13:41:57 <IanN> Status meeting in 20 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-08-28
13:53:47 <IanN> Status meeting in 8 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-08-28
13:57:07 <WG9s_> hi all here for the meeting!
13:57:14 <IanN> hi WG9s_
14:00:06 <IanN> hi rsx11m
14:00:06 <rsx11m> hi IanN WG9s_ frg
14:00:32 <frg> Hi rsx11m WG9s_ IanN
14:01:00 <njsg> hi .*
14:01:25 <frg> Hi njsg
14:01:38 <WG9s_> I am multi-processing watching F1 race
14:01:50 <frg> I do backports in parallel :)
14:02:00 <IanN> Time for the Status meeting - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-08-28
14:02:08 <rsx11m> I'm sleeping in parallel ;-)
14:02:16 <njsg> I'm multitasking with multiplexed channels in the IRC stream :-)
14:02:47 <IanN> Who's taking minutes?
14:02:51 <frg> I am the biggest braggard!
14:02:54 <frg> me
14:04:04 <frg> probably late again. Busy week ahead
14:04:24 <IanN> thanks
14:04:34 <IanN> Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
14:04:59 <frg> Rainer Bielefeld for doing help changes in de and en-US.
14:05:32 <IanN> seconded
14:05:44 <rsx11m> thirded
14:05:56 <njsg> fourthed
14:06:54 <IanN> Action Items?
14:07:11 <frg> nothing from me bau
14:08:08 <IanN> ditto
14:08:13 <IanN> Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure
14:09:14 <frg> Updated the Windows builder to the latest VS2019 for 2.53.14b1. I did an x86 clang build with the latest clang but was uneasy so no change  here. Still clang 11.
14:09:59 <IanN> uneasy?
14:10:21 <IanN> not enough testing?
14:10:53 <frg> lots of new warnings and I had some trouble with meid aplayback. But was the same in 2.53.13. With the crash reporter more or ess down I didn't want to risk it.
14:11:07 <frg> ^media playback
14:11:46 <IanN> ah ok
14:11:57 <IanN> makes sense
14:12:00 <IanN> Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree
14:13:07 <frg> comm-central still needs the components backout. comm-release56 2.53 is fine. 2.57 is dormant.
14:13:54 <frg> Putting lots of media stuff in 2.53 so please test. Mostly not user visible.
14:14:30 <tomman> arrived just in time with the pancake~
14:14:54 <WG9s_> my windows build are uig clang 14.0.5 if you want to test
14:14:58 <frg> tomman hi
14:15:17 <IanN> hi tomman
14:15:49 <IanN> Release Train
14:16:21 <frg> 2.53.14b1 is done and hopefully available soon.
14:16:44 <frg> Mostly a stability release. Much stuff under the hood but not much for compatibility.
14:17:18 <frg> Tried to get micro tasks in but was greeted with a crash fast so not yet.
14:20:05 <IanN> also changes to some of the DOM HTML element interfaces, so needs testing with as many add-ons as possible
14:20:14 <IanN> to make sure things have not been broken for them
14:20:31 <tomman> speaking of addons
14:20:48 <tomman> if you need to unbreak the latest breakages on GitHub, use roytam's patches to JustOff addon:
14:20:50 <tomman> https://github.com/JustOff/github-wc-polyfill/issues/68#issuecomment-1218104421
14:22:27 <IanN> Extensions Tracking
14:23:17 <frg> A fixed down them all version is now available for 2.53.13. So no excuse not to update to it :)
14:23:41 <frg> https://github.com/dirkf/downthemall-was-legacy/releases
14:23:43 <frg> 3.1.2
14:24:06 <frg> I tiwll not replace to official version so deinstall this one.
14:24:57 <njsg> different ID?
14:25:10 <frg> probably didn't test
14:28:09 <IanN> 2.Next, Feature List, Planning & Roundtable
14:29:14 <frg> bau. Trying to stuff as much into 2.53 as possible.
14:29:31 <IanN> without making it waddle :)
14:30:25 <frg> or puke :)
14:32:45 <IanN> ditto
14:33:29 <IanN> AOB
14:34:20 <frg> bau nothing
14:37:41 <IanN> okay, next meeting is in 3 weeks time
14:37:50 <IanN> same bat channel, same bat time
14:38:02 <IanN> thanks for your time today, I'll call this a meeting
14:38:24 <rsx11m> yepp, on the calendar somewhere
14:38:38 <frg> holy meeting
14:38:46 <WG9s_> OK off to the liquor store
14:39:01 * rsx11m sticks with coffee
14:39:03 <frg_Away> WG9s robbing it I assume :)
14:39:13 <njsg> September 18?
14:39:19 <WG9s_> ;-)
14:39:27 <frg_Away> njsg yes
14:39:57 <IanN> correct
14:39:58 <rsx11m> bye for now!
14:40:02 <IanN> bye rsx11m
14:41:10 <frg_Away> bye
20:28:42 <bredge> Can you make the interface like Thunderbird?
20:40:13 <NewTobinParadigm> isn't it?
20:40:24 <NewTobinParadigm> i mean they were once the same program
21:07:58 <bredge> Thunderbird UI is modern
21:08:20 <bredge> seamonkey is like my grandfather's software
22:37:36 <tomman> I wish I had a grandfather~
22:37:49 <tomman> I would take him over "modern"
23:13:55 <NewTobinParadigm> tomman: do you know off hand if there is any issue aside from escaping in bash against using curly braces as directory or filenames
23:14:41 <tomman> doesn't Windows love using those as GUIDs?
23:14:46 <tomman> --for GUIDs