virustotal.com/gui => now wants fancy regex groups

Chromeisms are now a virus, it seems

tomman worked on it a bit more Sunday and 2 patches further in it but still needs much work.

I can't even read the offending regex!

Error al obtener una fuente original: TypeError: NetworkError when attempting to fetch resource.

URL de la Fuente: webpack://vt-ui-main/src/controllers/matcher-utility.ts

Did they do news.mozilla.org finally in?

Probably Mitchell Baker outsourcing everything to MICROS~1 and GULAG so she can up her pay another half million dollars a year and fire another 500.

It's been coming for years, everything from the non-apology for Web DRM to "everyone uses GMail anyway, so to hell with Thunderbird." (paraphrase)

I think they went to GULAG something-or-other for their newsgroups, and it's not standard NNTP anymore, no.

And they've been outsourcing to MICROS~1 GitHub too, where things go to disappear in the middle of the night.

Part of Microsoft's concern trolling open source in general is you need GitHub because "e-mail is hard" and their attack on Mozilla in particular has been numerous, although my favorite is the repeated "Just kill off Gecko and use Chromium already....we'll pay you graft money to be a 'research organization' with us at the head of the table, like the Linux Destroying Foundation.".

Mozilla is definitely going that way. The Organization gets an F from Charity Navigator and spends less than 60% of their budget on software development according to the IRS filings. Linux Destroying Foundation only spends 4% so that's much, much worse.

I got a huge kick from reading a blog post from a Vivaldi developer about all the work to maintain it. Like almost all the work is to keep it from falling over every time Google bumps something in Chromium. And in Chromium-speak, 8 weeks for the rendering engine is "Long Term Stable" now.

the enemy is not MS anumore

--anymore

it's GOOGLE

It's both.

but Google is the biggest one

compared to Google, MS is small fry

Same **** different ******s.

;)

I still hate Google way more than I ever hated MS

all because of Chrome and Android

even Windows wasn't THAT evil!

Microsoft is less menacing on the Web due to running off with Crashium and building something amazingly more terrible with it.

at least us nerds managed to dethrone IE eventually

...but the same nerds are cementing the Google/Chrome monoculture in place

It lives on in the bowels of Windows due to Microsoft threatening to break everyone's legs unless they depended on it somehow in the 90s and early 2000s.

Windows will be unused and dead before MSHTML gets removed.

the day Google convinces banks that they can run Android on their ATMs, that day MS is dead for good :D

(and that day I'm closing each and every bank account I have)

There are still banks running OS/2 on their ATMs to avoid Windows.

over here it's all Windows

it's either XP or 7, if you're lucky

Windows probably causes them more fraud than credit card fraud.

But Microsoft can pay to keep its names and products out of the news about malware.

...not that you can find an ATM working over here, as banks simply can't afford keep them working

my city went from ~100 down to roughly a dozen

One of my banks still uses Solaris on the backend.

...and half of them are from the state-owned bank

Why not? It works.

Paying to switch over to Windows would be a waste of time and effort and money.

and of course Orrible® killed Solaris just because they could :/

It's like I always say about adulterers who leave for something worse.

You don't trade DOWN! Why go to Windows?

I was unhappy about what happened to OpenSolaris.

I feel that soon, in the Post-PC Era™, Windows won't be a pain anymore because Silly Valley will find a way to shove cellphones down every business throat

I finally found one non-Linux *nix OS that actually worked on my PCs.

And then they killed it.

Well, time to find another website today that requires the latest pile of dumb Chromeisms...

They're trying to kill off real PCs and IRC.

Teaching kids to use those damned Chromebooks and Matrix.org, which is basically hate groups and smut, like Reddit.

I suppose you could probably run SeaMonkey on the Linux Subsystem in a Chromebook.

