01:03:52 https://news.itsfoss.com/firefox-continuous-decline/ 11:03:34 i think much of it is that there has been many new internet users, and many on mobile, that don't know about firefox 11:56:27 robobox From my point of view I find the article matching my opinion. Probably not the only reason but one of tha main ones. 13:27:36 frg_Away: What article?? 13:28:03 https://news.itsfoss.com/firefox-continuous-decline/ 13:38:45 Thank you. ;-P 13:45:04 Umm!! What's "PC uses tabs against the active window" mean?? 14:03:48 Maniel basically probably means uses a standard layou with menu toolbar and tabs. Or did until MS invented the ribbons. 14:03:56 ^layout 14:08:14 Umm!! O.K., clear as mud .... inless that's what I've got in SM. And what the hell were 'ribbons'?? 14:08:36 I guess my Win7 never had ribbons! 14:08:57 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_%28computing%29 14:25:02 Maniel: I think write.exe might come with it 14:25:37 or is it called wordpad.exe? 14:26:17 oh, and mspaint.exe 14:28:06 Ah!! So 'Ribbon Computing" is like the controls at the top on my Open Office screen, then, is it?? 14:32:33 it's a different interface concept for GUI applications, where instead of the menu bar and button bars you have bigger-sized tabbed bars with a mix of buttons, possibly with different sizes or whose content might change depending on context (I think) 14:32:42 there's probably a much better definition for this :-) 14:39:58 Het! You say 'either', I say 'either' (That saying doesn't really work in a text based environment, but whatever!!) ;-P 14:40:15 s/Het/Hey!! 15:00:15 built-in ribbon support in terminals, I'd want to see how'd that look like 15:01:25 but maybe that shouldn't be controlled by the DTE 16:12:15 ribbons were the reason I stopped using MS Office after 2003 16:12:35 Open/LibreOffice isn't perfect, but at least the UI isn't braindamaged and doesn't consider me a moron 16:12:51 ...not that I like office applications in general, I actually hate them 16:13:27 njsg: on Win7 it's Wordpad and Paint - Notepad thankfully is ribbonless... for now 16:13:52 since Win10, Explorer is also ribbonized 16:14:26 hopefully ribbons will never catch on under Linux, but then, pundits say this could be a reason of why Linux will always be 1%er 16:35:33 there are people who seem to believe there's a need to copy all the trends. It'd be more interesting if some of the programs which get ribbons get these as an option. 16:36:50 tomman: does LaTeX have a ribbon already? 16:37:21 * njsg would not be surprised if there were some package for drawing ribbon UIs somewhere in CTAN 16:37:52 * njsg would also not be surprised if there were some ribbon UI for some emacs 17:02:44 the day someone puts ribbons on nano, that day there will be war 17:38:14 the bar with shortcuts at the bottom doesn't count as a ribbon? :-P 17:48:51 tomman Well if some devs think it is time for an ego trip the war is possibly lost this moment. I am using Libre and while I dislike the ribbons some tasks were done esier in MSO. But overall I always looked for keyboard shortcuts to get rid of later even more brain damages ui. Last version I used at work was 2016 and it was a buggy mess with brain damage. Thankfully got out or would now in... 17:48:53 ...365 hell.