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IsambardPrince
Well, I think that programmers just like to copy things they've seen somewhere before or they have bosses breathing down their necks to do things that don't make very much logical sense, for political reasons.
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IsambardPrince
There's no reason why JavaScript has to have the syntax it does. It ended up that way due to political pressure in the 90s from a company that doesn't exist anymore. Or rather, technically exists on paper because Microsoft and then Facebook bought it for its patents so they could threaten other companies.
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KaiRo[m]
So sad that people here can't even get history right even though they live in it. Oracle actually bought it.
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IsambardPrince
JWZ said that Facebook owns Netscape now.
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IsambardPrince
"New Aurora Corporation" and that it was sold to them by Microsoft.
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IsambardPrince
Patent stripping, both times. What is there left to sell?
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IsambardPrince
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NewTobinParadigm
KaiRo[m]: my history is pretty spot on.. maybe a few exagerations or interpretations here and there but you cannot argue with my overall sense of mozilla history
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NewTobinParadigm
but yeah dude IsambardPrince i think you need to slow down a bit cause i think you are mixing aspects from multiple shitty actions by the companies
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NewTobinParadigm
KaiRo[m]: you still rocking those borg implants or have they switched you over to webassimilation?
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KaiRo[m]
You really think that I care to answer stuff like that? I don't have to play in that league. But it looks like Beckett Mariner is just your kind of character.
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IsambardPrince
JavaScript Interpreter....Security Problem. JavaScript JIT....Security disaster. MICROS~1/GULAG WASM "Alliance".....Just shove binaries into your browser. It's got electrolytes. It's what plants crave!
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IsambardPrince
I like that Pale Moon has a global "Enable WebAssembly" checkbox that lets the user opt-out.
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IsambardPrince
At the rate the Web is going, you definitely won't be able to use Tor even somewhat safely with it in <5 years.
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IsambardPrince
FBI's DisrupTOR operation is probably salivating over WASM.
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IsambardPrince
This is even worse than people shoving Flash and Java into the Tor Browser back when they could.
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IsambardPrince
But it won't just be the FBI attacking it, it'll be Russia, it'll be China, it'll be North Korea, everyone.
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IsambardPrince
"Modern Web" technologies are more focused on the "security" in the sense of "We'll try not to let it escape that tab or out into your computer, but no promises obviously." than they are with privacy. On the issue of privacy, there's about 10 million things in Firefox that subvert it.
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IsambardPrince
So the future of Tor is going to have to focus on Hidden Services and just flat out not allowing Active Web Content technologies, and that's if they even care about the security and privacy of their users, which all indications point to "they don't".
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IsambardPrince
If I browse with Tor at all, it's with the Safest settings, because I know all about the CVEs that you get with Web Fonts, and media codecs, and Scripting.
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IsambardPrince
My opinion of Brendan Eich is not very high. Right? Brave has a Tor Mode, but it leaks like a damned sieve. So you get all the browsing slowness of Tor with none of the safety. In one case, it even leaked DNS lookups out of the browser and to your default DNS servers for several months without anyone realizing it.
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IsambardPrince
Their "Crypto Wallet" partner UpHold? I call it HoldUp because they actively freeze and steal people's money and then don't reply when people ask what's happened.
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IsambardPrince
Super sketchy guy running a super shady company. And so like, this is the guy that made JavaScript. He's smart, but he's a devious person.
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IsambardPrince
If there is currently no way to secure Tor traffic in any Chromium browser due to limitations in Chromium, then they should either not implement it, or have a huge warning to the effect that limitations in Chromium undermine your privacy in Tor Mode, and you are using it at your own risk, and it may be useful for bypassing censorship software at your library or school or something.
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IsambardPrince
NewTobinParadigm: Is there a way I can shoehorn searx.be into SeaMonkey as my default search provider?
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NewTobinParadigm
yeah
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NewTobinParadigm
depending on migration shit in searchplugins in the profile should get entered into the newer storage format
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NewTobinParadigm
or you can simply put it up on a server and call the method to trigger the install of it
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NewTobinParadigm
in my platform i reverted the searchservice back to the pre-early 40s fucking it got
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IsambardPrince
I used Brave an made an UpHold account. It made my taxes a little more complicated, but at least I got my money out of it.
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NewTobinParadigm
actually .. no i think it is checked
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IsambardPrince
They'll go the way of Celsius pretty soon. Bankruptcy fraud to give them time to finish looting a fleeing the country to avoid prosecution.
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NewTobinParadigm
i was thinking you may be able to call it for a local file
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NewTobinParadigm
but no the web sidebar searchengine methods only allow http(s)
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NewTobinParadigm
for security reasons
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IsambardPrince
That's odd. In Firefox and GNOME Web, I was just able to punch it in by hand and assign a search hotkey to it.
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IsambardPrince
Vivaldi too.
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tomman
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tomman
curiously this morning many of the Clownflare-"fronted" websites I usually visit daily were giving 522 errors here for no good reason at all
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tomman
no captcha hell, tho
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tomman
ctrl.blog/entry/detect-non-browser-form-submission.html wait, this idiot ROOTED for that and it's now getting served a bowl of his own poison? :;D
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tomman
(also the blog author dislikes "old Firefox forks" due to the same tired reason of "not keeping up with the Googles")
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njsg
was it Origin that Cloudflare required at that one point when they also screwed up fallback? (they provided alternatives for other browsers, but the check was in these versions too and there was nothing to catch such a failure, and it'd instead go back to the beginning, effectively launching cloudflare's own DDoS against cloudflare)
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therube
seamonkey.exe, [started] a month ago (11:31:47 AM 08/15/2022)
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therube
opened some crap site today, so now sitting at 4GB RAM, so now (tomorrow actually) will be a good time to Quit & installed latest 2.53.15b...
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therube
bye
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frg_Away
therube let me/us know how it goes.
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njsg
therube: I'd try first the buttons in about:memory :-)
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njsg
but of course quitting and starting again might be simpler if there's not much open
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tomman
about:memory is indeed a lifesaver
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NewTobinParadigm
about:about
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NewTobinParadigm
:P
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NewTobinParadigm
about:config as an extension
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NewTobinParadigm
it isn't a terrible idea
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NewTobinParadigm
but i think i like my solution better
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NewTobinParadigm
i have a prefpane that is acting as the main integration tree point thing for adding shit to preferences.. but that prefpane also hosts a xul iframe to about:config so it gives a nearly integrated look