10:12:45 <njsg> tomman: I think jwz changed something recently, that there was a post about it. If it works, any chance he's doing proper error handling/fallback?
10:14:23 <njsg> I don't have experience creating themes, at least not yet, probably got a few links stashed to check about themes, but no idea how useful these are
10:15:06 <njsg> for example, I think I've recently found http://web.archive.org/web/20041111132332if_/http://wp.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/ns6/themes/creating_themes.pdf
10:16:22 <njsg> And http://web.archive.org/web/20210507024211/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Archive/Themes/Building_a_Theme (which, when I found it, was still available at mozilla.org)
10:17:34 <njsg> And a third one http://web.archive.org/web/20210627234142/https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Archive/Mozilla/Creating_a_Skin_for_SeaMonkey_2.x/Getting_Started
10:18:22 <njsg> (wait, skin, not theme?)
15:44:20 <CaptainTobin> frg_Away njsg heh moonchild says my projects are dead and seems that mention of me is punishable by instaban except for MCP staff shitting upon of course
15:44:36 <CaptainTobin> upon me*
15:46:06 <CaptainTobin> well I should thank him.. I have been putting off a little bit but yeah accomplishment is all i have left really .. everything else has been taken
15:48:01 <CaptainTobin> I also know that _nuke and job ARE directly reporting everything I say and do to Moonzilla in here cause he reiterated a small tidbit I planted that I have never discussed with him a few times now
15:48:21 <CaptainTobin> a few small*
15:48:54 <CaptainTobin> doesn't change shit.. but I know ;)
15:49:19 <tomman> dude, I'm gonna say this once, and only once
15:49:22 <tomman> it's time to let it go~
15:49:34 <CaptainTobin> tomman: I am working on it dude
15:49:36 <CaptainTobin> seriously
15:49:41 <CaptainTobin> heh
15:49:48 <CaptainTobin> how are you today tomman
15:50:15 <tomman> The usual, pissed by Apple and Clownflare, but today no website has landed Chromeisms to ruin my day
15:50:31 <frg_Away> I agree with tomman. Just ignore the noise. If any of our projects will make it in the mid or long term will be seen.
15:52:16 <CaptainTobin> I don't want these projects to end it is just so sad to see how no group seems to be as good as the projects deserve or in this project
15:52:25 <CaptainTobin> or in this project's case:
15:53:03 <CaptainTobin> years of apathy and basically a pseudo-silent change in leadership sometime back and mozilla directly working to keep you down for a LONG time
15:53:23 <CaptainTobin> you the project not you personally frg_Away
15:53:58 <CaptainTobin> i mean you are basically defacto leader frg_Away even if the counsel technically still exists
15:54:05 <CaptainTobin> right?
15:54:44 <CaptainTobin> your vision dominates .. my mistake was ignoring or denying it
15:55:34 <CaptainTobin> let me put it like this..
15:56:01 <frg_Away> Nope IanN_Away is the boss but usually we are on the same page. If I were boss beta versions which no one tests and x86 would be done for  :) But if any one of us quits it is the end.
15:56:05 <CaptainTobin> Why the hell do we all need to be doing what we are doing instead of creating extensions and themes for the mozilla platform we were promised
15:56:35 <CaptainTobin> answer that and you win Mozilla
15:57:57 <CaptainTobin> IanN_Away is good at keeping a low profile.. never really drawing my attention negatively indeed i rather like IanN_Away
15:58:58 <CaptainTobin> but he is so good at his low profile bit that he didn't even say anything for years when I was blaming you for everything .. really it was neil but still at the time I rather have blamed you
15:59:22 <CaptainTobin> sorry about that btw
15:59:23 <CaptainTobin> :P
16:06:57 <CaptainTobin> matrix kicks on idle?
16:07:27 <CaptainTobin> and that is why matrix will always be < irc