06:31:28 <user_id[m]> <buc> "Just came to suggest user)id[m..." <- Hello buc, thanks for reply. I'll try various ways
22:56:46 <tomman> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31683214 greedy nerds just reinvented Mozilla Suite/SeaMonkey, just... way worse
22:57:30 <tomman> > Despite not being open source, I appreciate that Vivaldi lets you customize its UI and behavior to a reasonable degree. It's the closest thing we have a browser for power users [...]
22:57:40 <tomman> yup, those kids were literally born yesterday :/
23:13:17 <njsg> excuse me while I open the window to laugh out loud
23:14:08 <njsg> yeah, sure, people won't get born with knowledge of the entire universe, but you're bound to realize that either you've seen everything, or then you shouldn't be making such comments
23:14:43 <njsg> I'm hopeful somebody there will know SeaMonkey and mention it, even if they don't use it
23:15:18 <njsg> I mean, even with such a specific subset of the internet, there has to be somebody there who has seen it. ...right?
23:15:45 <njsg> ah, mentioned already
23:29:51 <tomman> Wonder how would be a Hackernews thread about SeaMonkey
23:30:09 <tomman> ...I guess 90% of the comments would be "ooooooooooooooooooooold UNSAFE DANGER MINES!!!"
23:30:24 <tomman> ..and the other 10% is "runs horrible on my Mac" or "it is not Chrome"
23:31:22 <tomman> and one lone guy saying it at least respects their privacy... and gets downvoted to oblivion
23:31:42 <njsg> ooooh, I know what I'd reply that "mines!!!! comment with!
23:32:06 <njsg> «Here you go, a minesweeper-like game implemented as a SeaMonkey extension: <link>»
23:32:15 <tomman> :D
23:32:33 <tomman> oh, and another lengthy thread about "their monetization model is not sound, needs more IPO/VC funding/crypto/NFTs"
23:32:50 <tomman> I wonder why I still read HN...
23:33:03 <njsg> because n-gate stopped being updated? :-P
23:33:06 <tomman> ...oh yeah, Slashdot is *way* worse, and I don't like Reddit
23:33:55 <tomman> a thread about SM on Slashdot would be basically 90% trolls, and a lone +5 Insightful comment downmodded to -1 Troll
23:34:38 <tomman> also: Slashdot was on the bloaty side, and some things behaved screwy if you adblock
23:34:43 <tomman> like the sidebars
23:34:59 <tomman> at least HN is... 99% pure basic HTML
23:35:30 <tomman> which is ironic, considering their audience
23:36:01 <njsg> question: can you read HN with mosaic? mosaic-ck?
23:36:07 <njsg> [enter unicode emoji]
23:36:13 <tomman> good question
23:36:15 <tomman> it's HTTPS-only
23:36:28 <njsg> (but really, can you? ... ok, then you likely can't)
23:36:36 <tomman> so you at least need a proxy
23:36:51 <tomman> wait, didn't I built Mosaic once?
23:37:07 <tomman> ...not on this computer, it seems
23:37:10 <njsg> I don't recall if mosaic-ck had anything for ssl; for proxying, perhaps jwz has something, or was that just for "Host:"?
23:37:17 <njsg> oh, I have it built, yes...
23:37:57 <njsg> somewhere. but I think it still needed adjustments for libpng
23:38:08 <tomman> https://github.com/tenox7/wrp or you can cheat massively
23:40:32 <tomman> https://github.com/atauenis/webone - .NET required
23:41:39 <tomman> https://superuser.com/questions/1487553/proxy-or-other-solution-that-can-allow-vintage-browsers-before-https-era-wi
23:41:56 <tomman> now I'm tempted to plug my 386sx and have some DOS fun with Arachne