02:34:25 To serve man. A New York Times Best Selling Cook Book! 03:48:43 https://www.techradar.com/news/mozilla-claims-apple-google-and-microsoft-force-users-to-use-default-web-browsers oh Mozilla, you so silly~ 03:51:45 https://research.mozilla.org/browser-competition/ yeah, stop throwing rocks over your glass house, Mozilla 04:24:30 We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. 04:24:44 tomman: You will become one with the Borg. 05:48:18 It's amazing how Microsoft has captured Mozilla to the point where they can release this "report" on the OS itself harassing the user to switch back to the OS default and not call out Windows. 05:48:46 As soon as the user switches their browser, Windows starts yelling at them to change it back and that their preferred browser isn't safe. 06:09:49 think about how worse it is for someone who can't afford an authinticode cert 07:29:06 microsoft, can take their browser, and shove 07:29:07 it 08:13:01 up chromiums bum 09:20:48 yes please 09:44:15 Well that is what mozilla is dong best. Blaming others but themselves. MS is probably targeting Chrome these days. Fx with its shrinking market share and declining web compatibility is a drive by accident. Mozilla now privodes a product not very distingushible from Chrome or Credge. Limited theming, limited functionality for power users, telemetry, studies, pocket and a long list of other... 09:44:17 ...things. Some just in to see if they can make money with them and loosse the google grip. Mobile and tablet browser driven into the ground too. Lots of good developers let go. Not much left. The only thing growing is the number and payment of the board. 09:44:18 Catching new users with the privacy carrot won't work. Probably 99% don't care and thanks to the overall dumbing down of front ends which they did too not many left who even understand this. Maybe an overesimplification but just looking at my circle of friends and seeing Mozilla and Firefox as something of the past for the ones not in IT development. SeaMonkey too but as long as it works for... 09:44:20 ...me I am ok with it :) 09:49:06 Mozilla could help itself by not discouraging its own user base, but they've been somewhat consistent in making maybe-unpopular decisions and telling users it's fine, or that it's for the best. It still sounds obvious to me that getting so close to chrome that there's not much difference will weaken firefox's position. 09:50:25 doesn't mean firefox couldn't still be something with big selling points, it could. The way it happened, it isn't for me, but that's for me. there could be definitely differences that'd still make it tempting to switch to firefox 09:51:11 Now Microsoft, Microsoft... same old, rinse and repeat? 09:53:17 njsg the classic is usually taking some functionality away behind closed doors often citing telemetry, then when the bug overflows with comments restrict it and tell users to discuss it in the developer groups. In them then either ignore comments or making up some mumbo jumbo. The fun thing is that rss is now making a limited comeback. Wonder if they need to put it back in one day :) 10:10:13 Looking at the comments some make the same points I do: 10:10:15 https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/09/23/browsers_mozilla_microsoft_google/ 16:54:29 https://toho-vote.info/vote even my beloved Touhou Project has fell prey of the Chroimeisms: dynamic imports are now needed for polls WHY!? 16:54:47 a certain shrine maiden is not pleased with that 16:55:21 Japan making the leap from 1997s Internet to 2020s Internet is something I regret from happening 17:03:08 everybody knows html forms can't be done or processed without enhanced javascript, that's why 19:56:59 i think the future of classical mozilla tech won't be focusing on the OpenWeb 19:57:52 indeed if the web client aspect is simply not worth it.. I will rip out a fuck ton from the platform runtime 19:58:43 may even go as far as anything past es5 will be removed from the js engine