Oh, cZ finally has a network editor after all these years

COOL!

now finally I can give Rizon the respect it deserves~

its me again, the cry baby... i now got 2.53.1 installed. the only 2.53 version running on my old debian 8. and i do not upgrade my system yet!

its working.... BUT, it will autoupdate, and this breaks everything up in my system, ... i dont explain.

i roll backl using a backup copy of seamonkey folder.

where exactly is the option to DISABLE autoupdate oin gth esettings? i can not find it. and i will start going crazy and run my head against the wall soon.

Preferences > Advanced > Software Installation

there is NO such option in my seamonkey!

it is not there!

check default.... crash reporter, dev tools, thats all i have. no "software installation"

seamonbkey 2.53.1 64 bit on linux

let me download 2.53.1 and check

there is NO option to disable it

and everytime i use a copy of non updated working seamonkey i loose all my settings cookies logins... and all thaht crap.

im going crazy!

just checked on a fresh download of seamonkey 2.53.1, definitely there under Preferences > Advanced > Software Installation

is it the en-US version you have?

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1

Build identifier: 20200222185934

try about:config and search for app.update.enabled and set it to false

and app.update.auto/$&&%�%&�&%$/& too i guess

done, lets see how long it works

not sure why you don't see Software Installation

could that mean it's disabled?

I mean, that it was built with updates disabled

(which then wouldn't be the official build)

it is definitely no t disabled as i reported.... and it is definitely not an option in my adv prefs, see screenshot

verblendet: open advanced on the tree pane, there's an arrow/+ sign of some sort on the left even if it's not very visible

verblendet: or just click advanced on the left side pane and hit the right arrow, that should expand it as well

DAMN!

what's on that screenshot is the general/root advanced pane, I think

that looks like it is not the official build with the spelling of calendar

WTF? ... sorry

i just have this calendar plugin installed but it is disabled.

invisble plus sign... i need a coffee... beer... or better vodka

I suspect that is something to do with the window manager theme

seems i have some sort of gtk problems...

it is sometimes hard to predict what the interaction between SM theme and the "platform" UI theme will be

verblendet. It seems you have a German Lightning. If 2.53.1 works so should the subsequent versions. We built on CentOS 7 and it is ancient. I usually test the i386 version on Ubuntu 14.04.06. Remove Lightning and any Language pack you have installed from the old version and try to upgrade. I am quite sure it will work. Lightning will be provided and you can then install a later language...

...pack if needed. The only thing which might still break it is ancient add-ons.

in a profile I have here using the SM default theme, some things are harder to see with the selected gtk theme

:O using the modern theme i see an arrow indicatin submenus....

i used default theme before

Broken Linux theme then when it does not show arrows.

default theme relies on the window manager theme whereas modern theme uses it's own icons

OK, i used modern theme, i removed lightning, disabled ALL extensions. started seamonbkey again, press update to 2.53.9..... update runs... restart sm... and my windows is empty

but i still see "termine und aufgaben" on top... but no other menu. and lightning is uninstalled....

where to uninstall a language pack?

there is a directory in extensions folder... i remove it

but it says chatzilla... hmm

verblendet: add-on manager

wow, i needed to unsinstall lightning 3 times.....

verblendet If it starts up it means the library dependencies are resolved. Can you try with a new test profile. If this doesn't work it is something else like graphics drivers.

i have english GB lang pack.. can i remove all ? so the list is empty

verblendet yes. Then en-US or better the language of the installer will be used.

The first language packs were marked as compatible with all 2.53.* versions which exactly cause these problems.

omg... now it is in german.... ouch

i may have accidently downloaded a german static built

omg omg omg, update works :D

ok, as i removed all language packs and have a german sm now... i tried to find extensions and english lang packs... but ... erm... sm seems not to be supported very well.... addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamon…platform=linux&page=&cat=55&atype=1

verblendet: archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.53.9/langpack

the �page above was a link in seamonkey! more about addons....

verblendet you can download the full en-US or en-GB installer and just install/unpack over the current one if you don't want the German version.

yepp. seems the better solution

We currently don't have a way to update language packs but at least they should no longer break the build after an update.

verblendet: i believe the issue with langpacks before that they did not do cZ or calendar have now been resolved.

hmmm, for some reason i have ligning installed again.... does it come witgh the default us built?

extension and addon support for sm seems poor.... all the good old plugins wont work

searching the website above is very frusttrating when it says: here you have seamonkey plugins.. and they are all greyed out

is this still the "the coder has hardcoded firefox in the plugin" thingy?

verblendet Lightning cZ and DOMi come bundled. You can only disable them. One reason to not being able to uninstall is to make the update work better.

verblendet: lightning and cZ are now packaged in. that is why the langpacks now work for them

plugin support is basically dead. NPAPI is being removed. Classic add-ons still work and are updated by some still.

you have to pick the problems you want to solve. If cZ and lightning are not packaged in, then langpacks are not really a thing that works

Although in the case of cZ there at least were cZ langpacks but then an issue with needed a cZ and cZ langpack for the correct SeaMonkey version

so this is kind of better but different

ah i mean addons not plugins... anyway, i cant find some on the mozilla website... all says "this is not compatible..." but e.g. adblock i can download and manually install and works

i remember hacking some manifest files and change strings to make addony work

verblendet Links to NoScript and uBlock Origin are in the release notes. I strongly suggest to not use Adblock Plus any longer.

WG9s, imgpaste.net/image/KX8ISB

erm.....

thats what i mean. i dont see a list of sm compatible addons....

most of te stuff is marked as not compatible

even if it has a big sm logo on top... hrhrhrhr

verblendet: I wonder if we need to update the compatabilty of the add-ons to allow 2.53.9 becuase perhaps have a 2.53.8 maxversion?

maybe.....

This is something the add-on author needs to do after checking for compatibility. You can download and modify install.rdf yourself and test.

No signing requirement.

xpi is a zip file, right?

Yes it is just a zip file

yes

you can unzip change install.rdf and then rezip and then install form file on the add-ons page

IF they have a META-INF directory remove it too. Contains the signing information.

verblendet: addon sites can add to the confusion, sadly

as thunderbird has moved to webexts, you sometimes have to dig working versions from the version history in addons.thunderbird.net

if you change the maxVersion you might try 2.53.* rther than changing it to .9 just sayin'

They have actually moved to mailexts. Web Extensions were never designed for anything but browser and teh gecko implementation is a bad mix of backend and frontend Firefox only so they need to add apis and code to support it for almost everything. One of the reasons I think web exts are crap but again one against the world will work out well. Thank mozilla for it.

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