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Rainer_Bielefeld
Hi
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Rainer_Bielefeld
How can import .ics to Lightning Calendar in SeaMonkey?
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Rainer_Bielefeld
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Rainer_Bielefeld
I can do ˋDates and Tas → Importˊ, but nothing happens. Known Bug?
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Rainer_Bielefeld
Tasks
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WG9s
Rainer_Bielefeld: I am trhying to find somone to answer this for you
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Rainer_Bielefeld
WG9s: thx!
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WG9s
our develpers seem to be concentrated in the same timezone so are allworking on real jobs at the same time. i am retired and in a completely different timezone but really working onlhy on an automated nightly build thing also the alcender stuff is kind of outside my wheelhouse.
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Rainer_Bielefeld
Well, it's not an urgent, but a strategic question
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njsg
Rainer_Bielefeld: which version? I'll see if I can reproduce anything similar. What do you have open when you try to import? M&N on mail/news? Calendar view?
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njsg
first try worked, asked which calendar to import into and imported, now this is most likely a (years old, at this point) a calendar file generated by Microsoft Outlook and sent by e-mail (which I extracted from the e-mail back then)
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» njsg is testing with 2.53.17b1pre 20230418210002
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njsg
(amd64 build on Windows NT 6.1)
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Rainer_Bielefeld
I will do a short test with different User Profile, have to leave IRC for a moment ...
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Rainer_Bielefeld
Well, my goal is to import a single date .ics into an Lighning. .ics is on ma HDD. WTR with my installation of DE SeaMonkey 2.53.16 Beta 1 Pre Mozilla/5.0 (NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.16 Build 20221208220001 (newly created User Profile), Default Classic Theme on German WIN10 64bit
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Rainer_Bielefeld
1. Launch SM Calendar
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Rainer_Bielefeld
2. Menu ˋDates and Tasks → Import ...ˊ
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Rainer_Bielefeld
» Expected: Dialog opens, whatever else ... Anything!
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Rainer_Bielefeld
Actual: Nothing happens! 😥
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CaptainTobin
Rainer_Bielefeld: did you check the toolkit error console (assuming it is still in comm)
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CaptainTobin
see what the air-or is?
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CaptainTobin
close down start up open console open mailnews component open lightning clear the console and start the import and watch for crap to pop in
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CaptainTobin
btw i am trying to tell you from memory
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CaptainTobin
and that is memory of the 2.49 state so i may be slightly off
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CaptainTobin
but not JustOff ;)
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Rainer_Bielefeld
I tried Error Console. Results:
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Rainer_Bielefeld
Zeitstempel: 10.05.2023, 16:38:05
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Rainer_Bielefeld
Fehler: TypeError: Services.catMan is undefined
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Rainer_Bielefeld
Quelldatei: chrome://calendar/content/import-export.js
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Rainer_Bielefeld
Zeile: 33
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Rainer_Bielefeld
And:
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CaptainTobin
luckily i know the toollkit error console format
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Rainer_Bielefeld
Zeitstempel: 10.05.2023, 16:38:05
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Rainer_Bielefeld
Fehler: An error occurred executing the calendar_import_command command: [Exception... "[JavaScript Error: "Services.catMan is undefined" {file: "chrome://calendar/content/import-export.js" line: 33}]'[JavaScript Error: "Services.catMan is undefined" {file: "chrome://calendar/content/import-export.js" line: 33}]' when calling method: [nsIController::doCommand]" nsresult: "0x80570021...
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Rainer_Bielefeld
...(NS_ERROR_XPC_JAVASCRIPT_ERROR_WITH_DETAILS)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://global/content/globalOverlay.js :: goDoCommand :: line 84" data: yes]
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CaptainTobin
yeah stop
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Rainer_Bielefeld
Quelldatei: chrome://global/content/globalOverlay.js
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CaptainTobin
you're gonna flood
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Rainer_Bielefeld
Zeile: 86
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CaptainTobin
use pastebin of some sort but yeah i get it.. and that is plenty
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CaptainTobin
it is broken
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CaptainTobin
why i dunno
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CaptainTobin
but it is
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CaptainTobin
so you know more than you did
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CaptainTobin
before it was broken NOW it is broken with a specific cause now all frg and co need to do is find the reason causing it and fix it
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CaptainTobin
cause that is how development works
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CaptainTobin
least for us
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CaptainTobin
lol
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CaptainTobin
as a loose collection of radical mozrejects
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CaptainTobin
right WG9s
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CaptainTobin
if I were to take a wild stab.. either Services.jsm needs defined or something needs added to Services.jsm or frg just fucked up back porting
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CaptainTobin
but that is STRICTLY based on my own experience and the error message only
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CaptainTobin
Rainer_Bielefeld: Thank you though that tiny bit of cursory troubleshooting has boosted my general mood :)
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CaptainTobin
speaking of fucked up backporting maybe I should correct my own before using New Tobin Paradigm-style bs against frg.
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CaptainTobin
A good idea.
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CaptainTobin
Rainer_Bielefeld: when frg shows up I will ping him to check the backlog unless he reads it before I ping him.. so he can .. do something about it lol
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CaptainTobin
speaking of I am getting a SSL_ERROR_RX_MALFORMED_SERVER_HELLO on my navigator for the cc logbot
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CaptainTobin
also the cert has been expired for a week again
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CaptainTobin
unless...
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CaptainTobin
no ..
