01:53:20 <a-865> NewTobinParadigm: I was for a long time, don't really consider myself to have stopped, though I spend very little time consciously doing any.
01:53:52 <NewTobinParadigm> I still have bug edit privs bestowed upon me by Ratty
01:54:45 <a-865> I don't remember how to check what my privs are.
01:55:01 <NewTobinParadigm> it's on the internet somewhere
13:30:14 <IanN> Status meeting in 30 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-07-17
13:41:25 <IanN> Status meeting in 19 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-07-17
13:49:40 <IanN> hi WaltS48
13:50:11 <njsg> hi .*
13:50:19 <frg_away> Hi WaltS48
13:50:31 <WaltS48> hi IanN and all. Feeiling  a little under the weather here.
13:50:38 <IanN> Status meeting in 10 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-07-17
13:51:01 <IanN> it's creeping up to 30 degress here...
13:52:15 <frg_away> IanN quiz and a beer later?
13:52:36 <IanN> frg_away: most definitely to the pub for a quiz and a drink
13:52:43 <frg_away> 21 here
13:52:52 <frg_away> https://www.ventusky.com/?p=50.8;8.8;5&l=temperature-2m
13:54:39 <frg_away> Looks like we will hit the 30ies Tuesday
13:55:29 <IanN> Status meeting in 5 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-07-17
13:57:13 <WG9s_> hiu all here for the meeting
13:57:16 <WG9s_> hi
13:57:23 <IanN> hi WG9s_
13:59:14 <frg_away> Hi rsx11m
13:59:30 <rsx11m> hi frg_away IanN WG9s_
13:59:52 <rsx11m> hi WaltS48
13:59:56 <IanN> hi rsx11m
14:00:27 <WaltS48> hi rsx11m
14:00:45 <IanN> Time for the Status meeting - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-07-17
14:00:50 <frg_away> rsx11m Internet no longer melted?
14:01:09 <IanN> Who's taking minutes?
14:01:30 <frg_away> me
14:01:40 <rsx11m> frg_away: working again, took them quite a while to fix it :-/
14:02:23 <IanN> thannks
14:03:06 <IanN> Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
14:03:26 <WG9s_> I finally got around to redoing my clandar reminder so it coincides with the new schedule
14:03:44 <frg_away> IanN for being master of desaster
14:04:40 <rsx11m> seconded!
14:04:42 <WG9s_> hmm was that an A-Team reference?  Like BA Baracas, or more like Bruce and the GIg man reference
14:04:53 <frg_away> and given the longer schedule mcsmurf for Santas little helper :)
14:06:04 <IanN> sssh, not allowed to mention the S word yet
14:06:15 <WG9s> I don;t understand mcsmurf.  Is he green or blue?
14:06:36 <frg_away> purple I think.
14:07:09 <frg_away> Without him no money to toss around.
14:07:28 <WG9s_> JUst sayin"  mc sounds green-ish smurf sounds blue-ish.
14:08:46 <frg_away> Anyone seconded or just a signle nomination this time ?
14:09:03 <rsx11m> oh, that waas another nomination?
14:09:11 <rsx11m> seconded for the second time then
14:09:16 <WG9s_> i thought it was seonded if not i second
14:09:17 <IanN> thuirded
14:10:07 <rsx11m> quadrupled
14:10:23 <IanN> Action Items
14:11:05 <frg_away> Hrosik added a non private cert to the log bot so time to add it to the website.
14:11:22 <WG9s_> NOt sure this is in the action items list, but I need to get on the stick to get comm-central builds to work without my now 2 backouts.
14:12:07 <WG9s_> but then might be more approprite for state of the tree topic
14:12:07 <frg_away> Given googles policy on privacy and freedom of speech time to removed the archives from it too I think: https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.seamonkey/
14:14:50 <IanN> is there another place that has the archives?
14:15:54 <frg_away> IanN I don't think so but the newsgroup is still there. Still hosted somewhere.
14:16:40 <frg_away> Still using mozilla.test together with WaltS48 and a few others :)
14:17:47 <IanN> good :)
14:18:01 <njsg> I think news.mozilla.org is still operating normally at least for seamonkey groups. But that's only via news; I don't remember if gmane has previous archives for this list, but that also doesn't have a web interface nowadays.
14:20:03 <IanN> any views on the schedule switch from those that were not at the last meeting?
14:21:25 <tonymec> what schedule switch?
14:21:54 <frg_away> tonymec 3 weeks instad of two weeks
14:22:16 <tonymec> ah, no prob for me.
14:22:18 <rsx11m> I'm fine with that
14:22:32 <frg_away> https://ircbot.comm-central.org:8080/seamonkey/20220626#c196579
14:24:01 <IanN> thanks :)
14:24:15 <IanN> Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure
14:25:30 <frg_away> ewong is busy so don't think anything done. Updated the Windows builder to latest VS2019 for 2.53.13 as announced.
