14:11:00 <shrini> hello all
14:39:48 <mohan43u> so silent today
14:49:03 <sethu_payilagam> Good Day Everyone!
14:50:05 <sethu_payilagam> There is not much update from me, shrini. I will continue to explore my pending tasks and provide an update in the coming days.
14:50:37 <sethu_payilagam> Any purchases from Thanksgiving day sale shrini?
14:50:54 <sethu_payilagam> Do you have anything similar there in polland, mohan43u?
14:53:30 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: black friday and cyber monday is also here. online/offline stores sell things cheeper. but I'm not sure people desperately go and buy things like in US, thanksgiving is not followed
14:53:47 <shrini> sethu_payilagam: hello
14:54:01 <shrini> not purchased anything to get 100% savings :-)
14:54:19 <sethu_payilagam> :) same pinch shrini 
14:54:20 <shrini> following minimalism always
14:54:26 <sethu_payilagam> love it
14:55:01 <shrini> last year we moved to new houses, with 3 suitcases of things
14:55:24 <sethu_payilagam> true mohan43u... In a way it is good that here in Canada.. ppl are not that crazy and the sales are also not that attractive compared to US.. 
14:56:25 <sugi> Hi everyone
14:57:12 <sethu_payilagam> shrini -  You are great! I did something similar when I had to move from NJ to Alabama.. I shifted the entire home in my car along with my wife and kids.. 
14:57:18 <sethu_payilagam> Hello sugi!
14:57:29 <sugi> Hi Sethu
14:58:15 <sugi> sethu_payilagam: somedays there is no frog story or did i miss that?
14:59:22 <sugi> Hi Shrini
14:59:27 <sethu_payilagam> No Sugi. I got caught up with some personal stuffs for the past few days.. I will continue
14:59:38 <sethu_payilagam> There are a lots of frogs to eat :D
14:59:48 <sugi> sethu_payilagam: :)
15:00:30 <sugi> sethu_payilagam: R u chatting with 2 devices with same nick?
15:02:00 <shrini> we can not login to two devices with same nic
15:02:07 <sethu_payilagam> Currently I am using my laptop.. but when I am away I will be using my mobile
15:03:22 <sugi> shrini: But his name is displaying with same nic
15:03:48 <sugi> shrini: with 2 different colors
15:04:35 <sugi> shrini: but right side his login is one, how shrini?
15:05:02 <sugi> sethu_payilagam: How Sethu?
15:09:40 <shrini> sugi: how is rains there?
15:09:47 <mohan43u> sugi: sethu_payilagam might be using IRC bouncer(znc,nextcloud etc), this IRC Bouncer connects to the real IRC network, sethu_payilagam will connect to the bouncer from any device
15:09:58 <shrini> if required, you can take break from IRC, till all comes to normal
15:12:32 <sugi> shrini: rain is OK now, its cloudy sometimes drizzling, became normal.
15:13:45 <sugi> mohan43u: If he connects with bouncer so it will display with 2 colored names?
15:15:03 <mohan43u> sugi: no. we will have only one nick in the channel
15:15:39 <sugi> mohan43u: one nic with 2 diff colors it was shown
15:15:54 <sethu_payilagam> I am not seeing that sugi..
15:16:25 <shrini> share screenshot sugi
15:16:34 <sethu_payilagam> I came across a video from Meta Monkeys and remembered you shrini
15:16:43 <shrini> https://imgur.com/
15:16:47 <mohan43u> sugi: I see one sethu_payilagam in this channel
15:16:56 <shrini> paste the screenshot here and share link sugi 
15:17:00 <shrini> hahaha sethu_payilagam 
15:17:03 <shrini> what video ?
15:17:19 <sethu_payilagam> let me share the link.. it was interesting and insist the importance of writing
15:17:53 <sethu_payilagam> I started liking their content.. :)
15:18:46 <shrini> yes, the we have to promote well the skills of reading and writing
15:19:03 <shrini> we became only consumers of video and audio
15:19:12 <shrini> the text skills is fading away
15:19:22 <shrini> we have to reclaim that
15:19:32 <sethu_payilagam> https://youtu.be/91JQHaylB5s?feature=shared
15:19:37 <shrini> it took many centuries for us to learn to read and write
15:19:57 <shrini> in 2 generations, we are losing those skills
15:20:08 <shrini> and moving back to hearing stories
15:20:47 <shrini> Zettelkasten is really good
15:21:08 <shrini> emacs provides all the features and facilities of it
15:22:04 <mohan43u> shrini: >>Zettelkasten<< what is this?
