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tomman
oh god KaiOS
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tomman
to set a custom ringtone, I have to install... a file explorer app from the store
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tomman
WHY
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tomman
and of course, I can't preview tones that way
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tomman
once again, even lowly Motorolas and Nokias from 2005 could easily do it
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njsg
oh reminds me of S40
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tomman
S40 was non-nonsense
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njsg
I think you had to have some ringtone to set a vibrating alarm
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njsg
it has no option to just vibrate
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njsg
cue to me having an empty (as in no sound) mp3 file in the memory card...
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tomman
It looks like whoever designed the KaiOS settings app has never used a cellphone in their lives
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tomman
but then, I could say the same from Android
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njsg
wait, android is for cellphones? you say that like it's supposed to excel at stuff like phone calls and texts
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» njsg notices his blood sarcasm level
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tomman
phone calls? texts? that's for, like, dinosaurs!
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tomman
...and the store broke again because the browser broke again
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njsg
let me guess, the store is actually a webpage loaded in the browser?
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tomman
and the maps app... is a webpage
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tomman
and the file browser... is a wepage
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tomman
and the contacts app... is a webpage
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tomman
and... I managed to break the browser, AGAIN
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tomman
the phone just stops sending/receiving data, requiring a powercycle
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njsg
I think I'm noticing a pattern here
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WG9s
todays linux firefox nightly works very badly
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WG9s
i have to manually open things on a new tab to be able to buy anything
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tomman
....ok, actually cycling WiFi off then on "unstucks" the omnibrowser
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WG9s
i guess it is harder to be scammed if it prevents you from buying anythinf
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WG9s
anything
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tomman
security theater at its finest
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tomman
And... a buggy app can lock you out of the UI, without any way to return to the homescreen OR even turn off/reboot the phone
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tomman
KaiOS made terrible mistakes that no other cellphone platform in existence (from old proprietary dumbphone junk all the way up to iOS/Android) EVER made
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franstam
lol sounds fun tomman
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franstam
also i hate apps that peg cpu to 100% without any indication of what is causing the cpu peg
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tomman
I have spent like 6 hours with this phone, and I already want to commit arson
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tomman
this is a new record
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tomman
not even Android
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tomman
not even old LG dumbphones or anything with Verizon firmware
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franstam
old phones had fantastic battery life
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franstam
apps did 1 thing and 1 thing only
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tomman
not even very early Mediatek dumbphones which were absolute garbage
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tomman
KaiOS, You Only Had. One. Job!
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tomman
well, at least they didn't screwed up wallpaper setup
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tomman
...except that the default homescreen font is white with a very thin shadow, and my favorite dumbphone wallpaper (which I've been using since 2006) is... yellow-ish with other bright colors
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tomman
so the homescreen text is now unreadable
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tomman
yay
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tomman
no way to customize that because screw accesibility
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tomman
please tell me FirefoxOS wasn't THAT bad
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WG9s_
well not that bad. what was bad as the idea that Firefox would be able to compete with Android and IOS phones
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WG9s_
so nothing really wrong with FirefoxOS other than zero market place for it.
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WG9s_
In the day I had a ZTE Firefox phone but no real differentiator between that an an Android phone and way not mainstream
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WG9s_
and an Android ...
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tomman
OK, finally got the GPS working on KusogeOS, er, KaiOS
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tomman
turns out that this phone simply has a weak GPS receiver
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tomman
so I had to go outside
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njsg
could it be it doesn't rely on the mobile data location information?
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tomman
do modern cellphones even bother using A-GPS these days?
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tomman
even dumbphones have a legit GPS receiver, and mobile data location can be unreliable
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tomman
also, fun fact: since KaiOS 2.5 (my phone runs KaiOS 2.5.1.1) is based off FF48, it means no website using Let's Encrypt will open on it
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tomman
that's the source of those scary expired issuer cert warnings
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tomman
and of course neither OEMs nor KaiOS have a solution for that, other than KaiOS 3... which will never happen for 99% of the devices out there
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tomman
sounds familiar?
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tomman
Android doesn't care about expired roots, but Firefox is very strict on that, but on cellphones it means you've got no choice but to suck it up
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njsg
I think at least one of the technologies used for mobile data-based location information is meant to hide the fact that the actual gps fix takes some time to be acquired
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njsg
or are there gps receivers that work well enough that this is not needed at all?