00:02:23 <IanN_Away> tomman: people were worried
00:02:55 <tomman> IanN_Away: was visiting family and the only thing I could bring was my cellphone :/
00:03:23 <tomman> and they had very spotty DSL, and I hate cellphones
00:03:45 <tomman> on the flip side,I managed to salvage a ThinkPad T40~
00:03:56 <tomman> ...with a dying HDD, and dead batteries
00:06:03 <IanN_Away> soon to have new SSD and new batteries?
00:06:19 <tomman> both are unobtanium here :/
00:06:49 <tomman> (the HDD is IDE, so no good choices on our market, and the batteries are long out of production... even fake ones)
00:07:07 <tomman> surprisingly I DID managed to find 1GB DDR1 SODIMMs, new even!
00:07:45 <tomman> also have a spare 802.11n miniPCI WLAN card, but I need to flash a modded BIOS (or McGyver the CMOS battery, as that one is dead)
00:08:16 <tomman> apparently these were the final ones without Windows keys, and pure IBM designs
00:08:48 <tomman> oh, Linux distros want PAE, so I need to swap the CPU too
00:09:41 <IanN_Away> other than that, it is perfect?
00:16:35 <tomman> Well, I'm no fan of the nipple, but hey, free bento box, er, Thinkpad!
01:00:57 <frg_Away> tomman Still have a ton of T4x parts I will never need again. Unfortunately shipping would be a killer I think.
01:01:13 <tomman> frg_Away: bummer :/
01:01:46 <tomman> I'm still surprised that I could find 1GB DDR1 sticks (which were unobtanium even back when they were new here) for $10 a piece
01:01:58 <tomman> new, sealed in their blisters (those were Kingston with Samsung chips)
01:02:52 <frg_Away> tomman I like the T42p most. Set it up with Windows 98se OS/2 and XP. Would even run 7 but max is 2 GB. Had to patch 98se.
01:02:56 <tomman> thankfully these were in the same city where I was visiting, so it was just matter of taking the bus
01:03:31 <tomman> isn't the T40/T41/T42 the same? (from what little I could read - only the T43 is quite different inside)
01:03:46 <tomman> at least mine has the Radeon
01:06:09 <frg_Away> tomman T42p has the FireGL T42 the 9600 I think. You can get recent drivers for them. T40 only had the 7500 which had only has very old drivers for Windows.
01:09:51 <frg_Away> tomman If it is a 14" they are fragile. Graphics chip becomes loose over time because of flexing. They put glue on the BGA corners to keep it in place in the later versions. I prefer the 15" because of it.
01:10:03 <tomman> mine is a 14, indeed
01:10:39 <tomman> also need to swap the WLAN card, as the one on those is ancient 802.11b stuff that won't even work for more than half an hour last time I bothered testing
01:10:58 <frg_Away> tomman 2915 is the best for it.
01:11:04 <tomman> already have checked my options for dealing with the 1802 error aka "Genuine IBM Parts Only"
01:11:18 <tomman> I have an MiniPCI Atheros 802.11n somewhere
01:11:35 <frg_Away> I think I put a modde bios in.
01:11:52 <tomman> yeah, it's either Middleton BIOS or the CMOS hax
01:13:18 <tomman> so... I already have sorted out RAM and WLAN
01:14:00 <tomman> HDD of course is a pain zone: IDE SSDs just don't exist anymore, CompactFlash is a no fly zone here, and PATA-to-SD adapters are not an option here either :/
01:14:06 <frg_Away> tomman have "IBM Thinkpad T42 1ruj37us Lenovo 2.1 SLIC.zip" if you need it. I think it is good for a T40 too.
01:14:32 <tomman> even used/healthy PATA laptop drives are rare
01:14:40 <tomman> frg_Away: lemme check which one I got
01:15:04 <frg_Away> tomman have a few Hitachi and WD ones up to 160 GB but there we are with shipping again.
01:21:57 <frg_Away> tomman can send up to 2k for about $10 it seems. The question is if it would arrive intact. If you want I can mail something inexpensive like ram first as a test. Happy to donate.
01:22:18 <frg_Away> 2kg not 2k
01:22:47 <tomman> last time I bothered with international donations, I got an empty envelope from England (after two successful shippings!)
01:23:00 <tomman> but that was circa 2006)
01:23:34 <tomman> I still miss those 4MB 30-pin SIMMs :/
01:26:01 <frg_Away> I usually toss 512MB DDR1 and 1GB DDR2/DDR3 SO Dimms these days. Not much good for Thinkpads any more with the latest supported Windows versions.
