12:28:04 https://batsov.com/articles/2021/11/28/firefox-is-the-only-alternative/ of course, people NEVER mention alternative browsers 12:28:18 UNLESS they're Chrome skins 12:28:31 "Supposedly today we have a lot of browsers to choose from - Google Chrome, Safari, Microsoft Edge, Firefox, Brave, Opera, Vivaldi, etc. Having choices is a good thing, right?" 12:28:47 let me rephrase that: Chrome, Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Chrome, Chrome, Chrome, etc. 12:30:27 also, the guy completely neglected to mention the REAL reasons Firefox went down the gutter 12:30:38 "Firefox losing its status of a shiny new thing over the years." 12:30:45 that's what a webdev would say 12:31:04 no user ever said "oh, my web browser could benefit from a coat of glossy shiny" 13:08:35 the same might apply to laptops, I guess 13:19:50 /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER sealogbot 2riENRyKshEH1D7l 13:20:07 I suggest you choose a new password :D 13:22:57 that's not a password 13:23:38 one-time key, I think? 13:27:37 damn, that's the combination of my luggage! 13:28:10 oops 13:28:23 sorry did hthis incorrectly 13:35:30 actually bad registration verification email when you copy the string form the email it contains a space before the / 14:05:51 * WG9s thinks it is wrong that the verification link contains the password in plan text is extremely lame because it also means your password is in plain text on google servers. 14:18:22 don't worry, the CIA/NSA/KGB/FSB/GCHQ/CCP/Kim/FAANGs/MANGAs/bored 12yo "hacker" teens at Eastern Bumcrapistania/Jeff Bezos' secretary already have your private keys, and even copies of the keys of your gun safe 14:23:16 * njsg looks at the list and notes the absence of the Institute for Intelligence and Special Operations 15:26:04 I'm pretty sure the 'VERIFY REGISTER' password is a just an activation code; the password is provided beforehand with REGISTER and its security depends on whether your IRC connection is over TLS. 15:59:52 FoxMcCloud45: that was my thought so why do they send an eamil out with the plaintext password and require you to send it back in plain text to verify 16:01:02 seems to my like a lot on uncrypted passwords going across the internet for no apparent purpose! 16:01:28 WG9s: Well, it's just a code they send you to verify your email address in order to make sure it exists, is joignable and is the user's address...? 16:02:04 Most websites do the same thing for verification; a verification URL is just as insecure as a "plaintext code". 16:02:16 no the verification link they send out includes the palin text password and they require you to replay with that included 16:02:26 9n an unencrypted email 16:02:48 I'm pretty sure it's not a password...? 16:02:54 is this how nickserv works or is this a libera.chat stupidity? 16:03:36 You type your password upon REGISTER only; the code you get through e-mail is only used once to verify your email address 16:03:58 You don't use the email's code for SASL or NickServ IDENTIFY 16:05:32 FoxMcCloud45: the email they send back includes your palintext user name and requires you to send it back to verify 16:05:50 it has the username and a verification code, the code is a one-time code 16:05:55 Yeah, the nickname itself is in the email 16:05:59 since i already changed the passowrk I will post the email here 16:06:46 Not sure why they ask it back but afaik the email's code doesn't log you in 16:07:32 Fox hmm i must have messed up more that i thought they nither sent nor asked for the passord not sure now what I accidently posted and where I copy-pasted badly form 16:08:06 looks like it was all my fault 16:08:06 when you registered that account you probably had to provide an e-mail address 16:08:18 and then they require you to verify, you probably got an e-mail about that 16:08:25 verify the e-mail address, that is 16:08:53 yes I thoujgt what I accidently posted was something I copied and pasted from that email but I went back and found it and it was not 16:09:13 please just call me stupid and ignore all i have said on this subject 16:11:31 My background is in IT security and I find I should think something is wrong ad do an alert before determining it was my fault is the better approach. better to alert on a false alarm than to miss something important. 16:12:03 but that is jut my opion, I could be wrong! (appolgies to Dennis Miller) 16:59:54 looks like WG9s is still throwing a babybitch fit about anything and everything.. I merely was an excuse cause today it is nickserv's verify code 17:00:19 such an angry personality 18:02:37 NewTobinParadigm: am an op on this site so I could ban you so I would pick your iaaues more carefully. 18:03:09 this isn't a site.. it is an irc channel 18:03:36 FU i am ignoring you 18:03:47 i thought you did that already 18:04:09 no i should have but tdecided not to 18:04:25 when you pointlessly iprouted me to hell on your personal website for no reason 18:04:40 so angry 18:04:51 NewTobinParadigm: same reason\ 18:05:30 I don't GO to your personal site nor would I do the same for you for petty reasons. I suggest you do as other suggested and calm down. 18:05:43 NewTobinParadigm: good news it is almost my birthday whn I annualy revoke any such bans and hope pople become more reasonable 18:06:22 So because your unverified claims of things I wasn't doing wasn't successful in silencing me all you can do is ban someone? 18:06:58 And you freak out about something unrelated and when commented on you have to curse and get super mad? 18:07:30 WG9s: Might want to target yourself as someone who needs to become more reasonable. 20:05:21 Hello, with support from this group, I managed to compile the current version 2.53.10 for CPUs that do not understand SSE2 instructions. Thanks once more. A german description and the binary is on my homepage. http://www.hiereth.de/programm/2007sm.html. In principle, a translation in English would be possible but would need proofreading by a native speaker. In https://seamonkeyde.wordpress.com/202 20:05:23 0/06/23/seamonkey-ohne-sse2-kompilieren/comment-page-1/#comment-2240 , the is a link towards the page. In case anyone here thinks that these information should be spread wider, mention a place where somebody might search for it. Please ignore that my computer is a fossil. I know it :-) 20:09:18 mlh85386 Did I tell you yet that your computer is a fossil :D 20:09:22 mlh85386: well done 20:11:00 mlh85386: awesome~! 20:11:08 retrocomputers FTW 20:11:24 I should try building SM someday... 20:11:48 frg_away: maybe something like that. But he ignored it as well and continues doing his jobs. 20:12:34 maybe if we force people to use fossil PCs, we would find a cure to software bloat 20:12:59 and not just "buy more MHz/download more RAM" 20:13:41 tomman: just a couple of days ago, somebody updated the description how to build SM: https://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/code-development 20:14:09 the oldest machine I run here is my routerbox 20:14:15 a 1997-vintage Pentium MMX 20:14:20 the capacitors are on its last legs 20:14:27 but here is she, trucking along~~~ 20:16:48 tomman I am fond of not so ancient Westmeres. Just reassembed another X8DAi which I got cheap for testing. Great board and still a milestone after 11 years. Just a spare I got cheap but still running my backup server on one with Server 2016 and Opensuse 15.3. 20:17:18 my TV box is a Northwood P4 on a IBM ThinkCentre M51 chassis 20:17:33 once again, back when IBM meant Built Tough™ and not "Made of Chinesium" 20:33:29 mlh85386: (SeaMonkey) | Tools | Translate... ;-) 20:39:34 the rube: I did not know that. But Google did not ask me about the desired language. Therefore the output was as german as the input. Probably it works when used overseas. 20:44:07 therube: In fact. Having an English text, this menu item translates into German. Therefore, I shall be free to write any documentation in Bavarian dialect. Google will help the Germans, the French, the Americans, anyone .. 21:27:27 Fwiw mozillabuild 3.4 seems to be ok for building under Windows https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/libraries/win32/MozillaBuildSetup-3.4.exe 21:27:40 Just a minor bugfix release.