speaking of redirecting, I wonder, do with those extensions redirection occur faster than with some simple userscript (for greasemonkey or similar)?

cq

I am using Lubuntu, and I do not know how to add a SeaMonkey launcher to my programs menu

any help/suggs would be greatly appreciated, thanks

amishrobots: currently I'd expect this to revolve around .desktop ("desktop entry"?) files

amishrobots: how did you install/obtain SeaMonkey?

if it was not via the package manager, it might be just a matter of dropping a .desktop file in the appropriate location, after making sure the paths are correct

um,, I went to the website, and downloaded the files to my downloads folder

basically to run seamonkey, i go to the seamonkey folder in my downloads folder, and click on the gear shaped "seamonkey" icon

so I should look for a .desktop file... let me look

there should be more than one, at least one for the browser and one for mail&news

but you probably need to adjust the paths in these files so that they point to where seamonkey is

hmm

this might be how to do it (I don't have much experience with these XDG desktop entries) wiki.archlinux.org/title/desktop_entries#Installation

okay, I*m gonna ask a stupid question, but where do I find .local ?

amishrobots: under $HOME, might exist already, if not it just needs to be created, but probably exists already

hold on i think i found it

under usr

that's probably /usr/local/, no period

I've got /usr/local/share

only 4 folders there: ca-certificates, fonts, man, sgml

don't feel like i'm in the right place

no, this .local would be under your user directory

bugzilla.mozilla.org/1274798#c7 and the following comment have some information about this from buc

so,,,, would prehaps be under "amishrobots" ? (my username)

(the desktop file install paths in comment 7 are for a system-wide install, though)

amishrobots: usually, nowadays, under GNU/Linux, I'd expect your $HOME to be /home/amishrobots/

I should mention that I am rather drunk, so will likely experience "PEBCAKB" errors

I'd seriously suggest postponing this a bit then, just in case you make some mistake typing a command

roger that

oh wait

think I found it with CTRL H

I *think* it'd go like this 1) you figure out where do you want SeaMonkey to be (say, perhaps not under ~/Downloads, but somewhere else under ~?)

wish I could show screenshots here

2) you put the path in these files from bug 1274798 (I think it has some desktop entries linked or attached?)

I've exposed the hidden files in amishrobots, and found .local

3) you run the utility to install these desktop entries and 4) you run the utility to update the desktop menu

ok so... I am currently in /home/amishrobots/.local/share, I see a folder for Konqueror here, and a few (but certainly not all) other progs

(images on IRC are usually shared by linking - this means you'd have to upload it somewhere first, though)

what about /home/amishrobots/.local/share/applications?

so,, if I drag and drop seamonkey (or maybe just copypaste?) prehaps it will show up like I want?

no, there you need an XDG desktop entry file

yeah, I do have an imgur acct, but that would be a bit of work

and it has to point to where the seamonkey executable is, or the executable has to be in $PATH

yeah, now that I look through me progs list I see that konqueror isn't showing up ,,

this sounds like you could use these files without modifications if you move the seamonkey folder to be /home/amishrobots/seamonkey/: bugzilla.mozilla.org/1274798#c9

amishrobots: the directory for the menu would be /home/amishrobots/.local/share/applications, so if konkeror is /home/amishrobots/.local/share/konkeror, that'd probably not be related

well, heck let me try that

let me restart and come back

well, that didn't make much difference; not that I am surprised

what did you do precisely?

I copied the entire Seamonkey folder from my Downloads folder, and pasted it into my "amishrobots" folder, then restarted my puter

then try getting the file from bugzilla.mozilla.org/1274798#c9 and expanding it under $HOME, that should put icons and desktop entries where they should be. not that I've tried it, but that sounds like it would work and the only thing missing would be running the command to update the menu

end result: saves me one step in getting to the program, certainly does not put it in my "start" menu, but hey at least it is one step easier

what you've moved were the SeaMonkey program files, you still need something more to have desktop entries

if you want to try something and don't mind setting SeaMonkey as the default for web and mail (using the buttons in the Advanced pane in Edit->Preferences), try doing that, as it will possibly create desktop entries (but maybe without icons?) and perhaps these show up in the menu (but that's something I haven't tested either)

I don't mind trying that, figure I can always switch it back thru firefox

no idea if that requires separately running the command to update the desktop menu or not - but perhaps a restart works. You can see if the seamonkey entries are created by looking at /home/amishrobots/.local/share/applications, there should be files with seamonkey in the name

(note that the comma is not part of the directory name, so: /home/amishrobots/.local/share/applications

hmm, I think mostly I need to look at all this when I am sober. meanwhile though, my main reason for using seamonkey at this point is that I can browse FTP sites with it

and I have to ask,,, why the heck am I no longer able to broswe an FTP site using firefox or chrome?

probably secutiry reasons

yeah, about the menu entry, no hurry; if you can't stay connected here, this is logged at ircbot.comm-central.org:8080/seamonkey/20221118 ; meanwhile maybe somebody who has more experience with desktop entries will offer better advice than mine

Yeah, that's what I thought. Thing is that there is a specific FTP server, run by a friend of mine, which holds a wealth of video content, and being able to scroll through it, or use CTRL+F to search it was really handy

perhaps that and "it's oooooold" or "people aren't using it as much as before"

ok I bookmarked that for later

but in this arena all of these might be just excuses to remove the code

I remember back in the day when I basically used Seamonkey primarily because it had the star trek Lcars skin

yeah it seems like progress eventually becomes an excuse to remove actually useful functionality

like in the golden days of the computer age, it was primarily "nerds" using the Internets; folks who actually wanted control over their own software. Now its primarily consumers, who favor features over control

and I'm stuck somewhere in the middle

but yeah right now I am drunk and just wanna watch some stuff before I go to bed. So gonna browse my favourite pirate server for something decent , ttyl

glad to see IRC still exists

paste.debian.net/1261113 my notes on how to integrate SeaMonkey with Debian

the .desktop launcher bit should be distro-agnostic, tho.

animenewsnetwork.com/news/2022-11-1…tions-for-unethical-content/.191953 speaking of Japan...

...it seems Visa/MasterCard discovered tentacle rape drawings and now want to impose Western morals over fiction works

no, "crypto" doesn't fix this!

ooops, wrong channel~

what good are revenues if your product sucks

oh yeah, that's right, it keeps the big dogs pockets full. well, good for them.

Status meeting notes updated: wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-10-30

Late again. Sorry.

therube As stated there: Still highly dependent on Google

polyfill is mentioned. probably should be replaced with palefill (as poly is out of date).