15:22:16 <shrini> linked notes
15:22:45 <sethu_payilagam> Super shrini. When I am driving alone.. i will listen to something like this and I randomly came across this video. found it very interesting and brain immidietely triggered a thought about your words on reading and writing!  Thanks again shrini!
15:23:07 <sugi> https://ibb.co/1QzCcHH
15:23:36 <sethu_payilagam> and the idea of using the Indian post cards is next level.. and nostalgic too :)
15:24:00 <sethu_payilagam> he mention someone by name as Lumen.. do you know about him shrini?
15:24:12 <shrini> sugi: if someone mention your name, there nick will be highligted
15:24:29 <shrini> for you to check it quickly
15:24:51 <mohan43u> sugi: it means the text message contains your nick, probably means they are directly responding to you
15:25:14 <sugi> shrini: Oh OK. At least now asked you, and knew about it, thank you
15:26:24 <sugi> mohan43u: yes, got it Mohan, thank you.  I have been looking at it, and thought used 2 devices. Now clear.
15:27:16 <shrini> is this https://uselumen.com/ sethu_payilagam ?
15:28:01 <shrini> there are many editors for taking notes
15:28:26 <shrini> Obsidian
15:28:28 <shrini> lumen
15:28:33 <shrini> and more
15:28:38 <shrini> I am staying with emacs
15:28:56 <shrini> and not following Zettelkasten
15:29:10 <shrini> My workflow is very simple
15:29:20 <shrini> I store all the content on one single file
15:29:33 <shrini> with org-mode, we can shrink and expand the content
15:30:12 <sugi> shrini: I have gone through mark down, and using Markdown Live Preview - online editor used for my sql queries (Jafer gave homework)
15:31:02 <sugi> shrini: Now can I post it in git lab, wordpress can't show the .md file output,right?
15:31:31 <sethu_payilagam> Let me explore more on the emacs shrini
15:32:20 <sethu_payilagam> is this https://uselumen.com/ sethu_payilagam ? - I am also not sure shrini. He referenced "Lumen" in the video many times and I wasn't sure about his background.. so thought of checking with you
15:34:36 <sugi> mohan43u: I feel like "Wow, IRC".  Now If i want to send the messages for 3 people like more than one, so the highlighter will work for all?
15:35:19 <sugi> mohan43u: Now I tried, for you and shrini.  Only one name only its coming by Ctrl+tab.  Is there any way?
15:36:11 <shrini> you can mention any number of nick names
15:36:33 <shrini> they all see the color change and notified, if they set notification
15:36:48 <shrini> just type the first letter and press TAB to expand their names
15:36:53 <shrini> sethu_payilagam: https://lucidmanager.org/productivity/getting-things-done-with-emacs/
15:37:01 <mohan43u> sugi: ctrl-tab? I think you need to type first few letters if the nick then press tab, this will complete the nick, you can use any number of nicks in a message
15:37:20 <shrini> this is the org-mode thing I follow for tasks and notes management
15:37:26 <shrini> all in one file
15:37:59 <sugi> shrini: mohan43u sethu_payilagam :Just testing - You all have the highlighted name?
15:38:01 <shrini> currently with 46k lines of notes, tasks.
15:38:06 <shrini> yes sugi 
15:39:07 <mohan43u> sugi: yes, I see my nick highlighted
15:39:45 <sugi> shrini: mohan43u :thank you learnt one more today
15:39:54 <shrini> 1.6 MB file
15:40:09 <shrini> with all my history from 2021
15:40:43 <sugi> shrini: posted some messages reg markdown, i think because of relay you missed it
15:41:52 <sethu_payilagam> currently with 46k lines of notes, tasks. - Wow!
15:42:18 <sethu_payilagam> yes.. Mine is highlighted in yellow when you mention my name/nick name
15:42:34 <sugi> sethu_payilagam: thank you.
15:42:51 <sethu_payilagam> But as he mention.. what if you would like to link any 2 notes.. you will search with the keywords?
