12:03:44 <tomman> the latest Chromeism of the week: WebGPU™ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35465729
12:04:00 <tomman> WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!?!?!?
12:07:43 <Flexman> hi!
12:08:05 <Flexman> i have a computer where the text in Seamonkey mails is greyed out, any idea what this is?
12:08:22 <Flexman> for me this looks like all is detected as signature but i didn't figure out where to change this
12:08:44 <frg_Away> Flexman macOS?
12:08:56 <Flexman> yes
12:10:06 <frg_Away> I think something crept in with the latest css tree updates there. Saw it  myself but didn't have time yet to check.
12:10:35 <Flexman> ah ok. yes that sounds like an explanation.
12:11:11 <frg_Away> ianN_Away is the guilty party if true :D
12:11:22 <Flexman> that means i'll wait for the next update.
12:11:25 <Flexman> haha :-D
12:11:43 <Flexman> meanwhile let's just blame IanN_Away
12:12:09 <frg_Away> you need a fall guy now and then :D
12:12:20 <IanN_Away> frg_Away is the macOS css checker :P
12:12:27 <frg_Away> We might do a 2.53.16.1
12:13:21 <tomman> is that the IP address of my luggage? :D
12:13:26 <frg_Away> Flexman do you see Bug 1826128
12:14:15 <frg_Away> You won't find "he was a css expert" on my tombstone.
12:14:52 <tomman> come to the dark side
12:14:57 <tomman> we have flexboxes
12:15:22 <tomman> and soon, a Turing-complete language!
12:30:39 <frg_Away> can we have a js-ai api?
12:34:12 <tomman> sure, it's Coming Soon™
12:34:53 <tomman> actually, that's why webshats are excited over WebGPU, since it opens a big fat wide door to ML on your GPU
12:35:39 <tomman> soon we will have websites that require dual RTX4090Ti's just to work!
12:36:05 <frg_Away> well webGL is halfway stable so it was time to reinvent the wheel.
12:37:20 <tomman> also WebGL was only aimed at videogames and fancy demo/portfolio pages
12:37:41 <tomman> the real money is on WebGPU, which basically advertises full access to your GPU power
12:38:19 <frg_Away> We need webcoin!
12:38:26 <tomman> ironically this comes up when cryptomining on GPUs is getting out of fashion
14:15:58 <xuochi> I am kind of wondering why there aren't binaries of seamonkey available for anything other than x86. I am going to try compiling for RISC-V in the near future, and I will document the process for others wishing for some pain and agony.
14:21:02 <frg_Away> xuochi well it is a niche of a niche.  I am putting needed stuff in when I find it but mostly untested. Same for arm but this one should work.
15:02:06 <therube> https://nsaneforums.com/news/software-news/microsoft-fixes-5-year-old-windows-defender-bug-that-affected-firefoxs-performance-r14341/
15:15:19 <therube> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1441918#c82
15:17:36 <tomman> ah, I thought antimalware software was actual malware anyway :D
15:18:22 <tomman> Defender (formerly Security Essentials) has always been a CPU hog (especially in the last 5 years), like nearly AV software ever
15:23:05 <frg_Away> it is still the best of the worst
15:24:36 <tomman> it's not Avast, at least
15:59:58 <therube> this is the A/V i used last, https://archive.org/details/fprot_dos_316f
16:00:00 <therube> & oddly, though now i don't remember just what it meant, i had a note on a archived version of defender:
16:00:01 <therube> WindowsDefender_1593 (70 fprot slowdown on del).msi
16:06:02 <tomman> I can remember how both Panda and Avast went from "install it and forget it" to "actual malware is LESS harmful!"
18:26:48 <tomman> huh, a crash
18:29:24 <tomman> GAH! It's a Discord widget that it's gone amok!
18:35:13 <tomman> ...yeah, now I get what happened
18:35:58 <tomman> Danbooru is down for server issues, and their "we're down" page contains exactly the two widgets you can see here: https://danbooru.donmai.us/
18:36:22 <tomman> a Twitter widget, and... a fucking Discord widget that reloads over and over while causing my CPU to suffer in pain
18:36:56 <tomman> my browser crashed for no reason, and when it restarted... all my ~25ish Danbooru tabs reloaded, to that "Danbooru is down" status page
18:37:06 <tomman> ...each of them loading the same two widgets
18:37:13 <tomman> ...including the abusive Discord widget!
18:37:24 <tomman> took me a good while to copy URLs, and kill each tab
18:37:28 <tomman> GAH DISCORD!
18:37:43 <tomman> (about:performance was red red RED HOT RED)
18:38:13 <tomman> CPU monitoring showed high CPU load on both cores, and RAM usage nearing ~4GB
18:38:29 <tomman> ...why kids love that abomination called "Discord" so hard!?
18:40:14 <tomman> ...guess it's time to add Discord to my adblocker lists, if only for safety
18:40:52 <tomman> <iframe src="https://discordapp.com/widget?id=310432830138089472&theme=dark" width="350" height="500" allowtransparency="true" frameborder="0"></iframe>
18:40:58 <tomman> the source of this unpleasantness
18:41:07 <tomman> adding discordapp.com to my DNS blacklists, NOW
18:58:27 <tomman> ah, it's Danbooru that reloads the page every 10 seconds, causing both heavy widgets to reload, and the Discord one is a bloaty pig
18:58:40 <tomman> Anyway, I'm not tripping this landmine anymore - just blocked Discord forever
19:18:49 <roosterphant> yo guys
19:19:06 <roosterphant> does anyone here use some kind of user css addon, like stylish/stylem etc
19:19:38 <roosterphant> i have stylem but i just realized that at some point in the past it broke and now im unable to create new rules