Hello Everyone! Good Day & a Happy Friday! :)

sorry shrini.. I had to go to office for 3 days now.. so not able to connect regularly.

went through some of the recent messages.. looks like I got a partner ;)

sethu_payilagam: for what?

dhuruvangal :D

why blood.. same blood moment!! :) :)

sethu_payilagam: ooh yeah 😀

hello

sethu_payilagam: is it possible to give a talk in ILUGC? tomorrow?

vishnu98: hi, welcome

vishnu98: first time visiting here?

yes

vishnu98: great. student?

yep studying 2nd year cse

hi vishnu98

welcome

I can try mohan43u. Only concern is the timing.. I am worried if I will fail to get up and join the meeting as it would be 4:30 in the morning.. :(

sethu_payilagam: ooh, yeah. too early

sethu_payilagam: no issues, just asked, disn't realize the time difference.

No no mohan43u. Even I never attended the ilugc.. and I was looking for a chance..I will try to join atleast this time

sethu_payilagam: thats great

vishnu98: where are you studying? which uni/coll?

AAA college sivakasi

vishnu98: ooh, how did you end up here?

my brother told me about this irc channel

vishnu98: is he here already?

no he is yet to login today

vishnu98: what is his name?

Thanga ayyanar

welcome to foss family

vishnu98: ooh, gold's brother you are, nice.

happy to see you here vishnu98

thank you sir

sir/madam is not required in FOSS communities

vishnu98: no sir mate

call with name itself

are you using linux OS ?

ok

ye ubuntu 22.04

vishnu98: is it good to use linux for your study? I mean, are you able to do everything in linux syllabus wise?

its really good

The problem I faced was using Microsoft Excel

vishnu98: are you not able to open the .xlsx in libereoffice calc properly?

I used Wine to run Microsoft Excel.

vishnu98: Wine is a russian roulette, you can't fully depend on it, what is your machine's configuration? how much memory?

vishnu98: explain your problem that you are facing

what do you want to do with excel

?

hope libreoffice can do the same

The Nan Mudhalvan course requires Excel, and it is worth 3 credits.

oh ok

vishnu98: what kind of course is it?

no explain about the issue you are getting with excel in wine

it was stuck at mono installer

can you share the course syllabus here?

or link for it?

sure

here website link

syllabus for excel ?

ye

one sec

is it a self study course? or some online course teached by some one?

self study

it need my id to view the details

vishnu98: what kind of thing you study in this naanmudhalvan? only excel?

what is the course name?

check the other courses here

its microsoft digital skills

mohan43u not only excel

They offer various courses for free to everyone.

like nptl courses conducted by our indian government

vishnu98: how the "paid course" works? do tn govt pay for the trainers to train the students after course completion?

I've never used paid courses before, so I'm not sure how it works.

vishnu98: so this is optional or mandatory? only 2nd year students should take this course?

it's mandatory in my college

vishnu98: you have to take this course every year? or only one time?

weekly once

oh sorry

my faculty wil decide the courses

vishnu98: I mean, student have to take one of these course every year, or student should complete one of these course only one time?

one course for one semester

vishnu98: aah ok.

so far i have completed 3

each course is adding credits

yes

which will help as a factor for any good internship at final year

or for campus interview

for campus interview

good then

for this excel course, how will you prove that you have done with the course?

is there any online exam?

yes

with some practicals?

or only MCQ ?

choose the best answer?

try this web based excel too

try office 2013 with play on linux

the recent office may not be installable in linux

read here - reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/1…utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

choose the best answer

read here also

install play on linux first

and then try office 2013 or 2016

it should work fine

there wont be much difference in excel 2013 with latest version

ok i will try and share my feedback

shrini thanks

mohan43u thanks

do you have more linux users at college?

