tomman: have you noticed that except for Microsoft.. everything in the 90s computer ui wise had this lavendar purple dominating color scheme

including netscape 4's iconset

personally I'd like to trace over the entire netscape 4 icon set but give it that acrylic shine effect i like to it

with gradients except grey or light blue instead of lavendar town

at LEAST 64x64 raster

what, and not paying an overpriced art school dropout for monochrome abstract SVGs in dark mode? :D

i'd stick with the icons i been replacing the default theme with if given that choice

it is just i don't HAVE one stylistically consistant theme

my stylistic preference is obvious

seeing as color and gradients are coming back stylistically again.. pretty soon acryic shine will be back with pseudo-realistic icons.. tho we WILL have to go through the XP icon cycle

windows 8 had windows 2/3 icons.. windows 10 had windows 95 complexity.. windows 11 has win2k level of complexity just without the dithering and the artistic soul to pull it off.. windows 12 will likely have icons that is a higher deff xp style THEN windows 13 will have vista icons again more or less same aesthetic different glyph and like 24k resolution cause we can now cheaply generate raster effects of any size somehow.. and windows 13 being the

theoretical target for vista aesthetic returning is just perfect

tomman

I just want the return of 3D titlebars and window borders on Windows

or even better, Make Aero Great Again™

ok you do know that even if it isn't translucent it is still 3d

surface

that is how dwm works

then Windows 8 happened and the decided Windows 3.1 was hip again

then Windows 10 happened and window borders were passé

then Windows 11 happened and I'm too poor for buying a Mac so let's ROUNDED CORNERS YAY

I am kinda over the translucent glass effect but i am sure it will crop up here and there web design wise

the 4 px window borders are STILL THERE AT THAT WIDTH just invisable you only get the most inner px rendered for the accent line

that is HARD CODED into dwm and they ain't changed it

they just made the all the outer pixels transparent

but hovering it behaves as a window border wise on 7

tomman: you WILL notice however on my post-aero inspired default skin used primarily by the special component that I do indeed have a window border that isn't just 1px tho the window isn't resizable.. NOT YET ANYWAY .. ONE DAY

and my caption text is bold and has a drop shadow

at least on Linux we get the freedom to bring our own window borders, but the GNOMErs are hellbent on killing that because "please do not theme our apps™"

and the height is slimmer than a standard windows 10 window more akin to aero height

the freedom of linux to have everything customizable be fucked beyond usefulness and then change the format half a dozen times so nothing old works and nothing new is worth bothering with

sorry tomman no

do you know how many metacity themes there are?

how perfect they are and how they don't act right ever since marco was ported to gtk3

once again, UI/UX sabotage is, to steal a phrase from JWZ, Official GNOME Policy™

and even IF you have a good window manager providing frames perfectly.. with all the GTK3 horseshit getting UI controls that look good vs gtk2 ones is impossible.. and some THINGS aren't even possible and half the apps are using that custom client titlebar toolbar address bar commandbar shit

i say write a window manager and use mozilla code for the rest.. classical of course

xul desktop environment

which can also be a windows shell

deck-24abcd.netlify.app your daily waste of Chromeisms

supposed to get shiny Pokemon cards using only CSS, instead got dynamic JS imports

every time Hackernews post a fancy website doing stupid things, I can rest assured that it won't work on anything but Chrome and (hopefully) latest Firefox

on the flip side, they're often broken on Safari and this pisses the pro-Apple Hackernews fandom

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33363331 oh, it works in Safari... but laggy :D

oh, it's SvelteJS

29ºC after a cold boot for that ol' Fujitsu

watch how it goes up to 50ºC just by reading my email

oh, wrong channel~

SyntaxError: expected expression, got keyword 'import' oh that pokemon link on HN

franstam: yup, those are dynamic imports

i like rasz2's comment

For majority of users (chrome) this is a detriment. Google really screwed up GPU Accelerated CSS Transitions. Open taskbar and look for yourself. Moving those cards around takes >10% of my old GPU (~1050) but 100% of one CPU core (3.4GHz Haswell). This is the most basic possible single quad texture being tilted around and Chrome eats whole CPU core!

seriously

well after I get the codebase all updated i will start my esr52 stock js engine retrofit research project

o7 CaptainTobin

franstam: so it means that a 4090Ti will perform like a i740 on that site?

color me shocked :D

still if i ever were to use a different js engine it would HAVE to meet or exceed what the current one is capable of

IF you do it one version at a time it SHOULD be manageable

like i betcha i can load up likely 54 with only a few build system changes

the PROBLEM is that there are some portions that are dependant on uxp specific alterations

that is why i want to use stock mozilla codebases as the PoC

if i can do it then doing it specifically for the target codebases will also be possible just more difficult

luckily we DO have history for the js engine going back to when I created the UXP repo

of course I am gonna run into issues not being a cpp dev of any worth

surprised i been able to do what I have managed thus far cpp wise and it ain't much

still.. would be interesting to see how far I get in that endevor

theregister.com/2022/10/27/the_gnome_project_is_closing FUCK

GNOME, Dischorse, it's a match made in hell!

wait, their excuse is Python2!?

"The new platform offers way more features than Mailman, including gamification which newer generations, in general, appreciate,"

yeah, because newer generations don't even use computers anymore, much less GNOME

eugh, another project using Dicksauce as their "support platform", might as well suggest moving their bugtracker there? :D

...well, could have been worse, they could have switched to Discord :O

wait what

tomman:

OH mailing lists

clickbait url

my irc webchat is python 2

the codebase requires python 2

oh, just noticed the URL

i think i need to add a way to use tauthon and continue ripping out any python code i don't need so there is less to eventually port to py3 or change to something else

guys, spare the Dom Perignon, we aren't celebrating tonight

tomman: do you know one reason I love DOMi? I can just shift rightclick and delete just about any element if it is pissing me off

gamification in user support and communication is a *feature*?

well, right, this is GNOME.

tomman: aren't they already using gitlab? so the bugtracker part has been screwed already

s@using gitlab@& for bug reports@

tomman: has it occured to you that we had no need for a DARK MODE in anything until we started adding a bunch of stark whitespace to everything

chicago grey is NOT that bright lol

even win2k grey isn't

aero gray is on the line

"dark mode" wasn't even a thing when we switched from MS-DOS white-on-black consoles to 800x600 Windows 95 gray windows densely packed with information

or even QVGA cellphones

now white text on a specially designed ux that was a thing but not DARK MODE

that is why my site doesn't HAVE a dark mode

I am simply designing light on dark now and it is full of style