06:08:52 <job> tomman: "toho-vote.info/vote even my beloved Touhou Project has fell prey of the Chroimeisms: dynamic imports are now needed for polls WHY!?" I knew you're a Touhou fan after your comment about pixiv :)
06:09:45 <job> Yeah it's annoying having to use Firefox ESR just to participate in that poll (and my favorite Mima is not even top 10, smh)
23:01:59 <tomman> Hmmm... just found some odd behavior of the long defunct (but still useful!) Flashblock addon
23:02:03 <tomman> Consider this page: https://www.applefritter.com/node/539
23:02:17 <tomman> the images are wrapped inside <object> tags (WHY?!)
23:02:32 <tomman> if you have Flashblock installed, the images will load but not render
23:03:23 <tomman> this is why because Flashblock attaches a -moz-binding: url("chrome://flashblock/content/flashblock.xml#brokenobject") !important style to each <object> tag
23:03:35 <tomman> if you disable that rule and reload the page, the images will render
23:04:24 <tomman> I guess it's time to hack Flashblock (and maybe rename it to "AnnoyingHTML5VideoBlock" since it's all what it's good for these post-NPAPI days) and tell it to not mess with <object> tags anymore
23:04:47 <tomman> as for that site using <object> tags to wrap ordinary HTML inside... WHY?!?!?!?!?!
23:05:06 <tomman> It's not even a Chromeism™... or is it?
23:05:54 <tomman> is the <object> tag still worth something these days?
23:07:14 <tomman> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/object well, apparently the standards have allowed for that behavior since forever
23:08:06 <tomman> You're not meant to use it anymore on new developments, tho...
23:08:56 <tomman> no, wait, you're meant to use <object> to embed external media (and it will still work for some MIME types), not as a bizarro <div> equivalent!
23:34:11 <njsg> IIRC object could let you have multiline text alternative content for images, which alt didn't (or maybe I just didn't try hard enough?)
23:35:44 <njsg> tomman: but in that case, it really is just wrapped inside <object></object>!?
23:36:19 <tomman> njsg: yeah, it's basically <object><p><img src="blah"></p></object>
23:36:20 <njsg> Could it be drupal?
23:36:57 <tomman> "<meta name="Generator" content="Drupal 7 (http://drupal.org)" />"
23:36:59 <tomman> have your cookie!
23:38:06 <njsg> no, I wasn't trying to guess the CMS, just wondering if it could be something drupal was doing with images
23:43:37 <tomman> And that's of the class of websites that rarely bothers using the latest shiny, since their audience are... well, dinosaurs (maybe some still even using old PPC Macs)
23:44:05 <tomman> but yeah, that's extremely weird as <object> was not meant as a general purpose container
23:44:06 <njsg> tomman: so far it looks like older articles/pages have that, and newer ones have divs
23:44:17 <tomman> ooh~
23:45:39 <njsg> div,div,div, some with "media" in the class name https://www.applefritter.com/content/using-eworld
23:47:56 <njsg> could even be drupal, or at least this install, handles images and, say, video the same way, and had an <object> for that in the past; but could also be a coincidence