Kids here don't even use that, it's all WhatsApp and all other Meth properties

amazingly enough, Chrome OS has a near-zero presence in my country

but then, pirate Windows is cheaper

I was wondering what the deal was with matrix (the awful official version) being overrun by kids was.

but then kids stopped using Real Computers

They said their school's administrator was too stupid to block it, so that's what they were using to message each other with on their Chromebooks.

so it's all down to Android

the day Wikipedia embraces Chromeisms, we will know that we're total and completely doomed

and that day WILL come

mark my words

It actually tells you what people are signed in with. It's overwhelmingly Chromebooks. I guess the upside is that Linux is not uncommon. Rarely do you see a "Windows".

If I had to guess based on a rough census of UAs on the official Matrix, it's 80% Chromebooks, 15% Linux, 4% Windows, and 1% Macs. Not counting mobile.

Android is overwhelmingly popular on the mobiles, but a few use it on iPhones.

Yes, it's not difficult at all to see where this is going.

Apple is basically a rounding error here - too expensive for hellholes like mine

Google keeps spamming the Web Platform with Chrome-isms that are not planned well, or designed.

I refuse to use Chrome for a lot of reasons.So I have an ungoogled chromium I hear about sometimes when Flatpak updates it.

And webdev kids jump on said Chromeisms the day they get released because OOOH SHINY

I found one of the major credit bureaus in the US will actually ban your account if you use Firefox.

wat

isn't that grounds for a lawsuit?

So I keep around an entire browser so TransUnion won't ban me while I'm trying to manage my credit report.

I guess I'm glad that "credit score" is not a thing in my country

I understand that before FICO in 1989, the credit bureaus just openly decided based on things like rumors about you from people at work, your neighbors, the grocery store, and your race.

OVer here getting a credit card is impossible

By shoving it all into an algorithm they can say it's "fair" even though nobody is allowed to look at the formula.

getting an actual loan is also imposible

but that was because our economy tanked due to political reasons

--is

When does an economy tank and it's not because of political reasons?

I don't know of any.

I guess banks over here refrain from becoming Chrome-only™ due to the large number of XP installs still out there (including in branches)

Either regulators control everything, incompetently, or they let banks and speculators do whatever they want.

I haven't seen an example of a major economy where there's government regulators that aren't corrupt, know what they're doing, and have power.

you enter in any public office, and the number of Pentium 4s running pirate XP is scary

Sounds like Illinois.

you may be lucky and find Pentium Ds or early Core machines running cracktivated W7

I moved here in 2016 and the Medicaid and License Branch were running XP on Dell Pentium 4s.

Dells!? HPs?! too much luxury for public offices here

I doubt they were paying MICROS~1 for EOL support either.

It was during the two year budget shutdown.

if you find more than two of those in any city hall here, it's remnants from back when they had a competent government that didn't lasted

The courts were ordering the states to pay for bare essentials, but there was no budget, and the unpaid bills just piles up at 9% interest.

*state

You'd get hit by a State Trooper or something and they'd admit fault, two years later you might get a check.

developer.chrome.com/blog/help-css-nesting WHAT

WHY

Probably to ensure that nobody knows how to write a Web site by hand.

How difficult would it be to add Gemini support to SeaMonkey?

I'm assuming most of what's needed is already there since it's basically just text.

the fact people are now running their websites through a COMPILER says a lot about the sorry state of modern webdev

the fact modern browsers can boot a Linux kernel inside with 3D acceleration is scary as hell to

--too

Netscape 4 did it.

They rushed to try to get JavaScript Style Sheets (JSSS) in before the W3C could standardize CSS. Then when the W3C chose CSS, Netscape quickly implemented a JSSS to CSS converter.

Which is why CSS didn't work if you disabled JavaScript.

I only saw one Web page that ever used JSSS anyway, and it was a demonstration of JSSS as part of "dynamic HTML".

It only worked in Netscape 4.

And what do you know? Nesting!

Imagine if JSSS had caught on and you couldn't turn off JavaScript without ALSO breaking style sheets.

That was the entire intent.

sounds like something terrible

They wanted JavaScript to be impossible to turn off.

hence, why Google now wants it

"e-mail is hard"!?

tomman hence, why Google now wants it

oh, Microsoft is still a source of troubles

I would say Google's is a fair bit worse.

