01:57:10 <shib> Seamonkey has stopped downloading emails
01:58:38 <tomman> shib: where exactly? Are you using GMail or some other email provider=
02:06:14 <shib> I am using Gmail pop the last message downloaded was at 4:11 a.m.  Although gmail shows lots of new email none has downloaded.
02:10:36 <shib> The only message was that there were no new messages on server.
02:22:43 <franstam> wow i love any article that shits all over chromisms
02:22:47 <franstam> thanks guys
02:24:54 <franstam> but none of my friends ever listen. they just want things to "just work"™
08:45:07 <njsg> that's fun, sometimes that's precisely why I dislike stuff like chromeisms and perhaps even javascript in general
08:46:04 <njsg> seriously, it sometimes is the case that using these things is less "just works" and has to involve more work than if it were more accepting of other browsers
08:47:18 <njsg> shib's gone, but: is this the first time, or has this happened before? what kind of login method?
08:48:17 <njsg> ah wait, POP, not IMAP: ok, it just acts like if there were no messages to download?
08:48:48 <njsg> could always be something on google's side, sigh...
08:49:03 <njsg> (read: possibly harder to debug)
18:11:30 <njsg> re: the newsgroup post on Atlassian Confluence, was that Atlassian's "wiki"?
18:12:39 <njsg> oh yes, might be, it seems apache.org has one instance https://cwiki.apache.org/