00:07:20 <tomman> https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/http.html this guy really needs psychiatric help
00:07:51 <tomman> might as well call TCP/IP "spyware", unplug our modems, and throw our computers in the trashcan
00:08:39 <tomman> of course the guy (or gal, or whatever) doesn't even tell what is their definition of spyware
00:08:49 <tomman> ...oh, it does
00:08:57 <tomman> "We define spyware as anything that includes telemetry, phoning home, automatic updates or is listening in without the user's knowledge or consent."
00:09:13 <tomman> that's... not completely true
00:10:06 <tomman> at least the guy uses a non-GiggityHub/Lab code host: https://codeberg.org/shadow/SpywareWatchdog
00:10:16 <tomman> > TypeError: window.customElements is undefined
00:10:17 <tomman> wat
00:10:22 <tomman> ...
00:11:30 <tomman> the next webdev that dares implementing Google WebComponents® must be sent to the war zone with no weapons!
00:14:02 <njsg> if only these things had decent fallback or error handling.
00:28:48 <tomman> ironically these guys are already planning to leave Codeberg because of some ideological differences, not because of the Chromeisms
00:29:06 <tomman> wonder if Gitea also has drank the Chrome kool-aid
00:33:15 <tomman> well, it seems it is still browser-agnostic
00:33:41 <tomman> ...sadly they don't dogfood their own product: they use GitHub for development!
14:27:09 <frg_Away> I wonder what mozilla wants with all these unique ids. They must be good for privacy protection... The toolkit.telemetry.cachedClientID should be all what is needed. It is no longer with us in SeaMonkey 2.53 :)
14:29:23 <frg_Away> There is actually one use of it which is a bit useful. Was tacked to crash reports so if you count specific crashes you can check if they come from one or a few installations only.
14:36:56 <tomman> butbutbut crash reports are spywarez, a paranoid nutter in the NSA said me!
14:42:58 <njsg> did the nutter say anything about CIA's "project facebook"?
14:47:40 <frg_Away> telemetry is useful if you want to identify incompatibility uses with web apis or similiar stuff. But it got completly out of hand and is now used to drive feature removal/addition and replaces interaction with end users. Best example is mozilla itself. They out of touch with power users. Every time an "enhancement" is announced like the recent download meddling with the default handlers ...
14:47:41 <frg_Away> ...you can only groan unless all you do is watching cat videos on youtube. But in the case you are probably on Chrome already.