At least Netscape's proposal fit neatly on a few pages, chapter by chapter.

their mail servers, to name one thing, but there's also their office formats, which are apparently still a thing

To where a person could understand what they were doing with it.

FedEx makes me use Microsoft Office formats.

You never know how documents will turn out at FedEx.

FedEx still uses DC-10s for flying cargo :D

I sent my husband to the consulate to renew his passport and it said "photocopy of your state ID and Green Card".

And they came out in portrait mode.

maybe someday they'll discover that computers fit in the palm of your hand, and that modern airplanes are cheaper

The consulate officer was laughing so hard he had to stop what he was doing, and everyone in the room was looking at the desk we were at.

tomman: there are people in the wikipedia community who are "why would you have javascript disabled?", so chromeisms appearing in mediawiki and ruining usability at wikipedia is not that far-fetched.

I was literally at home in my pajamas using my phone to scan it all.

Because of all of this COVID nonsense.

So I didn't even see it until it was too late to do anything about it.

Still better that government newfound fixation on "need to take a selfie photo holding your ID card" they've adopted for many public procedures

the one jwz has been pointing out as a possible scam-ish dealing?

I sent a photo off to renew my bus pass, which has to have my photo on it.

They sent me one that has a white square with a 1 pixel by 1 pixel photo of me in the square.

Nobody ever looks at the thing though, so I just use it.

I think they've mentioned plans to adopt that in .pt too, I do hope that's mostly for exceptional cases

after all, there are EIDs...

If there's any question, it has my name on it, and so does my driver's license.

Venezuelan public offices are adopting the "selfie with ID" way en masse since COVIDiots happened

The state was sending people gun permits with other people's pictures on them.

:)

this of course assumes you have a phone with a decent camera

hell, our driving licenses are now sent on PDFs!

at one point, I think R

but of course you can't show a PDF to the cops

you MUST print them

IN COLOR

and laminate it!

at one point, I think R-kioski managed to hand passports to the wrong people

(that in .fi)

why even get rid of the plastic cards then?

ah yeah, "sanctions" or some BS

Every time you go to get your driver's license you have to dig up more documents to give to them.

also: car titles

The Weeping Angels in Dr. Who would be a blessing for me.

which used to be printed in fancy security paper (the same one used for banknotes)

Send me back 60 years ago where I don't have to prove who I am every 5 minutes and deal with idiots on a smart phone.

now... you've guessed it: that has been replaced by PDFs you have to print IN COLOR

They take 60 days to send you a car title now.

there's indeed something with news.mozilla.org

very small bandwidth?

well, not good, I still had a few unread messages there

this reminds the time I was helping a friend to renew her passport online

the site was erroring out deep into the process

near to the "finish and pay up" part

I had to bring on the Inspector, figure out the URLs I was supposed to get redirected, and unstuck the procedure

she managed to not lose the $100 the government was charging to renew a passport in their broken webapp

(time later I would learn that this error was intentional - one of the many delay tactics used by the commies here to prevent people from getting passports)

Apparently some variable was being set to null or some similar BS, but getting the correct URLs was trivial after understanding the process flow

so literally I had to HACK the government :D

ohnoes, I'm going to jail for terrirism~~~

(this was not even on SeaMonkey but vanilla Firefox, last year)

BaronHK I probably shouldn't mention it.

BaronHK But the Bankruptcy Act requires you to go through hours of shaming on going without air conditioning and not shopping at Whole Foods and turning your clothes inside out to wash them.

BaronHK Really helps with the $200,000 Emergency Room bills that send most people to bankruptcy court I guess.

(Sorry, I sent that not knowing my connection went down.)

Anyway, the debtor education Web site literally just counts to two hours using JavaScript and won't let you finish the "test" until it's been two hours.

But you can just zip through it, use the console, and then hit done.

It also has other code to sign you out if it doesn't detect the mouse moving over the page and make you start all over again.

If they implemented this all in some way that was impossible to figure out, you'd just have to have one of those programs that bumps the mouse cursor around like those "work from home" people do.

tomman: BaronHK: I, huh... well, about these implementations: what's wrong with people!?