14:26:48 <frg_away> I think I might update clang to the latest 14.x level for the next beta. WG9s has no problmes with it under Windows.
14:26:56 <frg_away> Still using 11.x
14:27:31 <IanN> yeah, I will have to test it on CentOS7
14:27:34 <frg_away> Anything > 9 is blocked on the Linux builder.
14:27:48 <frg_away> Unless we compile ourselves.
14:30:16 <IanN> Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree
14:31:15 <frg_away> comm-central is broken because of some mozilla component removals. WG9s has a workaround.
14:31:38 <frg_away> Nothing we would want to backport so slow go from me.
14:33:28 <frg_away> If WG9s does not beat me to it might take a look next weekend. Patches can then land in the queue like the xhtml rename and applied later.
14:36:04 <IanN> Release Train
14:37:18 <IanN> 2.53.13 was released last week
14:37:19 <frg_away> 2.53.13 is out. IanN and I are busy putting in stylo fixes but not there yet. I think we should do a 2.53.13.1 for the next sec update and just bake 2.53.14 a bit more.
14:38:08 <frg_away> That siad it is very stable.
14:38:14 <frg_away> ^said
14:40:06 <IanN> Extensions Tracking
14:40:53 <frg_away> 2.53.13 broke some as expected. DTA is still not fixed. Others are being updated at least unofficially.
14:42:23 <WG9s_> I am still on 11.x clang on macos cross-compiles another back burner fix thing iam behind on
14:43:02 <frg_away> Well later version worked for me on Rocky 8 I think.
14:43:11 <frg_away> Need to check.
14:43:22 <WG9s_> i need to sort that out
14:43:56 <WG9s_> sorry i am commenting on back posts was away for a bit there
14:44:42 <tonymec> Don't know since how long (forgot to report it) but the main about:addons page is broken for me. All lines show only (disabled) without an extension name. Extensions work though, and I can access their preferences by means of the Extension Options addon. To enable or disable them I would have to hand-edit the appropriate ini format file somewhere in the profile hierarchy.
14:44:58 <frg_away> I do all building in virtual machines. Much more stable. Server 2016 and CentOS 7 and now a bit of Rocky 8.
14:45:13 <njsg> tonymec: which SM version?
14:45:33 <frg_away> tonymec Do you have version number installed? Remove it.
14:46:49 <tonymec> frg_away: 2.53.14b1pre 20220716210004 but is been (IIRC) already months like this.
14:47:56 <frg_away> tonymec check the error console.
14:48:25 <tonymec> frg_away: I'll try that after the meeting bcuz not obvious (shutdown Sm, hand-edit the extensions profile file, restart).
14:50:49 <IanN> 2.Next, Feature List, Planning & Roundtable
14:50:51 <tonymec> frg_away: there's so much in the Browser Console I'm swamped
14:53:53 <frg_away> nothing new from me.
14:54:32 <IanN> nor I
14:56:26 <njsg> I'm hoping I can do at least one more address-book related fix.
14:56:48 <IanN> frg_away is the master of add-ons :)
14:58:41 <frg_away> IanN I wish. But no alternative. On the bright side with manifest v3 crippling stuff it will be fun to still have add and script blocking still fully working using xul.
14:58:57 <WG9s_> nothing from me
14:59:09 <IanN> AOB
14:59:38 <frg_away> Btw. for issues with Stylish in latest release: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=3097502&p=14933501#p14933501
15:02:04 <tonymec> no AOB for me
15:02:48 <IanN> okay, thanks for your time today, next meeting is in 3 weeks time, same bat channel, same bat time
15:02:54 <rsx11m> = August 7th
15:04:10 <IanN> correct :)
15:04:21 <njsg> it'll hopefully be cooler by then? or have I jinxed it now?
15:04:42 <rsx11m> August and "cool" doesn't quite mix
15:04:53 <rsx11m> but you never know these days...
15:06:32 <IanN> no warmer than today please
15:06:46 <rsx11m> happy grilling!  8-)
15:07:30 <WaltS48> bye!
15:09:03 <frg_away> Sunny days ahead
15:09:06 <frg_away> bye
15:18:30 <tomman> FWIW, all of my addons are fine, but the first time the legacy generators stuff got removed I had to patch up things here
15:18:41 <tomman> can't remember exactly what addon I had to fix, but eh, I was ready this time~
15:40:42 <frg_Away> tomman can't say I like to take stuff out but these ancient js syntax needed to go. maybe a bit more but then we should be good. Wasted days rebasing patches and always one feet in the Spidermonkey grave :) Now with js test running again I can at least see if serious damage was done.