13:32:08 <IanN> Status meeting starts in 28 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-04-03
13:44:10 <IanN> hi WaltS48
13:44:23 <IanN> Status meeting starts in 16 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-04-03
13:46:00 <frg> Hi WaltS48
13:52:18 <IanN> Status meeting starts in 8 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-04-03
13:55:11 <njsg> hi .*
13:55:27 <frg> Hi njsg
13:56:17 <WaltS48> Hi IanN, frg and all.
13:57:37 <rsx11m> Hi IanN, frg njsg and WaltS48
13:57:44 <IanN> hi rsx11m
13:57:49 <frg> Hi rsx11m
13:59:39 <WaltS48> Hi rsx11m
13:59:45 <WG9s> hi WaltS48 and rsx11m
14:00:00 <WaltS48> Hi WG9s
14:00:00 <rsx11m> Hi WG9s
14:00:04 <IanN> Status meeting time - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-04-03
14:00:11 <IanN> Who's taking minutes?
14:02:17 <rsx11m> frg takes a nap, apparently ...
14:02:33 <frg> me. Sorry
14:02:44 <frg> Was looking at a patch for review.
14:02:59 <rsx11m> 8-)
14:03:54 <IanN> thanks frg
14:03:58 <IanN> Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
14:04:35 <frg> I nominate ewong for release work
14:04:37 <WG9s> second
14:04:41 <rsx11m> always
14:05:52 <IanN> thanks
14:05:59 <IanN> Action Items
14:06:12 <frg> Bothing new from me.
14:06:48 <frg> ^Nothing
14:06:57 <IanN> nothing new from me either
14:07:10 <IanN> Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure
14:08:27 <frg> Nothing new I think. Builders updated to rust 1.58.1 for the release but that was done last time already. Windows builder is now at latest VS2019 level too.
14:11:09 <IanN> Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree
14:13:07 <frg> All building. Compiler support for 2.53 changed. clang 4 and gcc < 7..3 are no longer supported because of c++17 requirement. I might desupport clang 5 and 6 too. Really ancient und untested.
14:14:05 <frg> 2.53 code does currently not compile in c++17 mode. We are on it.
14:14:40 <frg> gtk2 is no longer a requirement. Myckel is working on python 3 support.
14:16:48 <frg> WG9s just fixed up central again so still building. Not doing much with 2.57 but it might no longer be needed with 2.53 progressing. We can reuse the version number maybe later if true. Just want to keep it for now. Not sure how you all see it but I don't have time for 3 trees.
14:17:07 <IanN> an orchard?
14:17:34 <frg> IanN but not a graveyard
14:18:18 <frg> :)
14:18:55 <frg> It would be easier if they hand't reformatted 2.57 and made it incompaible with almost aynthing else.
14:19:06 <frg> ^hadn't
14:20:37 <IanN> Release Train
14:20:49 <frg> Btw. if you set dom.webcomponents.customelements.enabled and dom.webcomponents.enabled to true in 2.53 gitlab and github almost work now. Not recvommended for everyday use.
14:21:46 <frg> Finalized the 2.53.12b1 source more or less. Some reviews mssing. Me bad reviewer...
14:21:54 <IanN> 2.53.12 Beta 1 is coming soon
14:22:24 <frg> Hope to do it today but the beta might miss a few strings if we start building maybe next weekend?
14:23:51 <frg> Will switch versions to 2.53.13b1 pre today so that we can put in patches for the next one. Filed bug 1762781 to have a bug number only.
14:24:08 <IanN> yeah, sometime between now and then :)
14:24:11 <frg> 2.53.12b1 is Bug 1750406
14:26:04 <IanN> Extensions Tracking
14:27:17 <frg> NPAPI plugin support is now truly gone. The plugin section is now hidden in the add-on manager. If we ever support eme it will pop up magically again. Showing now depends on installed plugins.
14:30:48 <IanN> frg: thanks for all the hard work
14:31:50 <frg> IanN Myckel helped with backporting the patches. It was worth it. I find 2.53.12b1 pre a bit snappier with all the backports including npapi.
14:32:07 <frg> Or wishful thinking :)
14:32:55 <IanN> we like wishful
14:33:33 <IanN> 2.Next, Feature List, Planning and Roundtable
14:35:06 <frg> Plan to do working on optional chaing. Too many websites break now because of it. But not sure if I am able to pull it off. Wanted first to put more stuff in but time is running out here I think.
14:35:50 <frg> So needs extensive rebases and I hope everything elase is already in or can be worked around.
14:36:14 <frg> Clonclusion. Don't get you hopes up.
14:37:16 <IanN> all we can do is keep chipping away at it
14:38:22 <frg> Ass staed a few times already unfortunately an useful feature so I can't even rant about usage :)
14:39:32 <IanN> yeah
14:39:47 <IanN> AOB
14:40:35 <frg> bau but need to cut back a little soon or it will be short work with my new work next month.
14:42:01 <IanN> next meeting is in 2 weeks time
14:42:02 <frg> rsx11m can you maybe copy my personal section with the initial meeting notes. I promise to change it but makes it easer to keep track :)
14:42:18 <IanN> same bat channel, same bat time
14:42:20 <rsx11m> ok, no problem
14:42:30 <IanN> thanks for your time today
14:42:46 <rsx11m> see you next time!
14:42:51 <frg> holy meeting time!
14:43:17 <rsx11m> oh, yes - the 17th is Easter Sunday
14:43:29 <frg> That too :)
14:43:30 <njsg> any need to check the meeting time again?
14:43:49 <njsg> last time I was just looking at what looked like the previous DST decision
14:43:59 <njsg> but I could easily have overlooked something
14:44:25 <rsx11m> well, I tried to highlight it in the invitations *** hopefully that worked for everybody
14:44:55 <frg> seems the usual subjects got it.
14:45:28 <rsx11m> maybe in a century or so they'll get rid of it ;-)
14:45:53 <IanN> yeah, is everyone okay meeting on 17th?
14:46:09 <rsx11m> ok here
14:46:25 <WaltS48> yes
14:46:26 <frg> I am ok with it. 24th is eV meeting so I don't want to reschedule.
14:48:11 <njsg> ok here too
14:48:50 <njsg> (sorry for the lag)
14:49:46 <rsx11m> see you on the 17th then
14:49:52 <rsx11m> bye for now!
14:50:00 <IanN> c u rsx11m
14:50:04 <frg> Yo! bye and still here
18:39:13 <guest_> where is the new archive for the postings ?
22:01:01 <njsg> I take it google is still not showing anything because of the spam posts that were posted through their own service?
22:03:27 <njsg> (that was for mozilla.support.seamonkey, is it me or the new alt.comp.software.seamonkey is not on google groups?)