libera #seamonkey

9 Jun 2022

Surfing the net has never been so suite | SeaMonkey Release: 2.53.20 Beta: 2.53.21b1 | seamonkey-project.org/releases | This channel is logged at logbot.thereisonlyxul.org/seamonkey | SeaMonkey Nightly:2.53 b1pre Archive: archive.seamonkey-project.org/nightly | c-c (OPEN ) , c-253 (APPROVAL ONLY) | R.I.P. WG9s

• 06:31
  user_id[m]
  <buc> "Just came to suggest user)id[m..." <- Hello buc, thanks for reply. I'll try various ways
• 22:56
  tomman
  news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31683214 greedy nerds just reinvented Mozilla Suite/SeaMonkey, just... way worse
• 22:57
  tomman
  > Despite not being open source, I appreciate that Vivaldi lets you customize its UI and behavior to a reasonable degree. It's the closest thing we have a browser for power users [...]
• 22:57
  tomman
  yup, those kids were literally born yesterday :/
• 23:13
  njsg
  excuse me while I open the window to laugh out loud
• 23:14
  njsg
  yeah, sure, people won't get born with knowledge of the entire universe, but you're bound to realize that either you've seen everything, or then you shouldn't be making such comments
• 23:14
  njsg
  I'm hopeful somebody there will know SeaMonkey and mention it, even if they don't use it
• 23:15
  njsg
  I mean, even with such a specific subset of the internet, there has to be somebody there who has seen it. ...right?
• 23:15
  njsg
  ah, mentioned already
• 23:29
  tomman
  Wonder how would be a Hackernews thread about SeaMonkey
• 23:30
  tomman
  ...I guess 90% of the comments would be "ooooooooooooooooooooold UNSAFE DANGER MINES!!!"
• 23:30
  tomman
  ..and the other 10% is "runs horrible on my Mac" or "it is not Chrome"
• 23:31
  tomman
  and one lone guy saying it at least respects their privacy... and gets downvoted to oblivion
• 23:31
  njsg
  ooooh, I know what I'd reply that "mines!!!! comment with!
• 23:32
  njsg
  «Here you go, a minesweeper-like game implemented as a SeaMonkey extension: <link>»
• 23:32
  tomman
  :D
• 23:32
  tomman
  oh, and another lengthy thread about "their monetization model is not sound, needs more IPO/VC funding/crypto/NFTs"
• 23:32
  tomman
  I wonder why I still read HN...
• 23:33
  njsg
  because n-gate stopped being updated? :-P
• 23:33
  tomman
  ...oh yeah, Slashdot is *way* worse, and I don't like Reddit
• 23:33
  tomman
  a thread about SM on Slashdot would be basically 90% trolls, and a lone +5 Insightful comment downmodded to -1 Troll
• 23:34
  tomman
  also: Slashdot was on the bloaty side, and some things behaved screwy if you adblock
• 23:34
  tomman
  like the sidebars
• 23:34
  tomman
  at least HN is... 99% pure basic HTML
• 23:35
  tomman
  which is ironic, considering their audience
• 23:36
  njsg
  question: can you read HN with mosaic? mosaic-ck?
• 23:36
  njsg
  [enter unicode emoji]
• 23:36
  tomman
  good question
• 23:36
  tomman
  it's HTTPS-only
• 23:36
  njsg
  (but really, can you? ... ok, then you likely can't)
• 23:36
  tomman
  so you at least need a proxy
• 23:36
  tomman
  wait, didn't I built Mosaic once?
• 23:37
  tomman
  ...not on this computer, it seems
• 23:37
  njsg
  I don't recall if mosaic-ck had anything for ssl; for proxying, perhaps jwz has something, or was that just for "Host:"?
• 23:37
  njsg
  oh, I have it built, yes...
• 23:37
  njsg
  somewhere. but I think it still needed adjustments for libpng
• 23:38
  tomman
  github.com/tenox7/wrp or you can cheat massively
• 23:40
  tomman
  github.com/atauenis/webone - .NET required
• 23:41
  tomman
  superuser.com/questions/1487553/pro…intage-browsers-before-https-era-wi
• 23:41
  tomman
  now I'm tempted to plug my 386sx and have some DOS fun with Arachne