03:02:56 <mohan43u> shrini: >>so that they can start using it quickly<< there is another eazy way, use Arch 😁
03:10:35 <shrini> mohan43u: not everyone has arch :-)
03:10:46 <shrini> hope someone send emacs30 to snap soon
05:54:56 <divya> shrini: Emacs30 to snap? haha, that's funny
08:21:02 <annamalai> through distrobox I can use arch lol  
08:21:15 <annamalai> and easily use emacs 30 in my host
14:25:11 <shrini> hello all
14:25:19 <praem90> Hi 
14:25:53 <praem90> Did you give Seolve a try :shrini?
14:26:33 <shrini> yet to work on it praem90 
14:26:39 <shrini> got busy yesterday
14:26:46 <shrini> planned for it today
14:26:55 <shrini> I am stuck with the API things
14:27:08 <shrini> have to read many pages and process for getting api
14:28:02 <praem90> Twitter is the easiest one 
14:28:37 <praem90> For linkedIn you might need a create a page and then create an app then verify 
14:28:37 <shrini-irccloud> Toot is the easiest
14:29:16 <shrini-irccloud> Will start exploring other APIs
14:29:30 <praem90> Facebook is something too cluttered and too many informations 
14:29:35 <shrini-irccloud> Yes. It became too tough
14:29:35 <praem90> Toot? 
14:29:41 <shrini-irccloud> Mastodon is toot
14:29:50 <praem90> Ohhh ok
14:34:57 <shrini-irccloud> How is duruvangal book going ?
14:35:11 <praem90> No progress today 
14:36:08 <praem90> We can connect if you want to setup those accounts later tonight
14:58:31 <shrini-irccloud> praem90: I will check for them
14:58:45 <shrini-irccloud> I will be busy on office calls for few more hours
14:59:23 <praem90> Okay 
15:03:31 <Varun777> hi all
15:04:32 <praem90> Hey VArun
15:04:40 <goldayan> Hello all
15:04:49 <goldayan> hello varun and praem
15:04:54 <praem90> It looks like the dataset has been published to HuggingFace
15:05:02 <praem90> Hey Gold
15:09:35 <goldayan> If anyone interested in learning about podman (similar to docker but doesn't need daemon to run in background) redhat just release a podman book for free https://developers.redhat.com/e-books/podman-action
15:10:26 <goldayan> You can download lot of tech book like above for free legally in the following website, https://freecomputerbooks.com
15:13:08 <shrini> good
15:13:22 <shrini> Varun777: share the dataset link here
15:14:38 <Varun777> pream90: Yes prem
15:15:01 <Varun777> shrini: same link which I have shared yesterday
15:16:48 <shrini> Varun777: many people are reading our chat logs daily
15:17:51 <shrini> they wont remember the chat :-)
15:18:09 <shrini> giving links here along with the discussion will help a lot for any new reader
15:18:35 <Varun777> ok shrini 
15:19:23 <Varun777> https://huggingface.co/datasets/aiwithvarun7/theekkathir-text-dataset
15:19:42 <shrini> super. thanks
15:20:26 <Varun777> shrini: for Kaniyam Foundation will you create dataset?
15:20:57 <Varun777> from that I will write api to push in hugging face via hfapi
15:21:25 <shrini> ou can puish there directly
15:21:29 <shrini> you can Varun777 
15:22:44 <shrini> I am yet to learn the huggingface things
15:22:46 <shrini> :-(
15:22:51 <shrini> its all new to me
15:22:58 <shrini> seems it is like git
15:23:44 <shrini> https://jsbooks.revolunet.com/
15:23:54 <shrini> this is also good site for books
15:25:48 <sethu_payilagam> Hello All. Good day!
15:28:24 <shrini> hello sethu_payilagam 
15:28:34 <goldayan> Hello sethu_payilagam
15:30:38 <shrini> I had an issue with my gotosocial instance not showing some toots in tamil
15:30:51 <shrini> asked about it in fediverse
15:31:19 <goldayan> Huggging face is using git and for large files it uses a concept called git lfs (git large file system) i haven't used it personally though
15:31:21 <shrini> it reached to gotosocial developer and got response as "found the fix. will add in gotosocial soon."
15:31:23 <shrini> https://social.kaniyam.cloudns.nz/@shrini/statuses/01JET1D4WQ6W116BMC816ZK6WW
15:35:59 <goldayan> Okay the issue is we are setting the content map key as en-us but the content in tamil.
15:36:32 <goldayan> should we change the content map key to ta-in so it will better supported in other software right ?
15:37:29 <shrini> That feed bot only uses the contentMap property and not the content property when publishing Notes, and GoToSocial currently only looks at content for content, and uses contentMap for language
15:37:52 <shrini> its good to use both properties with correct content
15:38:15 <goldayan> got it
15:38:51 <shrini> another happy news
15:39:17 <shrini> reported an issue at 2019 to creative commons license chooser repo. it got closed yesterday
15:39:18 <shrini> https://github.com/creativecommons/creativecommons.org/issues/967
15:39:34 <shrini> small one line UI improvement. 
15:39:47 <goldayan> Have you upgrade your gotosocial server @shrini ?
