01:57:50 WG9s: I have received an email saying "The linux64 64-bit 2.53 SeaMonkey build completed at Tue Jan 17 18:23:22 EST 2023." but when I refresh the page http://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/ the "Last modified" dates are 2023-01-16 22:00 (i.e. about one day older than what the notification says it ought to be). Anything wrong? 01:58:50 i was redoing builds and forgot to change things back to normal before build time so it redid yesterdays build 01:58:54 so a mistake 01:59:36 on my part 01:59:42 WG9s: ah, so no harm done if I keep yesterday's build running. Thanks. 02:00:01 yes what is building is identical to yesterday 08:17:45 0117|22:40:56 <+tomman> "the quest for a dumber phone" should start with the quest for a dumber website <-- agreed... what the []... 08:18:24 not javascript-related, for it fails to show even without javascript (yes, maybe it's designed so that javascript is intended to make it visible, but that doesn't make it any less of a bad design) 23:21:03 ugh, Wikipedia 23:21:10 they finally succumbed to the whitespace pandemic 23:21:59 but some pages still render using the classic layout 23:22:01 what gives? 23:23:52 https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2023/01/18/wikipedia-gets-a-fresh-new-look-first-desktop-update-in-a-decade-puts-usability-at-the-forefront/ 23:23:57 "Wikipedia Gets a Fresh New Look: First Desktop Update in a Decade Puts Usability at the Forefront" 23:24:00 NO, YOU DON'T 23:24:26 what you've done is turned yet another fine website (that already had a OK cellphone version) into a Cellphones First And Only™ website! 23:36:21 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34431533 oh, I can haz sanity again? 23:37:11 turns that adding "?useskin=vector" to any wiki URL will restore the last sane design before their current vomit. THERE IS HOPE ON MANKIND!