15:42:53 <shrini> When I learnt linux at 2005, ilugc people asked me to learn emacs too
15:43:17 <shrini> but, i missed to learn fearing that it will be tough
15:43:46 <shrini> because of that, I could not keep all the notes on single place
15:44:04 <shrini> I was writing on multiple tools. online products, offline tools
15:44:24 <shrini> every time, was trying different tool
15:44:41 <shrini> all the old notes go with the tool itself
15:44:54 <shrini> could not migrate, as they were not in plaintext
15:45:17 <shrini> At 2021 only, got the courage to learn emacs
15:45:47 <shrini> and felt bad on how I wasted few decades of notes with different tools
15:46:18 <shrini> As all my notes are organized on one single file, it is always easy for me to traverse
15:47:59 <shrini> https://writeroom.bukpet.com/?p=1586
15:48:21 <shrini> I was reading about how taking notes can help much, in the above post in tamil
15:48:54 <shrini> started to learn emacs and implemented the process of org-mode, to capture all the things I come across to remember
15:49:10 <shrini> it helps me to capture tasks quickly with org-capture
15:49:19 <shrini> org-agenda to show my daily TODOs
15:50:07 <shrini> when I was working on consulting for multiple projects, I used this to clock-in and clock-out to capture the time I spend on each task for different projects
15:50:32 <shrini> every month, I get a quick report on time spent on each project
15:51:05 <shrini> https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2020/06/16/quick-easy-guide-to-getting-started-with-emacs-editor/
15:51:14 <shrini> wrote this easy tutorial to start emacs
15:51:33 <sugi> shrini: I will go through taht after some days
15:51:47 <shrini> my advise is to learn emacs and start using it to capture all the notes and tasks
15:52:02 <sugi> shrini: ok shrini
15:52:05 <shrini> use it as second brain
15:52:13 <shrini> build your own local knowledge base
15:52:22 <shrini> it will help on tons of ways
15:52:33 <sugi> shrini:ok
15:52:43 <sugi> shrini: I have gone through mark down, and using Markdown Live Preview - online editor used for my sql queries (Jafer gave homework)
15:52:56 <shrini> good sugi 
15:52:58 <sugi> shrini: Now can I post it in git lab, wordpress can't show the .md file output,right?
15:53:58 <sugi> shrini: homework not fully completed. But can post the partialt
15:54:36 <shrini> wordpress can show md
15:54:52 <sugi> shrini: so, directly I can paste the code
15:55:07 <sethu_payilagam> wrote this easy tutorial to start emacs - Thanks shrini
15:56:09 <shrini> sugi: when inserting the new block, on new wordpress post
15:56:13 <shrini> search for markdown
15:56:19 <shrini> it will give a new block
15:56:27 <shrini> use that and insert markdown content
15:57:04 <sugi> shrini: OK shrini, let me check that
15:57:28 <shrini> https://wordpress.com/support/wordpress-editor/blocks/markdown-block/
15:57:32 <shrini> check here too
15:58:18 <sugi> shrini: ok shrini
15:59:57 <sugi> shrini: And shrini, tomorrow I can't connect  my parents are coming, and my son also coming for his college semester holidays
16:01:03 <shrini> good
16:01:13 <shrini> where your son is studying?
16:01:17 <shrini> which college?
16:01:44 <sugi> shrini: Oh My God, this one I thought to share like a surprise
16:02:13 <sethu_payilagam> It is already a surprise!! Great Sugi!
16:02:23 <sugi> shrini: fine, IIIT pune. Now guess?
16:02:48 <shrini> should be here already
16:02:50 <shrini> :-)
16:02:58 <sugi> :-)
16:03:38 <shrini> anish
16:03:54 <sugi> shrini: Yes
16:04:04 <shrini> thats happy news
16:04:12 <shrini> good to know that
16:04:32 <sethu_payilagam> So many Wow's today!!!
16:04:38 <sugi> shrini: :-)
16:05:15 <shrini> hope the travels are good
16:05:15 <sugi> shrini: Do you remember, he told from Payilagam's friend he joined- that friend is me
16:05:25 <shrini> yes :-)
16:05:28 <sethu_payilagam> :)
16:05:38 <shrini> thanks for the referels
16:05:49 <mohan43u> sugi: great to know about anish and you
16:06:16 <shrini> learnig and contributing as family is always a bliss
16:06:29 <sugi> shrini: And on the first day, when you asked him about writing, he said didn't have much idea in writing.  Immediately you called me to tell about blog writing - I was laughing
16:07:40 <sugi> sethu_payilagam: mohan43u yes so many wows.  Thought to share later on, like we wanted to do a project together 
16:08:17 <shrini> :-)
16:08:22 <sugi> shrini: so thought to ask the guidance, I am in search of a job so project will be helpful in my career.
