14:31:26 Status meeting starts in 29 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-02-06 14:46:17 hi WaltS48 14:46:24 Status meeting starts in 14 minutes - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-02-06 14:46:31 Hi IanN 14:46:49 Hi WaltS48 14:47:02 Hi frg 14:54:39 hi WaltS48 14:55:08 Hi WG9s_ 14:56:42 Anybody have a Samsung smartphone that keeps giving alerts, but when you go to look nothing is there? 14:58:21 I have one for work, but don't use it enought to notice that sort of thing 14:59:31 hi .* 14:59:36 Well, all it needs is to be on for me. Not using it. 14:59:51 Sitting on my desk 14:59:56 hi N 14:59:59 Hi njsg 15:00:02 him njsg 15:00:30 Status meeting time - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-02-06 15:01:28 WaltS48 make a wide berth around samsung usually :) 15:02:05 how far ferom the desk are you and do you have a smart phone? 15:02:05 Who's taking minutes? 15:02:15 me and probably late again 15:02:24 i meant smat watch 15:02:39 could be alerting on the watch going in and out of bluetooth range 15:03:20 Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank 15:03:30 I nominate frg 15:04:35 is he worthy of it? :) 15:04:55 frg: most definitely 15:05:06 frg: not so sure about frg_away though 15:05:16 WG9s_: No smart watch or bluetooth that I'm aware of. 15:05:28 well then second 15:05:41 I'll third 15:07:18 thanks 15:08:05 Action Items 15:08:59 Nothing new from me. 15:11:08 nor me 15:11:20 Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure 15:13:13 Nothing new on the Windows builder site. Next VS2022 17.1 will probably appear Tuesday for the patch day but the current VS2019 seems to be very stable so not plan to change it for 2.53.12 15:13:37 urgh, forgot it was patch Tuesday this week 15:13:51 WG9s tested the latest rust versions and so did I and might switch to rust 1.58.1 for the next release. 15:16:15 Thanks 15:16:17 Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree 15:17:52 All building I think. 2.57 is still on the backburner. managed to fix it to use rust 1.38 but much higher is still broken because of bindgen errors. 15:19:00 2.53 has about 1000 new patches and I am working on stylo support. A bit further but need to shift to something elase to keep my sanity. Rust is bad for your health :) 15:19:27 Very fragile stuff and still unstable alpha level but nothing new here. 15:20:08 thanks for all the work frg 15:20:23 you can keep rust away with periodic oil~ 15:20:57 oh, and don't breathe it! 15:21:25 We need to fix up the patch queue but that is something internally. It is now a bit more stable and we can make more stuff permanent. 15:21:39 Release Train 15:22:00 tomman at this stage it needs an excorcist. 15:23:13 No bugs filed against 2.53.11b1 and have not seen complaints so build time for the final soon I think. Will look at 91.6 sec bug to include. One is already in and have not seen many others. 15:23:34 so 2.53.11b1 was released last weekend 15:23:50 90% of them theses days seem to be regression fixes which does not mean the source is good otherwise :) 15:25:27 Anyone using gmx and 2.53.x with a pop account? 15:26:04 There seems to be a problem fixed in Bug 1752397 15:26:34 2.53.11 will be the next release in a few weeks (all things being equal) 15:28:27 I would shoot for in about 14 days may but lets see. 15:29:13 frg: comment 0 mentions that fetching when starting won't work, any chance that could also fix issues with other providers? I think something like that was mentioned on a couple occasions, at least once in the newsgroup 15:29:35 (not something I've seen personally, I'm not using POP3) 15:30:04 I tend to use IMAP 15:30:13 njsg fix is in 2.53.12b1 pre but didn't test with gmx yet. Using imap but can use my parents account which is basically unused for testing. 15:31:33 news://news.aioe.org/st30jc$rta$1⊙gao news://news.aioe.org/st5s9m$2du$1⊙dm 15:32:54 I have seen this one but the user used an invalid email so hard to check. 15:35:38 Extensions Tracking 15:35:50 I'm not aware of any updates 15:36:38 Nothing new here. I still plan to rip out legacy generators next. npapi frontend stuff will be gone in 2.53.12 too. 15:37:04 Bug 1688415 15:41:29 IanN should bug 815954 be closed? In the unlikely event that eme is made working even then it does not use it unless I am mistaken. 15:42:17 frg: i'd have to research it 15:43:14 IanN In a Firefox build from 2.53 code it is activated or disabled. Everything else is grayed out. Think gone from central too. 15:44:16 frg: do they now use something else? 15:44:30 IanN no 15:45:59 https://ibb.co/M7QKfLq 15:47:07 Don't have a later Fx installed but should be the same. 15:47:31 frg: need to check what distros do but I'd say remove it too 15:48:27 IanN backends still needs cleanup for npapi and will go with it then. 15:48:46 frg: thanks 15:51:01 2.Next, Feature List, Planning & Roundtable 15:52:44 bau. On this and then that and then these... 15:53:28 ditto 15:55:48 AOB? 15:57:23 Next meeting in 2 weeks time 15:57:32 Nothing from me 15:57:39 thanks for your time today 15:57:57 same bat channel, same bat time for next one 15:59:18 holy almost spring then :) 15:59:31 ... I hope but a bit early. 16:00:43 just enjoying the extra minutes of daylight every day 16:00:56 Spring isn't until I can put my Winter coat and scarf away. Sometimes that's in May. 16:01:43 Winter starts when I have to put them on. Sometimes in September. :( 16:03:15 WaltS48: sounds like you have only 3 seasons :) 16:03:30 IanN: better than Soviet Venezuela 16:03:35 where we only have two seasons 16:03:38 Only two 16:03:41 "scorching summer in Hell" and "rain" 16:04:04 and lately, the "rain" season only lasts a few weeks at most 16:04:44 I can't hate a season because I hate weather. There are some really nice days though. 17:28:36 would it be better to just use the 2.53.10.2 state as the base? 17:28:45 like base it off the last release? 17:29:25 but then if doing that could really just take the source tarball and creat a hg repo based on that 17:30:47 wrolng channel