news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33228891 OMG, the pile of stupid webtech is overflowing!

"I didn't read the article (I know, I know), but I think it would be really cool to get to run other languages in the frontend. Javascript just plain sucks. Having something like Kotlin or golang (in a reduced form) would be really neat and could professionalize the frontend even more. I think the frontend is always a bit wild west, compared to most backend implementations. That's not only...

...due to more testing but also stronger language guarantees."

but dude, you CAN do that...

...just make a NATIVE application!

TypeError: e.getRootNode is not a function

yup i dont know how that works sorry broken

also what the absolute F is that page doing anyways

why does it need to be so convulted just to display a dumb message?

i am not sure why something not being a function is a type error

what logic is that

no idea

if only we could go back to basic html pages would be nice thanks

define basic html?

we just need to get rid of js frameworks

those are the problem

sure some utils maybe a specific lib or two fine but this js framework shit has gone way past way too far

it went way too far in 2014

and we all have responsibility for not being able to stop it

i dont know what the bloated mess that discord and all those fancy web stuff use

those need to stop

ugh, Discord

the only time I tried using it it nearly melted down my SeaMonkey after loading screens full of memes

apparently kids LOVE that garbage, and some even PAY for whatever the hell is "Nitro"

sometimes some pages u cant even leave the page open active on ur pc. u need to open it, read quickly b4 and close the tab b4 ur pc melts down

even worse: many FOSS projects have adopted Discord as their main support/devel channel!

what happened to github? the abomindation?

needs a polyfill to acces?

I've even seen projects that despite having a GiggityHub/Lab for source/releases, they REFUSE to take bug reports over there

instead, "join our Discord server"

why?

weirdos

that happens mainly with videogame-related projects

but increasingly it's spreading to non-videogame-related FOSS

and of course, the nanosecond you dare using a 3rd-party client (that hasn't yet been blocked), your account WILL get blocked

i heard that discord blocks 3rd party clients like u said

so it's their webapp abomination, their Electron webapp abomination, or nothing

horror stories on reddit <-- anohter abomdination

reddit used to be so good until it became a bloated mess

If your account gets blocked even if you revert to the official abomination of client, well... pray

if u manage to contact their support u can try to unblocked

Unless you get famous/trending on Twitter or Hackernews (where some engineer from Discord will take your "case"), you're out

why does an engineer on discord need to take ur case?

In fact, if you get blocked by Google and friends, your only recourse for help these days is getting a frontpage thread at Hackernews

anyone should be able to "unblock "

no, they won't

im saying technically they should. but they wouldnt

technically it's just a couple clicks or a simple UPDATE sentence

how hard is it to get in touch with a live person in support these days

but their MO is "lolno, you won't be getting this account back, EVER!"

Very hard!

even my govt apps are cpu hogs and nobody even wants to acknowledge the problem

buy a new phone!

oh, the Discourse Way of Troubleshooting™: buy a new cellphone, preferably from Apple

yes

u know it

anything else gets in the way of The Vision™

and don't even DARE changing the default web browser!

hahahaahahahahahahaah

(say: install Firefox on Android)

otherwise you forfeit any kind of support

and Jeff Atwood is free to phoneshame you!

"doctor, it hurts when I hit myself"

i installed duckduckgo browser

oops

it's like when HP tried to void your warranty if you wiped Windows and installed Linux

although that turned out to be extremely illegal and HP lost the case

need to check who Jeff Atwood is

sorry

...or when Dell tried to convince people that VLC blew up speakers, instead of their laptops having terrible speakers

franstam: Jeff Atwood is the creator of Discourse, also the author of the kinda popular blog "Coding Horror"

in other words: an asshole that loves Apple toys and the latest Chromeisms that haven't even left draft status yet!

He co-founded the computer programming question-and-answer website Stack Overflow and co-founded Stack Exchange'

AKA "Gamification-as-a-Service"

although Stack Exchange is actually useful at times

weird enough, Stack Exchange hasn't committed to the League of Chromeisms

but then Atwood left Stack Exchange years ago to fully dedicate to Dischorse, er, Dicksores, er, Discourse

yes

thanks

the only messageboard solution that actively sabotages users of non-mainstream browsers

where did u get that

just like my phone company technicians sabotage my phone line so I have to pay ransom!

ouch

"could professionalize the frontend even more"

not sure if real comment or buzzword bing

calling wild west to the idea of having only one language while proposing more languages get added...