17:26:59 <therube> on my end, Win7, FF 99 is extremely slow to start up - compared to FF 98 & earlier
17:30:21 <therube> Safe Mode is faster, but it's hard to say if it might be "pre-loading" or not ? because even though you supply a -safe-mode command line switch, it STILL prompts you with a dialog box with an Open button before FF actually loads.  (now isn't that smart)
17:32:12 <therube> disabling hardware acceleration makes no difference
17:45:14 <frg_Away> therube wrong channel :)
17:45:51 <therube> yeah, i know. just babbling...
17:46:50 <frg_Away> therube With webrender they are now running into probably every driver issue which exists so make sure you have the latest drivers.
17:47:42 <frg_Away> I also think I saw a new Intel block for HD 3000 or earlier but that was for 8.1 if I am not mistaken.
17:50:08 <therube> gfx.webrender.all, true or false, makes no difference.
17:50:51 <therube> this contraption here has Intel HD 4000 (& or, maybe, not sure, AMD HD 7650A)
17:52:22 <therube> about:support indicates its using hd4000
18:01:04 <frg_Away> therube was for 100 not 99: Bug 1761332
18:01:24 <frg_Away> Bug 1760464 and also 8 not 7
18:12:01 <therube> frg_Away: nightly (101a) loads fine.  suggestion as to what i might tweak for 99 ?
18:12:28 <therube> fission.autostart;false did not help.
18:13:50 <frg_Away> therube I do not have a recent Firefox installed. Only version from our 2.53 tree for a/b testing. Sorry can't help. That was the only bug I noticed.
18:22:49 <therube> oops.  i was wrong (or it changed).  FF nightly too is slow to start up.
18:24:20 <therube> media.gmp-gmpopenh264 got "installed" between "then" & now.
18:25:41 <therube> no difference.
18:26:56 <frg_Away> therube well I rather turn the "helpful" new features off which now pop up with every new version of CrEdge. At least I know this one is crap but at least it works with incompatible sites.
18:33:45 <frg_Away> therube I also saw an awful lot of patches for pushing advertizing stuff to raise money and experiments. Didn't look a the details. Check if some system add-ons or other stuff gobbles up network bandwidth at start to populate the newtab crap.
18:34:37 <therube> yeah, i believe i turned all that crap off, from the get-go (using new profiles all around)
20:37:17 <therube> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1763703
20:58:32 <frg_Away> Bill did an early 2.53.13b1 pre build today so if you have a website which is broken because of the missing nullish coalesce operator support (??) in earlier versions please test.
21:23:09 <WG9s> builds are at https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/ like it says in the topic.