01:14:35 <WG9s> !seen stefano
01:22:34 <CaptainTobin> WG9s: do we have a the_bot?
01:22:45 <CaptainTobin> !help
01:22:48 <CaptainTobin> !seem
01:22:50 <CaptainTobin> !seen
01:23:28 <CaptainTobin> assuming no one saved it.. the_bot really hates c++ and knows me as a Mozilla Agitator
01:23:35 <CaptainTobin> the good ol days...
15:44:19 <CaptainTobin> HI frg_Away
15:44:31 <CaptainTobin> does this out of context illistration offend you? http://personal.mattatobin.com/image/capture/34f1edf0-0e93-4a4a-9234-e453aa770f52.jpg
15:45:16 <CaptainTobin> and yes.. all UX designers should use mspaint
15:45:23 <CaptainTobin> it's only logical
15:46:30 <CaptainTobin> btw, that stop glyph .. the hexagon.. don't call it a hexagon.. it identifes as n octagon
15:47:27 <CaptainTobin> so don't misgender it
15:48:46 <frg_Away> CaptainTobin It offends me because I like tabs under the location bar :)
15:59:18 <njsg> UX designers should use TeX! :-)
16:45:35 <CaptainTobin> frg_Away: if the window is merely an applet shell and it loads disperate interfaces in a tabbed model does tabs on bottom make sense?
16:46:16 <CaptainTobin> it would be like adding tabbed browsing to IE 4 and switching back and forth between windows and internet explorer modes
16:46:21 <CaptainTobin> cool but disconnected
16:46:58 <CaptainTobin> the tabs disconnect the applet from its toolbox in that configuration
16:47:47 <CaptainTobin> and in my impl that would be quite infeasable to pull off
17:00:42 <frg_Away> CaptainTobin I always liked to have tabs on top of the content. Way easier to spot. Just a personal preference. Do a poll you will have a 100 different opinions :)
17:03:45 <IanN_Away> and that's if you ask less then 100 people
17:03:54 <CaptainTobin> well frg_Away think of it this way.. the applet shell is a window manager, the tab bar is a taskbar, and tab content is a window with no tabbed browsing of its own
17:05:23 <CaptainTobin> basically trying to be what mailtabs in concept is TRYING to be but isn't actually implimented that way
17:05:57 <CaptainTobin> the closest existing example i can say is thunderbird with lightning
17:07:19 <CaptainTobin> but i want that for everything on the same level .. applets and app-like extensions alike .. sort of like a prepped canvas and a selection of premixed colors but you don't have to even grab them if you don't want em.. but you do need the canvas.
17:07:57 <CaptainTobin> all based on nsMozilla technology
17:08:06 <CaptainTobin> eys i am sick of saying Classical or Modern Mozilla..
17:08:12 <CaptainTobin> nsMozilla and Mozilla
17:08:32 <CaptainTobin> the departer point is the comm-split and firefox 3.5
17:09:42 <CaptainTobin> unless you wanna go with oldzilla and newzilla .. that might be better cause it will irk those who don't want -illa suffixes
17:09:57 <CaptainTobin> so all that based on oldzilla tech
17:10:01 <CaptainTobin> it will be glorious
17:10:48 <njsg> as for elements like the tab bar not exactly aligning between tab-specific and global content, wouldn't that in a way also compare to macOS's top menu?
17:11:01 <njsg> s@aligning@being@ perhaps
17:21:12 <CaptainTobin> maybe more classic macos cause that had the task switcher
17:21:13 <CaptainTobin> but ye
20:51:49 <CaptainTobin> has anyone ever tried attaching an xml stylesheet to an nsRDF file?
21:48:04 <Megaweapon> missing all my greasemonkey userscripts after updating to 2.53.15
22:42:08 <Megaweapon> the tooltip shows the correct number of scripts when I hover the gm toolbar icon and it even seems to display them for a split second in Add-ons Manager, but they aren't being run.  tried uninstalling/reinstalling gm.
23:10:35 <Megaweapon> error console output: https://hastebin.com/bohemecopa.pl