shipping the Visual Viewport API [1] soon. I looked over the spec again today and I think it makes sense and we should support it as well.

basically "Google shipped it and webdevs are gonna jump onto it on their next git pull framework update"

yes

well I have some plans about that

tomman: stay tuned

franstam: hi

please tell me your plans include forcing webdevs to trade in their Macs at gunpoint for Windows 98 machines

they can have powerpc macs

i like me some g3 bondiblue imac or g4 ilamp don't you know

I even put a bondiblue imac on the BinOC front page as the traditional monitor showing old site screenshot trope

OK, let's force webdevs to forcibly trade in their ARMacs for clamshell PPC iBooks then :)

but intel macs are just crap obsolete laptop parts ductaped onto the back of an overpriced lcd monitor

Let's not force webdevs to do anything and force others to do the same.. Let web tech evolve naturally and THEN formalize

Tobin well I like my old 2012 mac mini. I just don't like macOS or the walled garden new apple hardware any longer.

Tiger was the last good OSX version

I liked 10.14 and then it seemed to go downhill.

I wish haiku was viable

BeOS was cool as fuck

tomman: so that's another emulator that bypasses the CORS issue?

this one wasn't a emulator, but a Hypercard implementation in "web technologies" AKA Chromeisms

0518|16:45:39 <+tomman> please tell me your plans include forcing webdevs to trade in their Macs at gunpoint for Windows 98 machines <-- a change to improve usability? that's unheard of these days! since when should a change make things more usable!? scandalous!

now THAT would be Disruptive™ in the "disruptive" meaning of the word, not in the "Venture Capital" meaning

what's the VC meaning of it?

(I shouldn't have asked that, should I?)

"move fast and break things, because that's the only way to make money these days"

you mean more fast & furious movies?

no, that's Hollywood Accounting

you don't make money with movies, their accountants say