no i have told them about linux but they are using windows

ok

check our many events here and attend whatever is possible

ok will attend here onwards

bye i will connect tomorrow thanks everyone

ok

good to see that linux growing along with families

many years ago, my brother arulalan started kanchilug with his friends

my friend raji took care of chennaipy when it had no maintainer for few years

now sugi brings anish here and ilugc

goldayan comes with brother

I am so happy

nithya is smiling here :-)

:)

Nithya is my wife.

waiting for my turn to share something like that here, shrini

when we got married, she dont have windows

on frustration she started to learn linux, just to use the computer at home

then, she become a author of many FOSS books in tamil

sethu_payilagam: good

the best way is to install linux and give to use

Inspiring journey for her!

once they start to use and play around, they will become easy with linux

Hi all

hi Varun777

shrini: I don't like windows, I feel Linux changed my life as a college student, who doesn't knows anything, who doesn't know how to use my computer. In my first years of my college.

I got frustrated sitting in front of computer, in my first years

My computer got too slow on using windows 10 in Intel i3

with 4 gigs of Ram

Then in my 3rd semester by watching linus tech tips, I switched to Linux ( Manjaro Linux )

which changed my life forever on sitting in front of computer frequently, upgraded my RAM and SSD, then also I use Linux, instead of windows

interesting Varun777

publish your story in your blog

which will help others a lot

yes, As most of us have low end computers in beginning days

the slow OS will kill our interest to learn anything

great to hear Varun777.. you all are superstars!! always happy to be here.. :)

good that you started with manjaro arch

it will be good fast

one of the best thing with any linux/bsd os is

the user will become a developer magically

quickly

what is bsd shrini?

sethu_payilagam: one of unix like OS

ok ok

BSD is a kernel just like linux kernel

but all other software are mostly the same

shrini: BSD is a full OS

same firefox, same kde, same gnome

shrini: bsd kernel developers also develop the userland

but underlying OS is different

there is freebsd/openbsd/netbsd and more

it comes with more open license

we dont need to relase the code/customizations that we make for bsd

apple took the bsd stuff and rebranded as MacOS

BSD's license allows that

Thanks shrini and mohan43u.. I will read through it

shrini: Interesting shrini, They used BSD as MacOS, I am thinking they have taken orginal Unix kernel

shrini and mohan43u - just a layman doubt.. with so much passion towards linux and open source.. how are you both using the licensed software and windows for your office stuff.. I mean how do you feel when there is no other option.

I dont join any office, if I can not use linux desktop

:-)

in all my work life, I asked linux for linux as OS, on their desktop/laptop

if not, I use my own linux laptop

thats great shrini. And your company allowed that?

that is the one reason, I am staying with small companies

Happy for you..

MNC may not allow it

and feeling good about the company too

very true

many of my friends are in MNC where they have to use windows or mac at work

but they use linux at home as a remedy

exactly.. thats what I was thinking until today..

economical reasons tie us

100% shrini

few of them ask for linux at office continiously

and got it approved

not just with this.. with many other factors

some times lack of tools

lack of good commercial support

lack of vendors to provide centralized login

much more are there

Even in office, the base OS, is just a basic tool to launch other tools like browsers, VDIs

too many restricions there

thats their business need

we need more companies to provide commercial support for desktop and other integrations

shrini: I am a fresher, shall I ask my system admin or team to install Linux in my office laptops on bigger service based companies?

sethu_payilagam: thankfully my current work is all about linux, so I didn't have to depend on windows, whe I joined, I have to use skype for team communication, outlook for office mail, Microsoft did a good thing transforming outlook as web based and introduced teams as web based as well, so I just got rid of my windows vm entirely

Varun777: please ask for linux in job

if more people start to ask, then they will give

great mohan43u! Happy for you both

shrini: thank you shrini

Will companies like Red Hat atleast allow their employees to use linux machines or will they give them Mac or any other equivalent?

sethu_payilagam: I think it mostly depend on project and the need for that project

most startups are going with linux

ok ok.. mohan43u. imagining a company with every employee using linux

there are many such companies

super shrini

the only question I ask on my job interviews is "Can i get linux laptop?"

