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franstam
fuck chrome and all its crap
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ewong
franstam: no need to use expletives.
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bittin
did help some more with the Swedish translation
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frg_Away
bittin Thanks
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pandakekok9
frg_Away: Btw, thanks for the quick response to that Usenet post of mine about the compatibility indicator, good thing I just thought of accessing my Facebook today, lol
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pandakekok9
68.0 might be a good target too, which is what UXP currently uses
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frg_Away
pandakekok9 Is just a test ballon to see what breaks. My sites are fine it seems. I am trying with 78 right now.
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frg_Away
Btw. compression fix is
Bug 1728996 as of today.
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pandakekok9
yeah, will try 78 as well once I get he new build
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pandakekok9
cool
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frg_Away
I am building now. If it breaks will lower to 68. Waterfox recently switched to it.
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pandakekok9
to be clear, from that bug you're referring to the "compress" method in the Accept-Encoding header, not *compression* in general, right?
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frg_Away
yes pref change as discussed. Will upload the patch later. In cleanup mode today to tie up a few loose ends.
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WG9s_
wasn't that a Springsteen song that stevie complained was not played enough? Thought should have been the song at end of sopranos rather than don't stop believing?
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WG9s_
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frg_Away
78 seems to do the trick for now.
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NewTobinParadigm
I have a question for you. Please disregard the fact it is coming from me.
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NewTobinParadigm
According to the MPL 2.0 is a collection of patch files without being along side a base source bundle or any indication of what specific way to obtain the base source code the patches are based on considered in and of them selves to be the Source Code Form as defined in the license.
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jonadab
NewTobinParadigm: I can't parse that sentence.
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NewTobinParadigm
Ok.. Someone makes changes to the codebase and they release a binary and a series of patch files and nothing else
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jonadab
Ah.
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NewTobinParadigm
no indication where the base source code is what state it is from.. no commit no tag no nothing
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jonadab
You're asking if they have to release the entire codebase, or just the changes.
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jonadab
I see.
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NewTobinParadigm
they never even mentioned it was under the MPL
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NewTobinParadigm
just a repo with patch files saying Mozilla and some binaries
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NewTobinParadigm
is that keeping with the obligations under the MPL
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jonadab
Ok, I understand the question now.
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NewTobinParadigm
ye
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jonadab
I don't know enough about the MPL to answer it, but someone else here might.
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NewTobinParadigm
The Source Code Form is defined as the form prefered for making modifications
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NewTobinParadigm
Mozilla's opinion is Minified Javascript is not a valid Source Code Form because while it contains the entire source obviously it is not very easy for people to make changes in
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NewTobinParadigm
So given that and the nature of patch files .. can patch files in and of them selves be considered the source code form in its entirety
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jonadab
I mean, Javascript _in general_ is not a form of code that I personally want to work with, but you know.
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NewTobinParadigm
irrelevant
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jonadab
Right.
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jonadab
patch files are obviously not (usually) enough to reconstruct the complete source code.
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NewTobinParadigm
yeah
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jonadab
Unless there are included "initial checkin" patch files that basically are a diff against nothing, from when the project started.
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jonadab
Which is how git repos for example usually work.
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NewTobinParadigm
well no nothing just patch files
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NewTobinParadigm
no orginal source no links to orginal source no tags no commits just patch files that HAPPEN to be sitting in a git repo
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NewTobinParadigm
no indication it is MPL and no indication how to obtain the source code
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jonadab
I don't know the ins and outs of the MPL, but that doesn't *sound* to me like it would comply with any share-alike license.
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NewTobinParadigm
it doesn't
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NewTobinParadigm
but these people are arguing it does
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jonadab
If they're a small operation, it could just be ignorance.
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tomman
name and shame
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tomman
that's a clear license violation
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NewTobinParadigm
as that is a basis for a notification of violation i sent to them in 2019 upon which the same person.. the only person doing any work made a very similar violation and I have terminated their grant to my code under Section 5.1 for repeat violations
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tomman
not even a git/whatever commit ID?!
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NewTobinParadigm
Ignorance while not actually an excuse is a valid reason for the FIRST time
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NewTobinParadigm
tomman: no
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NewTobinParadigm
just patch files
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jonadab
I'm not saying ignorance would make it ok; it just changes maybe how you want to correct them.
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tomman
patch files that you're supposed to apply against... thin air, I guess
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NewTobinParadigm
well i allowed them to upload the source code to make it obvious there WAS source code and got on with life
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tomman
yeah, that won't fly
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NewTobinParadigm
3 years later a similar issue happened
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NewTobinParadigm
so I terminated their grant
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tomman
unfortunately it's hard to get licenses enforced unless you're willing to get lawyers involved
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tomman
and that's icky... not to say expensive as hell
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tomman
and from what you're saying, guess you're dealing with one of those special snowflake cases
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NewTobinParadigm
oh they have launched a war against me and got two different subreddits involved... people wishing death on me and everything
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NewTobinParadigm
even though the person in question has complied.. eventually with the termination of the grant and has chosen not to do anything else quite yet.. he is letting any half-crazed passerby fight his battles for him
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NewTobinParadigm
been going 12 days now
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tomman
Leaving aside reputations and stuff, yeah, it's an icky situation
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tomman
sadly this is The Internetâ„¢, where everybody feels entitled to an opinion
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NewTobinParadigm
anyway thanks for your thoughts.. I won't take up anymore time since it IS offtopic to the channel and project.. But the next rights they violate might be yours
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tomman
I would say "lawyer up", but alas, money
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NewTobinParadigm
No comment.
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NewTobinParadigm
;)
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NewTobinParadigm
well the gnutards are always saying this is a SOCIAL PROBLEM
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NewTobinParadigm
maybe we can keep it as such
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NewTobinParadigm
eh?
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tomman
to be fair, it is
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tomman
people being dicks on the Internet is a social problem with many roots
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tomman
but no fixes, unfortunately
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NewTobinParadigm
man an i thought I was a half crazed antisocial lunitic.. you should see these people
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NewTobinParadigm
I can't hold a candle in comparison
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NewTobinParadigm
anyway thanks again!
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NewTobinParadigm
peace.. or some sort of off brand peace like substitute