00:27:37 <CaptainTobin> You know the manager shit in the tools menu?
00:27:55 <CaptainTobin> I might move those to iconic statusbar panels
00:29:54 <CaptainTobin> maybe use the color scheme i introduced into MY security statusbar panel.. to indicate no change for default permissions, green for explicit allow permission and red for explicit deny permission
00:30:18 <CaptainTobin> that also would free up the tools menu quite a bit
00:30:24 <CaptainTobin> like what 4-5 items
00:36:46 <CaptainTobin> in fact all the god damned managers should be accessable from the statusbar
01:00:53 <tomman> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32982697 oh god, Clownflare now wants to become a cellphone telco
01:01:14 <tomman> "Zero Trust SIM"
01:01:18 <tomman> ZERO TRUST, indeed
04:35:52 <CaptainTobin> hey frg.. why do some tree views have dotted heirarchy lines and others most don't?
05:29:37 <CaptainTobin> I figured it out
07:03:37 <CaptainTobin> how does this look http://personal.mattatobin.com/image/capture/b2ae341b-1330-43b9-a3fd-67b045528db0.jpg
07:04:14 <CaptainTobin> I changed the new tab icon back but altered it to better fit in.. I also slightly modified and assigned the allBookmarks icon to the toolbar button
07:04:32 <CaptainTobin> I am next gonna make it when the button is on a toolbar that the bookmarks menu hides its self
07:04:45 <CaptainTobin> cause redundant menu lol
07:05:06 <CaptainTobin> also gonna duplicate and mod it to be a history menu button as well
16:46:41 <TheRepair178> I
16:53:03 <TheRepair178> Hi all, i cam here some time ago to request plugin for SM 2.53, the only one working i use is ublock origine and i want to tell you that youtube is better (24% cpu) than FFX 91.2 with 48% cpu on a ASUS X756
16:57:13 <TheRepair178> *that seamonkey on youtube is better
16:59:10 <IanN_Away> TheRepair178: what plugin were you looking for?
17:30:30 <cabrag> Hello,
17:30:45 <cabrag> I have a thin client with 2548 MB memory
17:31:02 <cabrag> and few times per day I have an issue with seamonkey because of that
17:31:30 <cabrag> Seamonkey really need more than 800 MB of memory for viewing few pages ?
17:32:51 <tomman> cabrag: depends on the sites you're using
17:33:02 <tomman> JS-heavy websites of course are going to tax your RAM hard
17:33:26 <tomman> 2.5GB is basically too little for the modern Googlenet™
17:33:26 <cabrag> should't be some error ? In fact only to kill process will close session
17:33:43 <tomman> what sites are you using specifically?
17:34:00 <tomman> also, does the RAM usage increases gradually, or shots up at any moment?
17:34:03 <cabrag> wikipedia, google and some idle rpg sites
17:34:48 <cabrag> if only seamonkey community page is open is a little more than 300 MB
17:36:07 <tomman> your thin client runs Windows or Linux?
17:36:11 <cabrag> Linux
17:36:24 <tomman> 32 or 64-bit?
17:36:34 <cabrag> 32
17:37:37 <tomman> I haven't checked RAM usage at startup for 32-bit, but for 64-bit with a few addons, ~300Mb is rather normal
17:37:55 <tomman> oh, any addons in use? Adblockers can be quite hungry, too
17:38:00 <cabrag> not yet
17:39:19 <tomman> Right now I'm on 64-bit Linux, ~30 tabs open, and SeaMonkey is using ~1.5GB
17:39:44 <tomman> (30 tabs, most of them are imageboards)
17:39:53 <tomman> Oh, have you tried about:memory?
17:41:41 <tomman> after doing GC+CC once each, RAM usage drops ~200MB
17:42:43 <tomman> Just booted my ol' Thinkpad to Debian - stock SeaMonkey stable, no addons, clean profile
17:42:52 <tomman> RAM usage right at startup is ~186MB
17:43:06 <tomman> (32-bit)
17:49:51 <tomman> increased to ~200MB after a few minutes just idling
17:54:45 <tomman> ...and it's now at 211MB after 10 minutes doing nothing
17:54:46 <tomman> wonder why
18:11:23 <frg_Away> tomman usually safebrowsing list fetches and if uBlock these too among other things.
18:11:55 <tomman> ~15 minutes later it's at 212MB and staying there
18:12:34 <frg_Away> idle gc too.
18:36:10 <CaptainTobin> frg_Away: the platform.. as a kde-like desktop environment and windows shell
18:40:27 <frg_Away> CaptainTobin what do you mean?
18:41:39 <CaptainTobin> well i think it would be cool if an entire desktop environment/windows shell was done in xul
19:29:43 <tomman> nearly 2 hours later, my idle 32-bit instance has been sitting comfortably at 214MB
19:29:51 <tomman> this sets the reference point nicely
19:30:20 <tomman> also I really need better thermal paste for this Thinkpad
20:03:27 <frg_Away> tomman I usually use MX-2 for my Thinkies