15:39:57 <shrini> yet to upgrade goldayan 
15:40:06 <shrini> too many things in my TODO list
15:41:33 <shrini> trying to do them all, one by one
15:41:37 <goldayan> Read the release section as there are some things need to done before starting the server because the db is changed. Last time i checked they told to backup the sqlite db and start. Also it is better to backup your db time to time to avoid issue while upgrading new version
15:41:53 <shrini> yes
15:42:04 <shrini> regular backup is what I am doing 
15:43:18 <goldayan> Nice (I need to do the same when i host gotosocial personally). Hope i will host one before this year ends. I have also poked into lot of stuff not able to do one thing completly. 
15:43:55 <goldayan> I was using org mode before for managing task but failed to follow after few days, here i am now. Need to start it again.
15:44:30 <shrini> :-)
15:44:40 <shrini> use org-mode to capture all tasks
15:45:01 <shrini> I do only 3A, 3B and 3C tasks every day
15:45:12 <shrini> all other tasks are moved to next day
15:45:28 <goldayan> If you are using org mode to track the task. check out orgzly Revived for view/edit org docs in android it also contains widget that display agenda too.
15:45:45 <shrini> my orgmode file is too big
15:45:56 <shrini> mobile app can not handle it
15:46:06 <shrini> I use computer for all the series tasks
15:46:13 <shrini> mobile is only for communication
15:46:37 <goldayan> I read about the flow 3A 3B and 3C from jhon wigley blog using org mode as daily planner.
15:46:53 <goldayan> There is another way to handle the task it is called GTD. 
15:47:49 <goldayan> I want to tell you about this @shrini i know you are maintaining all the task in one org doc. What do you do once the task is complete ?
15:48:22 <shrini> i mark it as DONE
15:48:33 <shrini> thats all
15:49:07 <shrini> once in quarter, will move some non used headings as subheadings of "archive"
15:49:10 <shrini> heading
15:49:31 <shrini> so that the org file is tidy and showing the current IN progress headings
15:49:31 <goldayan> There is option in org mode that can archive the task. Like once the task is done you can press the archive it will move all the done task to another file if needed
15:50:08 <shrini> yes, but I like to keep in same file :-)
15:50:22 <shrini> so that I have everything on a same file
15:50:32 <shrini> easy to backup and sync with disroot account
15:50:39 <shrini> and in private git
15:50:56 <shrini> It may not a be good in long run
15:52:12 <goldayan> Yep. I plan to archive the done task now and then. Once the year is done archived file will be moved to different folder. This is what i planned.
15:52:21 <shrini> thats nice
15:52:48 <shrini> I keep the notes, credentails, links along with the tasks
15:53:01 <shrini> so I refer the DONE tasks often using search
15:54:19 <shrini> emacs gives options to search in multiple files too
15:54:29 <shrini> but, I am going with lean plan
16:00:23 <goldayan> Better to follow that works. I plan to pick one that looks interesting and plan on modifying to my taste and lazyness :-)
16:00:39 <Varun777> Have anyone used cron job in GitHub actions 
16:02:10 <mohan43u> Varun777: for what kind of purpose you need a cron job inside github actions?
16:02:52 <Varun777> To run theekkathir scrapping in GitHub actions 
16:03:21 <Varun777> https://github.com/vishnumur777/theekkathir-text-dataset/blob/dev/.github/workflows/upload_datasets.yml
16:03:31 <Varun777> check this out
16:03:54 <Varun777> how cron works in GitHub actions 
16:04:23 <Varun777> I have used cron in my Linux distros
16:04:47 <Varun777> How it differs between each other 
16:13:07 <goldayan> I haven't worked with github action itself. Is github action supports cron? interesting...
16:34:28 <shrini> actions will call the container on the specified timein its cron
16:35:46 <Varun777> but timezone differs
16:36:01 <shrini> goldayan: buy and read the book "eat the frog"
16:36:53 <Varun777> they use UTC
16:37:01 <Varun777> instead of IST
16:37:36 <shrini> hmm
16:37:51 <shrini> then use utc itself
16:38:20 <Varun777> Which makes me confused on running cron in GitHub actions 
16:38:46 <Varun777> cron doesn't work on correct time which is given
16:39:01 <Varun777> in GitHub actions 
16:39:04 <shrini> compare UTC to IST
16:39:50 <Varun777> I have done shrini and set the time I need
16:40:08 <Varun777> but it can't able to trigger on time
16:40:50 <Varun777> Eventhough my syntax on cron was correct 
16:41:05 <Varun777> in .yml file
16:42:36 <shrini> https://jasonet.co/posts/scheduled-actions/
16:42:39 <shrini> compare here
16:42:49 <shrini> dont give any empty line above the cron
16:43:48 <mohan43u> Varun777: I'm not sure github actions environment supports cron, your script should be capable of running a event loop to replicate cron functionality
16:47:07 <Varun777> so what to do inorder to solve this issue in script 
16:47:22 <shrini> mohan43u: check the above link
16:57:34 <goldayan> Okay i heard about the book. I will add to my list
17:03:50 <shrini> Eat that frog gives practical items to work
17:04:07 <shrini> which can be followed easily with emacs
17:04:38 <shrini> all methods ends with identifying A jobs for the day and finishing them completely
17:05:11 <shrini> but, we mostly like to do only E or N or Z jobs
18:06:54 <shrini> hariharan: still awake?
18:18:39 <shrini> divya: I hope emacs30 should be available as snap also
18:18:54 <shrini> so that ubuntu and relatives can get it quickly
18:19:05 <shrini> is that possible?
23:38:42 <divya> shrini: I don't think so, but Ubuntu and relatives don't have latest versions of Emacs?