shadertoy.com/view/lldGDr wtf, I can now run Doom on my GPU, literally

(yes, it works on SeaMonkey - 12FPS here on prehistoric Sandy Bridge graphics with Mesa)

soon we'll be able tor run Linux on our GPU---wait, IT HAS BEEN DONE: blog.pimaker.at/texts/rvc1

GrannyGoose: I see your IRC client did not like my way tomake the topic human readable and shorter. I tested using chatzilla and it did not include the ; in the link

I actually had made this change when 2.53.9b1 was released. I guess no one with a client that does not exclude the ; since august 11th.

WG9s_, i use Hexchat. an its pretty much out of date but it works for me, i hate bloatware like adiircx

i might be wrong but afaict, ADIIRC is just a fork of MIRC

i should not have used ; anyway becuase if it does get included in a link is really a vulneablity exploit of bad cgi-bin scripts character. funny thing is in older webserver that included sample cgi-bin scripts they ended up taking the query string and passing it to a shell and ; is the shell caommand seperator so by including a ; in the string you could folow it with any arbirary command...

...that would run with the privilege of the webserver.

too bad you cant specify an html topic so you can say what should be linked and what the link target should be. you could get a shorter topic and avoid such issues.

so you could linkify SeaMonkey Stable 2.53.9 and make it go to seamonkey-project.org/releases without that even have to show as part of the topic.

problem with IRC in generasl i think unles you use that website that shortens URL's ?

anyway im off to bed

hi, for no reason my good old seamonkey updated automagicalley. this brings me now intro great trouble! i never started the update my own, and no auto updater is activated as i know.

now, i open seamonkey mail and se NOTHING! blank windows, just a stupid calendar plugin seems to work

no hotkeys, nothing. how do i get my old seamonkey back, i need it urgently. i need my emails, bookmarks i colllected fopr years

and why the fuck does this happen?

i believed in sm so much... but sutoupdating and breaking everything on my old linux is a big pain

how to get my old version back? where is the backup directory the updater created?

verblendet. Which version did you run? Updates are onyl enabled for 2.53.1 and up.

it created a backup right?

And basically only work for 2.53.5 and up.

i have no clue which version i ran before as it updated. and this is shit. 2.53 never worked for me for the above reason with empty windows and older linux debian 8 or so

fact is the updater ran. so where is the backup ?

the updater created a backup, right? right?

i am sure it created a backup ;)

as no serious coder would do it without, right?

and the user hgas to decide if the updater is run automagiocally, not by default. this is a fail!

verblendet: first figure out what updated what.

No You just need to reinstall the old version manually. But if it was 2.53 you should just fix up your profile. Did you use a custom theme or an old language pack?

verblendet: linux? any chance it was the package manager that updated it?

what updated what? he?

i use seamoinkey tar gz usually, no stupid packagemanager

verblendet: well, was seamonkey updated or not?

apt has no clue about my seamonkey

it was updated when i started sm as usual and then the damn useless updater started for no reason!

as i said

speaking of backups? Backup your profile *now*. just in case any further step causes damage or removes any file that may be useful

yes, updater usually damage stuff....

so its the job of a seriouos updater to warn me and dont do it autopmagically, damnit

verblendet The updater started because you left enable updates checked in the preferences. Otherwise it wouldn't.

then it owuld have updated yesterday already and ort the day before... etc

i just logge dout and restarted window manager and restartet sm as usual

there is NO level 8/9 error

verblendet: so you were *not* using 2.53? You know which version you were using?

it was definitely a version <1.5

2.5

you mean <2.53?

as 2.5 and ongoing wont work as i explained before, empty windows ... no hotkeys, just empty windows without menu.

<2.5 is also <2.53, right? something like 2.3 or so

the backup would tell me :P

and i dont have space to vreate backup of my profile right now, argh. >30gb

verblendet: 32 bit or 64 bit linux?

64

2.3 or 2.4 really shouldn't have been able to update, I think, certificate and/or encryption suite issues

in case i can fix a newer version and it will run... how to disable autoupdater? is it enabled by default?

is there a list of aut,gaisms in sm? so i can disable them?

Aren't these all in the same preference pane?

verblendet: for versions downloaded from the SM website it is enabled as default

If you knew it was 2.5 it is here: archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.5

As far as I know autoupdates for old versions to 2.53 were disabled and they should stay disabled. Edit->Preferences->SoftWare Installation

ok, and how to disable?

not showing anything... I'd guess either some extension or lang pack (try safe mode), or wrong profile

ok, first thing on my list, disable autoupdater stuff.

Just untick Automatically check for Updates.

but I guess then mail&news would have shown the "create account" wizard

verblendet: did you get an account creation wizard when you opened mail&news?

no

a new sm starts up and i get a mail window and i see only the calendar

no menu for mail etc, no hotkeys for browser etc.

can you take a screenshot? Also, can you try "seamonkey --safe-mode"?

i dont risk starting it again damaging my profile completely. NO

It was with 2.49.x that linux 64bit was available officially

verblendet: then what about you run "seamonkey --ProfileManager" and create a new profile for testing

got a backup and will no continue my work. someday i get a newer linux and a newer sm. first have to get a hdd to create another backup of my profile.

wasted 2h now

verblendet: have you tried starting with a CLEAN profile?

also, FWIW no web browser ever made backups of the prior version before autoupdating, except maybe for IE

I get that feeling ("it autoupdated, not everything is broken!"), for real, but... need to be calm for troubleshooting

also, Debian 8 has been EOL'd since 2017 (and 2020 for ELTS)

time also to get used to do manual backups of everything - I do regular full disk images, particularly before huge OS updates