NewTobinParadigm: I was for a long time, don't really consider myself to have stopped, though I spend very little time consciously doing any.

I still have bug edit privs bestowed upon me by Ratty

I don't remember how to check what my privs are.

it's on the internet somewhere

Status meeting in 30 minutes - wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-07-17

Status meeting in 19 minutes - wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-07-17

hi WaltS48

hi .*

Hi WaltS48

hi IanN and all. Feeiling a little under the weather here.

Status meeting in 10 minutes - wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-07-17

it's creeping up to 30 degress here...

IanN quiz and a beer later?

frg_away: most definitely to the pub for a quiz and a drink

21 here

Looks like we will hit the 30ies Tuesday

Status meeting in 5 minutes - wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-07-17

hiu all here for the meeting

hi

hi WG9s_

Hi rsx11m

hi frg_away IanN WG9s_

hi WaltS48

hi rsx11m

hi rsx11m

Time for the Status meeting - wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-07-17

rsx11m Internet no longer melted?

Who's taking minutes?

me

frg_away: working again, took them quite a while to fix it :-/

thannks

Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?

I finally got around to redoing my clandar reminder so it coincides with the new schedule

IanN for being master of desaster

seconded!

hmm was that an A-Team reference? Like BA Baracas, or more like Bruce and the GIg man reference

and given the longer schedule mcsmurf for Santas little helper :)

sssh, not allowed to mention the S word yet

I don;t understand mcsmurf. Is he green or blue?

purple I think.

Without him no money to toss around.

JUst sayin" mc sounds green-ish smurf sounds blue-ish.

Anyone seconded or just a signle nomination this time ?

oh, that waas another nomination?

seconded for the second time then

i thought it was seonded if not i second

thuirded

quadrupled

Action Items

Hrosik added a non private cert to the log bot so time to add it to the website.

NOt sure this is in the action items list, but I need to get on the stick to get comm-central builds to work without my now 2 backouts.

but then might be more approprite for state of the tree topic

Given googles policy on privacy and freedom of speech time to removed the archives from it too I think: groups.google.com/g/mozilla.support.seamonkey

is there another place that has the archives?

IanN I don't think so but the newsgroup is still there. Still hosted somewhere.

Still using mozilla.test together with WaltS48 and a few others :)

good :)

I think news.mozilla.org is still operating normally at least for seamonkey groups. But that's only via news; I don't remember if gmane has previous archives for this list, but that also doesn't have a web interface nowadays.

any views on the schedule switch from those that were not at the last meeting?

what schedule switch?

tonymec 3 weeks instad of two weeks

ah, no prob for me.

I'm fine with that

thanks :)

Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure

ewong is busy so don't think anything done. Updated the Windows builder to latest VS2019 for 2.53.13 as announced.

I think I might update clang to the latest 14.x level for the next beta. WG9s has no problmes with it under Windows.

Still using 11.x

yeah, I will have to test it on CentOS7

Anything > 9 is blocked on the Linux builder.

Unless we compile ourselves.

Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree

comm-central is broken because of some mozilla component removals. WG9s has a workaround.

Nothing we would want to backport so slow go from me.

If WG9s does not beat me to it might take a look next weekend. Patches can then land in the queue like the xhtml rename and applied later.

Release Train

2.53.13 was released last week

2.53.13 is out. IanN and I are busy putting in stylo fixes but not there yet. I think we should do a 2.53.13.1 for the next sec update and just bake 2.53.14 a bit more.

That siad it is very stable.

^said

Extensions Tracking

2.53.13 broke some as expected. DTA is still not fixed. Others are being updated at least unofficially.

I am still on 11.x clang on macos cross-compiles another back burner fix thing iam behind on

Well later version worked for me on Rocky 8 I think.

Need to check.

i need to sort that out

sorry i am commenting on back posts was away for a bit there

Don't know since how long (forgot to report it) but the main about:addons page is broken for me. All lines show only (disabled) without an extension name. Extensions work though, and I can access their preferences by means of the Extension Options addon. To enable or disable them I would have to hand-edit the appropriate ini format file somewhere in the profile hierarchy.

I do all building in virtual machines. Much more stable. Server 2016 and CentOS 7 and now a bit of Rocky 8.

tonymec: which SM version?

tonymec Do you have version number installed? Remove it.

frg_away: 2.53.14b1pre 20220716210004 but is been (IIRC) already months like this.

tonymec check the error console.

frg_away: I'll try that after the meeting bcuz not obvious (shutdown Sm, hand-edit the extensions profile file, restart).

2.Next, Feature List, Planning & Roundtable

frg_away: there's so much in the Browser Console I'm swamped

nothing new from me.

nor I

I'm hoping I can do at least one more address-book related fix.

frg_away is the master of add-ons :)

IanN I wish. But no alternative. On the bright side with manifest v3 crippling stuff it will be fun to still have add and script blocking still fully working using xul.

nothing from me

AOB

Btw. for issues with Stylish in latest release: forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.ph…f=40&t=3097502&p=14933501#p14933501

no AOB for me

okay, thanks for your time today, next meeting is in 3 weeks time, same bat channel, same bat time

= August 7th

correct :)

it'll hopefully be cooler by then? or have I jinxed it now?

August and "cool" doesn't quite mix

but you never know these days...

no warmer than today please

happy grilling! 8-)

bye!

Sunny days ahead

bye

FWIW, all of my addons are fine, but the first time the legacy generators stuff got removed I had to patch up things here

can't remember exactly what addon I had to fix, but eh, I was ready this time~

tomman can't say I like to take stuff out but these ancient js syntax needed to go. maybe a bit more but then we should be good. Wasted days rebasing patches and always one feet in the Spidermonkey grave :) Now with js test running again I can at least see if serious damage was done.