Seamonkey gets mentioned in this weeks Destination Linux: youtube.com/watch?v=lkGNzCodcBI&

also helped out with some ChatZilla translations yesterday

luna_: thanks

IanN_Away: np :)

first thing in the episode Seamonkey talk

hi

Quassel is a decent irc client

IanN: a consolation prize for you! :) bugzilla.mozilla.org/1718839#c13

Yet another for-years-hidden bug. Thanks to frg for finding and posting it.

What is the current status of bug 521861, and whether Thunderbird is affected too?

buc: I even found an old bug number to go with it - Bug 1166225

frg: Where to "Cancel Messages" in news in SM mailer?

buc Menu: Message-> Cancel Message. Told me it was not my message and then showed similar symptoms like with archive.

frg: Well, what the "Menu"? Just do not see such a thing...

...as well as "Message" in any context menus...

Buc Menu as in the Window menu. File Edit View Go Message ..

Oops, thanks, found! :)

frg: "Cancel Message" on not own message leads to throbber to be busy until the end of the session. Or something is locked too?

And "Cancel Message" behaviour is irrelevant on the way we fix Archive news issue (ie. the same with the initial workaround)

I've found that GNOME Evolution allows to "delete" news messages too. The behaviour seems the same as with SM (before the patch of with initial work-around). The message is "deleted", until you unsubscribe and subscribe again.

That way Evolution even allows to "move" messages from the news folder. (Kinda "copy then delete" or similar).

buc yes see the busy cursor but right now expirience with mozilla.org some timeouts so might not be valid. 99% unrelated if a real bug.

frg: The code for "cancel, but now allowed" hg.mozilla.org/releases/comm-esr60/…s/news/src/nsNNTPProtocol.cpp#l3669 for some reason differs with "cancel, but changed their mind" hg.mozilla.org/releases/comm-esr60/…s/news/src/nsNNTPProtocol.cpp#l3702

The first has some extra things, which might be a reason. But it seems that both cases could be as "easy" as the second one...

heh, so Mozilla dropped FTP support on FF90 because "unsafe" and "bloat"...

...yet they keep adding more Javascript unsafe bloat :/

Speaking of bloat ... support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable…-background-updates-firefox-windows

perfect for normies who can't even remember how to properly turn off their computers, HORRIBLE for us power users that actually like owning our own computers

thankfully it's (still!) a toggle option... for now

frg: try for "Cancel Messsage" bugzilla.mozilla.org/1718839#c20

tomman: The next step is to get rid of browsers on a local machine at all, and use "remote dekstop" (certainly on their site) instead. :)

buc: don't give Google ideas!

they're already trying to do that with videogames (Stadia)... fortunately with poor results, as most gamers still value performance, and lag hurts that

buc need to check if I can figure out what the flags do.

frg: The question is whether such an understanding is necessary at all, because it seems possible to handle this case similarly to another simpler one.

buc with mailnews code I am very very cautious :)

frg: Wanted to ask: What is the current status of bug 521861, and whether Thunderbird is affected too?