:) Love it

shrini: you are a linux terror for recruiters :)

:-)

now you are making me to doubt again about who the author is for Dhuruvangal and who that character Madhan is :D :D

hahaah

all the fictional charectors are inpired by some human

oh ok :) :)

I am not the author

sethu_payilagam: there is no doubt, the author is a ghost here who is listening every conversation 😀

If I have such writing skill, I will quit my job and will write such books forever

yes mohan43u.. i think the same

:D :D :D

ultimate!

dammit we knew..

if you say me as a ghost, I will come in your dream and horror you all

:-)

:)

this is fun

but, I am not the author

of duruvangal

promise

then you should be the inspiration to that madhan character for sure

I am trying to write one book on python for 13 years

where nithya released 13 books already

same as Dhuruvangal style..

definitely try shrini.. may be take help from the author Nakeeran

I am so much lazy to write

fictions

too time taking thing

I will get on writing code than writing a fiction

payilagam muthu is a good story teller

we have to hijack him and put in a hotel for few months

and ask him to bring good books on FOSS stuff

shrini: his teaching style is so nice from few videos he is sharing in tlc

mohan43u: Like how i wanted to put a voice and a potrait to all the writings of shrini.. i wanted to put a voice for you as well.. then Muthu sir told about your YT channel went and watched just for this :) Now i am happy

we have to hijack him and put in a hotel for few months - :D :D :D

let me know if you need any help

sethu_payilagam: you mean, the TLC videos of mine?

yes yes.. i found a playlist for GOLANG too

I remember mohan43u has a playlist of duruvangal book cliubd too

book club meeting

I am really missing the ilugc days at chennai

we meet likeminded friends there and keep on talking random FOSS stuff

going to colleges, teaching on workshops

attending/organizing foss confereces

we had a good life there

I got many decade+ friends like mohan43u at ilugc

tryig to have some tech meetup here in canada

let us plan something here sethu_payilagam

hope mohan43u is getting some meetups near him

there are few meetups here in krakow, but most of the meets are at 6.00 pm in the weekdays

we miss our scooters and motorbikes here

people here dont like to have anything on weekends

for quick travel

Sure shrini.. please tell me

for now I will not be of much help technically.. as I am just getting into this wonderful world.. but other than that you can count me in 100% for all the other activities.. I want to contribute through some means for this community

i mean not help.. contribute. sorry typo~

attneding the events itself a big contribution

there is no big or small thing

whatever we can do, let us do

sure shri

sure shrini

annamalai: can you send your talk details to ilugc mailing list

?

itz_mr_evil:can you give any talk tomorrow?

shrini: I've already sent yesterday

Hello everyone

My boss has given green flag to conduct ILUGC in our office at Alwarpet \

Do we need a projector?

‘அடுத்து cd, இது ஒரு ேபால்டரில் இருந்து இன்ெனாரு ேபால்டருக்கு மாற உதவும்’ கார்த்திகா கூற

‘இப்படியும் ெசால்லலாம், ெடர்மினல் ப்ராசஸ்ேசாட கரண்ட் ேபால்டர ேசஞ்ச் பண்ண யூஸ் பண்ற

கமாண்டு அப்படின்னும் ெசால்லலாம்’

Page No 40, There is a super tiny typo...

‘அடுத்து dh, இந்த கமாண்ட் ைபல் சிஸ்டத்ேதாட ேமப் ஆயிருக்குற ஒவ்ெவாரு பார்டிஷேனாட

யூேசஜ் ெசல்லும்’ கார்த்திகா கூற ‘முக்கியமா df -h கமாண்ட் பார்டிஷேனாட ைசஸ்

கிகாைபட்(G)/ெமாகாைபட்(M)/கிேலாைபட்(K) கணக்கில் காட்டும்’ என்று மதன் விளக்கினான

It should be `df` instead of `dh`

praem90: yes correct, thats a typo, maybe send a patch to that book's gitlab repo