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CaptainTobin
anyway may wanna fix that or tell me what I am missing
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tomman
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tomman
speaking about terrible ideas
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tomman
"let's replace the slow, bloaty and unsafe JVM with... a slow, bloaty, and possibly unsafe pile of Chromeisms!"
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CaptainTobin
this was the plan from the start dude
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CaptainTobin
I have literally known about this since 2015
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CaptainTobin
I sounded the alarm I did my bit to try and avert it
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tomman
> Our team is always available for any question, you can find us on Discord.
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CaptainTobin
all we can do now is mitigate
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tomman
bonus point for having support only in Dischorse
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CaptainTobin
provide alternatives for as long as that is effectively permitted cause technically it always will be just with ever present roadblocks out to exlude one from continuing.
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njsg
remember when what you needed to do to disable the annoying and bloated things was not to run jvm or the actionscript vm? :-)
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tomman
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tomman
> SyntaxError: import declarations may only appear at top level of a module
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tomman
why am I'm not surprised
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CaptainTobin
yeah disable the npapi plugin .. done.. need it again.. re-enable it.. SHIT even write an extension to do it and restart from a button on the toolbar
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tomman
my policy on Java Applets is this: does your organization still relies on some ancient outdated appliance that uses those? Bring your favorite shotgun!
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tomman
pull that Compaq box out of its misery!
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CaptainTobin
remember when massive browser functionality was JUST a matter of a dll in the right place?
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CaptainTobin
massively extending*
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CaptainTobin
and for us some xul js and css
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CaptainTobin
in a zip file
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CaptainTobin
too
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CaptainTobin
chrome don't have that
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CaptainTobin
and never will
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CaptainTobin
it is technology that empowers
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tomman
well, as Adobe and Sun showed us, placing that magic DLL quickly turned iuto a security nightmare
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hardys
Rainer_Bielefeld: It is working here with SM 2.53.17b1pre from WG9s Build-Identifikator: 20230509210003
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CaptainTobin
from the dumbest end user grandma to the master programmer
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tomman
because noone bothered about securing their junk
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njsg
Rainer_Bielefeld: worked with 2.53.16 (release), can you reproduce with that one? if it's feasible to test it, of course.
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CaptainTobin
yes.. it is a security nightmare.. but by the end we basically figured out plugin security sandboxing and isolation .. and then we killed it and keep applying that shit to other things in the neive hope that will somehow allow unsafe things to be safe when the SOLUTIONS were devised for a very specific purpose and broad extrapolation and overlay make no fucking sense and i been getting that same conclusion for god damned 12
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CaptainTobin
years now
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CaptainTobin
and I am quite over it
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Rainer_Bielefeld
hardys: I will try 2.53.17 until weekend. With a little luck ... And if no I will create a Bug report.
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CaptainTobin
this concept that webapps are the right way, the only way will only result in collapse or domination
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CaptainTobin
if not both
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CaptainTobin
I am working on the kernel of a solution to that as well that would serve all intrests EXCEPT exclusion and destruction
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CaptainTobin
not that I expect anyone to care enough to actually impl but I will at least say I had a vague impression of a plan.
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CaptainTobin
unless they do then facing the wrath of whatwg i might long for the days of "MSFN Hackers" and the pa-lemon
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CaptainTobin
Never know in this day and age if anything you do will be ignored, shat upon, or get yourself killed for persisting..
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CaptainTobin
is that an anticipated progression tomman?
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CaptainTobin
like should I have seen the state of things devolving into that sooner?
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tomman
dude, I just want to ban Silicon Valley from ever coding another piece of software :P
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CaptainTobin
i mean 2015 but also 2008 and 9 here.. tho i didn't understand the factors behind the factors like I did in 2015 let alone today
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CaptainTobin
tomman: California..
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tomman
maybe force all of those Valley dudes (and dudettes) to use Windows 98 again
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tomman
for the rest of their lifes
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CaptainTobin
THAT is one big fat spectrum of problems
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tomman
no Macs, no smartphones, not even connections faster than 1Mbit
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tomman
maybe that way we could end the days of "the web browser as the OS"
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CaptainTobin
or give em a choice.. shape up or piss off and leave the rest of us alone
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CaptainTobin
look all the webapp shit.. FINE okay but not at the exclusion of everything else
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CaptainTobin
but I don't wanna say much more about how I would suggest fixing it
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CaptainTobin
I am saving it ;)
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CaptainTobin
tomman: i sent you a query with a pastebin link
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njsg
Rainer_Bielefeld: can reproduce with 20221208T2200
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IanN_Away
as far as I can see there's no code in SM2.53.16 code that includes Services.catMan
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IanN_Away
njsg: there were potenitally some nightly builds that had patches in but they were backed out months ago
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CaptainTobin
oh lightning as distribution would install in profile .. so maybe that is your issue a lightning mismatch
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CaptainTobin
i forgot seamonkey still did that
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IanN_Away
one of many things in the to-do list is to integrate lightning
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CaptainTobin
SAME
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CaptainTobin
FUCKIN SAME MY FRIEND
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CaptainTobin
IanN_Away: :)
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CaptainTobin
I will likely redesign it into a nuBorealis xul applet and bootstrap that back to Interlink .. OF COURSE if you guys JUST moved the binary xpcom and lib shit to the platform and mangled the UI into an extension that was actually cross-platform you could at LEAST get THAT far reletively easily
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CaptainTobin
that is my next step
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CaptainTobin
feel free to follow along even tho your impl will be different when i do it.
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tomman
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tomman
you so silly Clownflare
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njsg
"malicious bots" yeah right