01:28:33 <frg_Away> tomman If you want me to try send my your address via email. I am a bit busy in the next week or two but should manage.
05:00:55 <NewTobinParadigm> hey.. are there any source trees u'd like indexed on my cross reference?
05:03:09 <NewTobinParadigm> it is indexing right now but there doesn't seem to be a proper trunk for that repo that is staying up to date so unless that changes i will have to check every once in a while and update the branches for your releases
05:03:10 <NewTobinParadigm> http://xr.binaryoutcast.com/comm-sm2.53/source/
05:03:30 <NewTobinParadigm> should look familar eh?
05:48:43 <NewTobinParadigm> hi tonymec|away
08:23:55 <njsg> tomman: PAE should be optional, shouldn't it?
08:26:43 <njsg> tomman: if all else fails, what about plain SD? not optimal, but it might still provide something
17:26:19 <NewTobinParadigm> so frg_Away any plans to have a proper trunk/master on the git repo that i can index for you using my hack of a hack of a hack on lxr
17:28:13 <frg_Away> No. We are working with a base and a patch queue. Made a bunch of stuff already permanent but remaing stuff is too much in flux with all the backports.
17:29:02 <NewTobinParadigm> well i can stick to indexing the release branch just a trunk would make it so it can be by cron job
17:29:19 <NewTobinParadigm> would earlier comm releases help at all?
17:29:45 <NewTobinParadigm> or just plain comm-central?
17:30:48 <NewTobinParadigm> comm-central i can keep updated by cron and historical versions i can just index and forget
17:30:55 <NewTobinParadigm> so let me know what might be of use
17:54:17 <frg_Away> The master and default branches of both gitlab and heptapod will be kept in sync but they both will need the patch queues added. Gitlab will have the releases in branches. Might only make sense to have the latest release branch available.
18:04:05 <NewTobinParadigm> sure.. just will have to fetch and switch branches manually when they happen
18:04:12 <NewTobinParadigm> i already have it that way here http://xr.binaryoutcast.com/comm-sm2.53/
18:04:18 <NewTobinParadigm> if it helps at all.. use it
18:05:54 <NewTobinParadigm> had to make a few fixups for almalinux's perl and luckily enough glimpse just.. runs.. i need to build or find someone to build a proper updated package for it though
18:08:04 <NewTobinParadigm> also later this year work on transitioning more parts to php execution .. pretty much the only thing I can't easily replicate in php at this time is the actual source file view on-the-fly identifer linking, the linking on search results (which is less important) and identifer search entirely.. free text search using glimpse or perhaps something NOT abandoned is doable, directory listing is doable, and filename search is
18:08:04 <NewTobinParadigm> doable reletively easily
18:10:21 <NewTobinParadigm> now that I was purged by the Pale Moon project I can actually focus on getting more done without having to try and hold that place together
18:10:37 <NewTobinParadigm> so really even what they did to me is an overall benefit
18:11:10 <NewTobinParadigm> with that said, I would like to apologize for /MOST/ of the shit I did and say when I was with them
20:36:51 <tomman> lovely blackouts...
20:51:12 <frg_Away> tomman just done so you can watch the stars.
20:51:34 <tomman> took the chance to max out the RAM and add some 802.11n love to the T40
20:51:45 <tomman> now... WXP's DHCP client is going stupid
20:52:08 <tomman> for whatever reason it refuses to get a lease (with the ol' 2100 WLAN it DID worked, but only once!)
20:52:45 <tomman> also had to downgrade the wired LAN driver (E1000) because it breaks ipconfig otherwise
20:53:39 <tomman> oh, took care of the depleted CMOS battery: to whoever came up with the idea of tabbed CR20xx's: ROT IN HELL, pretty please?
20:54:58 <tomman> carefully tear apart the soldered tabs from the dead CR2032, reuse as much isolation material from the dead one as possible, use enough sticky tape, done.
20:55:22 <tomman> (been doing that for years as tabbed batteries are unobtanium here too)
21:18:31 <tomman> ...one of the RAMs has a single-bit error :/
21:18:54 <tomman> I guess I'll have to write off those $10, as it would cost me exactly that to RMA it
21:19:18 <tomman> (buying a new one to the same seller is now $10 + ~$5 shipping)
21:42:52 <frg_Away> tomman seems I have two 1 GB 2700 and a few 512 MB left for the T4x.
23:27:57 <tomman> oh, the DHCP issue was on my end
23:27:59 <tomman> D'OH!
23:28:44 <tomman> (turns out the spare WLAN card was at one point on my ol' HP laptop, and I had setup a fixed DHCP lease for that - now I had a nice IP conflict on my network!)