14:31:15 <frg> Meeting in 30 minutes https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-01-23
14:45:13 <frg> Meeting in 15 minutes https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-01-23
14:51:59 <frg> Hi WaltS48
14:52:16 <WaltS48> Hi frg
14:56:28 <frg> Meeting in 4 minutes https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-01-23
14:57:20 <IanN> hi WaltS48
14:57:37 <WG9s> Hi all here for the meeting
14:57:58 <WaltS48> Hi IanN and WG9s
14:58:10 <WG9s> hi WaltS48
14:59:13 <IanN> hi WG9s
14:59:27 <WG9s> hi IanN
15:01:02 <IanN> Oops, hit the sleep button on my keyboard by accident
15:01:22 <frg> zzzzz
15:01:33 <IanN> Meeting time - https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2022-01-23
15:01:43 <WG9s> IanN and do you even have a cat to blame that on?
15:02:02 <WG9s> hi rsx11m
15:02:07 <IanN> WG9s: no just fat fingers and not even knowing I had such a key
15:02:11 <WG9s> just in time for the meeting
15:02:21 <IanN> hi rsx11m
15:02:23 <frg> Hi rsx11m
15:02:29 <rsx11m> hi all!
15:02:44 <IanN> Who's taking minutes?
15:02:46 <frg> rsx11m hope vacation was nice and late happy new year
15:02:52 <frg> me do
15:03:11 <rsx11m> Happy new year as well!
15:03:19 <IanN> ta frg
15:03:22 <rsx11m> and yes, vacation was good 8-)
15:03:28 <IanN> rsx11m: seasons greetings
15:03:46 <IanN> Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
15:03:57 <frg> njsg for helping with testing, triaging bugs and doing patches
15:04:11 <IanN> seconded
15:05:11 <IanN> Action Items
15:05:46 <frg> nothing new from me
15:06:55 <WG9s> IU h9ope to get to seeting up a logging for our channels this week.
15:07:03 <WG9s> with a real certificate
15:07:28 <IanN> WG9s: thanks
15:07:56 <IanN> Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure
15:08:39 <frg> crash submission now works thanks to ewong. Display is still not working for most stuff but improving.
15:09:10 <frg> I plan to update the builder to Vs2019 11.9 and mozbuild 3.4 for 2.533.11b1.
15:10:05 <frg> 16.11.9 has some compiler fixes. Not sure if the few crash problmes with 2.53.10.2 might caused by this but don't think so.
15:11:46 <IanN> have to see
15:12:13 <IanN> Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree
15:12:46 <frg> All building I think
15:15:32 <IanN> Release Train
15:16:37 <frg> 2.53.11b1 is a bit deplayed. I just finished merging l10n back to our tree. I think building will start very soon.
15:16:46 <frg> ^delayed
15:19:47 <IanN> 2.53.11 probably in around 3 weeks time
15:20:21 <IanN> Extensions Tracking
15:20:24 <frg> region.properties in central was removed. If we catch up we need to fix this. Fix for it is braindead and TB only. Sorry to say but that is how I see it.
15:20:26 * WG9s likes deplayed sounds like the deploy was delayed ;-)
15:20:50 <frg> Was a late addition for source tree :)
15:21:56 <frg> Might take out the legacy generators for 2.53.12b1. Just didn't want to for the current release.
15:22:28 <frg> So this might affect extensions but as stated last time I think it is already broken.
15:24:23 <IanN> 2.Next, Feature List, Planning and Roundtable
15:26:02 <WG9s> AllI have I already said plan to try to get irc logging on my webserver with a valid certificate so it can use https
15:26:43 <WG9s> everyting else I was doing is more or less done so I can concentrate on that.
15:26:44 <frg> bau. Plan to add the last 57a1 patches soon and then move on with selected 58 stuff and build fixes.
15:26:53 <IanN> i've had a busy 2 weeks non-SM wise, hope to get more done in the coming weeks
15:27:28 <frg> IanN I noticed :)
15:28:06 <frg> Therer is a chance that I need to "dial down" SeaMonkey work in May.
15:28:44 <WG9s> Seems wee seem to do well even though this is not any of ours real job
15:29:35 <frg> Yeahh. But no doom on the horizon just less does :)
15:29:50 <frg> ^being done
15:30:09 <WG9s> I have found it hard to get time to do oirc logging even though I am retired and have no real job.
15:32:32 <WG9s> This is why I made sure my latest buiilds are on archive.mozilla.org and ftp.mozilla.org in case I have to take my server down to reconfigure my file system on hard drives to get the logging working.
15:33:31 <rsx11m> don't break the building stuff... :-/
15:33:44 <frg> The current 2.53.12b1 pre is basically the 2.53.11b1 with a few unimportant wip patches in so you can already test if you want. Installing the real 2.53.11b1 over todays build is possible.
15:35:08 <WG9s> and the posted langpaks are what is planned to be 2.53.b1 thanks to frg's efforts
15:36:30 <frg> If you find missing translations it is because they are not in central. so feel free to help out with l10n on pontoon.
15:39:10 <IanN> AOB
15:42:14 <WG9s> nothing from me
15:42:25 <IanN> ok
15:42:33 <IanN> thanks for your time today
15:42:46 <IanN> next meeting is 2 weeks time, same bat time, same bat channel
15:42:55 <rsx11m> yepp
15:43:17 <frg> see you
15:43:23 <rsx11m> dto
15:43:28 <IanN> c u rsx11m
15:43:33 <rsx11m> dto2
15:43:59 <rsx11m> c u WG9s
15:44:14 <WG9s> c u also rsx11m
19:38:17 <jez9999> hello.  is there any way to get SeaMonkey Mail to allow me to inspect an SSL certificate when i'm connecting a mail server and the certificate is good?  when it's bad, there's a popup allowing it to be viewed, but obviously the default behaviour when it's good is to just go ahead with mail collection.
19:45:46 <frg_Away> jez9999 don't think there is an obvious menu point for it. secure icon in the statusbar is not shown for mail.
19:47:03 <IanN_Away> check if there is a bug already open for it