blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-securit…our-phone-number-with-firefox-relay FFS MOZILLA!!!

key who is running the comm-central ircbot

this was mentioned re: github & polyfill, github.com/martok/palefill

don't know if it is "better" then JustOff's version, but worth a shot if something doesn't work.

funny, of course, that a github related extension is available on... github, which you might not be able to get - cause it is on... github ;-)

therube: JustOff's addon is dead

Palefill is the new hotness

there is a direct link on the dev homepage: martok.github.io/palefill

also relevant: martok/palefill #47

using JustOff's, today, i seem to need a page refresh to get things to show.

haven't tried to diagnose, as i just noticed it. i'll probably, at some point, throw in martok's....

JustOff's has been broken for me for weeks, it seems development upstream has largely ceased

fortunately Palefill builds over JustOff's addon, and its approach of a rules list is more flexible (but unfortunately the ruleset is not editable user-side; you have to hack the XPI every time you want to add a new site)

of course the true solution would be nuking webdevs and starting over from scratch, but sadly that ship has sailed and Holy Apple have decreed that you gotta rewrite every app ever every 3 years or less

using the latest bleeding edge Chromeisms, of course

yes agreed

"it creates work for webdevs" so they have food to feed their families?

"Progress" they say

frg_Away: who runs the logbot-cc service?

NewTobinParadigm hardys i think

and have they considered retrofitting mozirc logs from the backups and adding select freenode ones like this one's also i wonder if he'd be willing to connect it to my server cause I really miss having it

can you ping him for me and ask and possibly get the source link to the current version so i can run my own if not

maybe do the selected restoration my self as well as connect to BinOC-IRC and libera maintain my own historical record

might be better.. a lot of people still hate me and having my viewpoint on a service like that might not be wise

for y'all

anyway hi frg_Away

what's up

HEY you remember Firefox 1's prefwindow impl?

the modified incarnation of the xpfe preferences

NewTobinParadigm hi too. He reads the logs and pops up now and then. So should be covered. I think he wanted to add the older logs including mozilla irc to it.

namely that in place of the tree are the buttonbox and buttons that eventually went osx control panel like

I never used Firefox or Thunderbird. First Netscape under OS/2 and then straight to SeaMonkey there and then to Windows. I always found the Firefox ui second rate. Now its fourth rate :)

well i should run my own service anyway for the logs of #palemoon (on moznet and freenode) and #binaryoutcast on freenode .. as you MAY have noticed with my tendancy to whiteboard nearly everything and so my own explainations and plans become reference materal

well there WAS one control I don't recall being in XPFE used in the prefwindow namely the expander widget

most notabe example i cna think of if you aren't familar is the control used in the windows control panel that shows and hides whole sections like network sharing or the exploer windows firewall page

there it is frg_Away

I want to expand our prefwindow to support the buttonbox as a option.. and those expanders are the PERFFECT solution for a prefpane situation where you have a tiny selection of stuff per a thing

looks like an early tree view with a sidbar. I think the later version was/is just vertical and tabs.

also means I can restore the minimum prefwindow height back to the netscape value

frg_Away: avairy buttonbox is implimented with checkboxes

actually

at least if I recall

THIS one was done with buttons in a vbox

tho this was before prefwindow was a binding

other option is to try and hack the FUCK out of the tree control to LOOK like a buttonbox

ah no frg_Away

radio group is how the buttonbox is done since that design became a core element in the avairy toolkit

I am also going to add the ability for the binding to use an iframe instead of appending to a panel element yeah it may sound backwards cause that is what xpfe did.. but no there are a few situations where it can be useful.. like when you wanna fake a window into a prefpane obstensively as a temporary messure until a proper prefpane can be written

that is what I did for about:config

but i want to write a proper pref-config.xul

frg_Away: that expander binding is still in the toolkit but it isn't used anywhere and i honestly dunno why

probably someone forgot to remove it

i dunno if it is still there past quantum tho

but likely was kept until at least then because add-ons

nope.. i think you are right someone forgot to remove it..

it was NOT rewritten back to js

in 102

likely cause html has a similar capablity without much work

which is fine for html or their hxulml

but i want a proper control

xhtuml

i mean that IS what chrome and priv content IS with its xul namespaced tags in html

extensable hypertext user markup language

user interface*

THIS SON OF A BITCH bugzilla.mozilla.org/user_profile?id=user_profile.html&user_id=34346

I need to talk to this absolutely amazing xbl wizard

wait.. mnyromyr

YEAH OF COURSE

no wonder

that mother fucker is a legend

He was now and then active for Thunderbird but have not read from him lately. Last activity 2021.

frg_Away: eventually I am gonna write a prefpane that exclusively handles user agents.. the gecko and firefox mode checkboxes of course but i also want to allow setting general.useragent.override and manage site-specific UAOs are you interested?

the hardest part is the listbox that will be needed everything else is simple as hell

buc backported the Waterfox stuff src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/seamonke…f/seamonkey-2.53.11-ua-update.patch

src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/seamonke…key-2.53.13-ua-update-preload.patch and I think a few others.

Wanted to put this in but no time yet. I alsow want to retain the basic 3 current UAs we how have plus an overridable via json.

didn't this even come from Palemoon intially?

they do have json update but imo the service is total ass and should be rewritten

Pale Moon only has a few recent extensions that finally help people manage them

remember frg_Away from the MozPerspective the code that does it? was only meant as a hack until advocacy fixed it and then ONLY for fennec

because 6000 images might load slightly slower when all on one page

so really it was done from the start as a half-assed stopgap hack

since WE rely on it for basic functionality it should be promoted and perfected

and proper basic management should be provided

as well as the ability to turn it on and off in the UI as well

which code specifically? ua json was never in unless I am mistaken.

no it was but needed some additional fix up at our level

Then you probably only for fennec.

my biggest issue was how THAT part was implimented.. i didn't want to enable updates for ssuao until the module was better suited for our infra and code requirements rather than Mozilla's

speaking of i need to return the uao pref back to its orginal name and also in the add-ons manager change the compat pref back .. THAT we never told anyone about and literally no one ever checked.. as for the uao pref the global one Moonchild wanted it removed but I stood fast against that and got him to compramise by just never mentioning it besides that the previously set pref was non-functional just like compat checking.. if someone figures

it out then well they obviously have the need and likely know and at any rate can take the responsibility for using it.. but the cat was let out of the bag by Moonchild himself basically negating the whole point that HE wanted

and renaming it*

in any event.. some stuff goes back.. some stuff goes forward.. and some stuff goes tobin.

LOL

probabky a severe case of tobinisimn

you know.. if Mozilla introduced overlays to html as a Mozilla Specific Content Feature .. xul would have been enhanced tech wise and THAT part would be long standing and likely would have also improved rdf's chances as well

so if I take preferences.xul and in the startup function check for load flags and if no load flags then dyanmically load prefwindowOverlay.xul .. and prefwindowOverlay is what an application would target to add additional stuff to its main prefwindow.. add that and add the iframe as a prefpane.. add the buttonbox mode one day.. and make that the default platform provided preferences framework.. that should pretty much take that thing to its

highest form