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IsambardPrince
ghts
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IsambardPrince
Oops
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IsambardPrince
Part of a command for another room.
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IsambardPrince
Apparently, there is still no Rust in Webkit. Hopefully it stays that way.
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IsambardPrince
I thought that Python was a disease because major versions broke compatibility and required major code rewrites/refactoring, but Rust does that within a "stable" series, all the time.
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IsambardPrince
Rust seems to be Cascade of Attention Deficit Teenagers the Programming Language.
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IsambardPrince
Here I was giving all the credit to Python for making people do this once every decade or so. I'm actually impressed. Rust is so much worse and there's a cult forming around it.
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njsg
IsambardPrince: which one was opera presto? I have an opera UA for facebook sites but it doesn't really work as well as it used to. Or did they just move most content behind login?
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IsambardPrince
njsg> IsambardPrince: which one was opera presto? I have an opera UA for facebook sites but it doesn't really work as well as it used to. Or did they just move most content behind login?
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IsambardPrince
Opera Presto ended with Opera 12.16 for Mac and GNU/Linux. 12.17 for Windows.
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IsambardPrince
They came back and bumped it one last time a few years after the Chromium Opera disaster, so that it would stay current enough to connect to HTTPS Web sites for people still using Windows XP.
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IsambardPrince
But they never did that for GNU/Linux or Mac.
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IsambardPrince
Opera is basically dead.
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IsambardPrince
They survived years and years of Internet Explorer mangling Web standards, but it was Chrome that finally took them down.
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IsambardPrince
They also complained loudly and sued Microsoft.
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IsambardPrince
But nope, gotta adopt Chromium.
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njsg
nor did they do it for Android, did they? there's at least one android opera that does not have newer ssl compatibility
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IsambardPrince
I used Opera Mini on my J2ME phone for years.
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IsambardPrince
It came with some crap Webkit browser that said "Out of Memory" whenever you loaded a page.
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IsambardPrince
I moved my Opera stuff over to Wine after they released the Windows-only 12.17.
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IsambardPrince
Kept on using it for a while.
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IsambardPrince
Going back to Fakebook, I actually prefer the old no-JS version anyway.
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IsambardPrince
I don't have to whitelist anything in NoScript and while it's a little clunky because it was obviously meant for ancient cell phones, everything does work, in the end.
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tomman
I prefer zero Fakebook
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IsambardPrince
Well, you and I may get our wish.
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IsambardPrince
Zuckerberg spent so much money on things with no business opportunity attached and there's not much ad money where that came from.
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IsambardPrince
They could very well go the way of Myspace or something within a couple years.
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IsambardPrince
Myspace was part of the "Web 2.0 mania".
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IsambardPrince
Facebook is trying to be part of Web 3.0 Tulip Mania, but they picked a hell of a time to try it.
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IsambardPrince
Venture Capital and ad revenues are down 80-90% already.
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IsambardPrince
And it will get worse than this.
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IsambardPrince
I definitely do not trust "Vivaldi". They were engaging in "openwashing", but they're not open source. All of their important differences vs. Chromium are proprietary, and would not survive. They already sold Opera to the Chinese and left. They want to say they're "the next Opera", but they're not.
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IsambardPrince
I was pleased with Opera in the 90s and 2000s, they had a very efficient program and they sued Microsoft instead of just trying to live in Internet Explorer's shadow. Vivaldi defaults to Bing and uses Google's browser.
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IsambardPrince
The Web is basically finished. The dream of governments and corporations is to turn it into a pipe running to a Virtual Machine for blobs and DRM.
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IsambardPrince
I'm assuming this is why SeaMonkey can't actually run Fakebook without the "legacy Mobile" version.
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tomman
Or... you can do what I do: block Facebook at my router
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tomman
as a nice side effect, it also nukes Instagranola
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tomman
wanna use my WiFi for free? Fine, but no Facebook shall ever be transmitted across my airwaves
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therube
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IsambardPrince
Some versions of that are copyrighted.
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IsambardPrince
The original black and white one isn't because of a mistake registering the film with the copyright office.
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IsambardPrince
Which means that it's in the public domain. But people who take it and colorize it or something gain a copyright because they modified a public domain work.
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IsambardPrince
The mistake regarding the copyright was actually a mistake made possible by the US copyright law that existed at the time. It's since been changed so that mistake would not happen again, but since the movie entered the public domain and Congress never made the fix retroactive, it's still in the public domain.
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njsg
it has been changed, and isn't it also what is prescribed by the Berne convention, that copyright is automatic?
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njsg
youtube has a big problem with automated takedown, I don't even need to read that to imagine what might have happened
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njsg
this is the service that removed media uploaded by NASA because some news station triggered the system