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uh?

... wait, it does render with javascript? not a blank page!?

njsg: it renders, but as soon as it detect that your browser does not fit The Vision™, it will self-sabotage itself by killing scrolling and clickable links

supposedly it renders without JS, but only if your UA is from a bot

in Ye Olde Times there was a rumor that visiting Dischorse with a Googlebot UA would even unlock pagination!

YESS!!! YESS!!! I MANAGED TO SOLVE THE ENDLESS ISSUES REGARDING MAIL & NEWSGROUPS!!!!!

my dumb self discovered i had to use OAuth2 and not the normal password as an authentication method

welcome to the Googlenet

yeah i used gmail

thank god finally

I ended creating an app-specific pass for Gmail instead

but that required me to enable 2FA auth

it's what i had too until now, but that was tremendous

and rely on the weaksauce mobile networks of my country since I refuse to install authenticator apps

i had to put that password everytime i wanted to use SM mail and it got severely annoying after a while

but finally i solved it!!!!!!!!!

i'm so happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

awesome~

whec.com/national-world/district-at…s-into-apple-store-in-massachusetts this site is cute

block the crapware JS bits (using an adblocker or DNS blocks) and the site won't render the actual contents

"Failed to successfully load all aggregators. Aborting..."

for once this is not SeaMonkey's fault, or even a site wanting Chromeisms, as it fails also on FF91ESR

normally I would get a "would you please disable your adblocker pretty please?" warning, or a nasty stackdump because of some unsupported Chromeism

Instead...

Failed to successfully load all aggregators. Aborting...

ChunkLoadError: Loading chunk 552 failed.

(error: js-agent.newrelic.com/552.2d6a2503-1220.js)

(js-agent.newrelic.com is blocked by my DNS blocklists, and it's a common crapware found on many websites out there)

jesus why don't web developers test/make their site to work on Gecko??!?!?!?

i don't care the majority of the marketplace is with Blink they have to realize a minority withe Gecko exists!

and we get left out like this

this is so annoying

it's more like, why do some insist on only supporting very specific browsers or engines

this is oh so much against what the web should and what it was meant to be

what about the open web?

we should be seeing a protocol and markup language where your handheld candybar GSM radio endpoint could show page content, even if in a different fashion from a game console hooked up to a PAL CRT TV

*open*

**open**

njsg: yeah i agree

instead we have "you're not chrome/chromium/blink, fuck off", we have "by design you can't parse the content, it's rendered/fetched/... by scripts", and the like

you're right, i don't like the direction most internet companies are taking...

i want to be in an open future, not a closed one...

this gets to that extreme where somebody here pointed out some seemed (on ycombinator news?) to be even unaware that you could serve content on html over http...

there's both people actively making their tools and systems selective, and people who end up contributing to that because they're not aware of the damage they're doing

and the clueless part? well, it *is* present in some places. Cloudflare seemed to have trouble figuring out they were requiring a header most browsers probably don't include in requests...

neko_the_gamer: one thing is not testing, the other is the way some react to anyone daring to use anything but ${BROWSER_THEY_USE}

njsg: i mean that's not really the problem since honestly browsers are irrelevant, the rendering engine is most important thought since it's what occupies to render the websites properly!

in fact i hate chrome fanboys

or google fanboys in general

and same for girls too

neko_the_gamer: with an app password, you should be able to get M&N to remember it, although you'll need to enter it twice, one for incoming server, another for outgoing server.

tomman: is that supposed to have a video? I only get two paragraphs (the whec.com (NBC? - at least features the peacock) link)

njsg: i remember actually i had to put (and make) two app passwords for the two email accounts i wanted to use

oh damnit i missed the status meeting on the 20th

is there gonna be a new one?