16:08:50 <shrini> yes, as experienced IRC user and for our discussion, sugi should start mentoring for all new joinees here
16:08:54 <sugi> shrini: for him also he need for the same
16:09:23 <sethu_payilagam> You are truly an inspiration to all of us.. sugi!! Keep rocking!
16:09:33 <sugi> shrini: :)
16:09:53 <shrini> for anish, the answers for job search are here
16:09:54 <shrini> https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/how-to-get-a-computer-science-career/
16:10:02 <shrini> mostly fit for you too
16:10:26 <shrini> just keep learning,doing projects, writing and giving talk
16:10:35 <shrini> they will give you all the experience
16:10:46 <sugi> sethu_payilagam: Thanks sethu, as I have to restart my career I won't think about my age as it may reduce my speed.  Thatswhy later period shared
16:11:04 <mohan43u> shrini: dammit, shrini have a blog post for every situation in life 😀 , a true philosopher
16:11:17 <sethu_payilagam> :) :)
16:11:23 <sethu_payilagam> true that!
16:11:25 <shrini> we have opportunities for all sugi 
16:11:29 <shrini> age is just a number
16:12:27 <shrini> mohan43u: hahaha
16:12:32 <sugi> shrini: Muthu Sir knew, he only encouraged me to join here, so that you people will help me to learn more and can acquire some good job
16:12:39 <sethu_payilagam> shrini - can compete with Thiruvalluvar. for every situation bothe has got one reference!
16:12:52 <shrini> OMG
16:13:15 <shrini> we get same questions mostly
16:13:32 <shrini> blog is the best way to jot down all the answers
16:13:41 <sethu_payilagam> Love it!
16:13:43 <sugi> shrini: True shrini and Mohan your help and guidances are awesome, and really helping in many people lives
16:14:09 <shrini> I get job requests mostly from freshers. I share this link
16:14:33 <shrini> after reading it, only 2 will happen
16:14:47 <shrini> 1. they wont ask me same question again, for job
16:14:52 <shrini> or
16:15:07 <shrini> 2. they ask me for projects, do it and get job soon
16:15:32 <shrini> its easy for me to filter them
16:15:39 <shrini> to save my time and their time
16:16:16 <sugi> shrini: now he is in 3rd year only. 
16:16:32 <shrini> still he should read it and start following
16:16:53 <shrini> contributing to any FOSS software can be done easily
16:17:05 <shrini> with the good amount time, he is having now
16:17:08 <sugi> shrini: yes, now itself he started - and after joining here, he is learning extra
16:17:17 <shrini> thats good
16:18:11 <sugi> shrini: And I should thank to IRC, after joining here, he is calling me daily - thats giving a nice feel to me
16:18:51 <shrini> wow
16:18:55 <shrini> thats nice
16:19:05 <shrini> hope he is reading the chat logs daily
16:19:10 <shrini> he is an arch user already
16:19:12 <kaartic> shrini: >> I store all the content on one single file << you must be a fan of the Plaintext project, I believe :-)
16:19:17 <kaartic> https://plaintextproject.online/
16:19:18 <sugi> shrini: :-) yes its true, before he was not like that, even calls also won't attend much
16:19:39 <shrini> I am so happy
16:19:45 <shrini> to read these
16:19:58 <sugi> shrini: Thanks a lot Shrini.  
16:20:04 <shrini> yes kaartic I am much inspired by their posts.
16:20:35 <shrini> ask anish to give talks on kanchilug, ilugc
16:20:39 <sugi> shrini: Now one more thank you I should say in the future for my job - hopefully I am growing for that.
16:20:41 <shrini> pune has many tech groups
16:20:56 <shrini> you will get soon
16:21:11 <sugi> shrini: You please tell to him shrini, he won't refuse your words
16:21:34 <shrini> ask him to join whenever possible
16:21:47 <shrini> we can mention here only those who join
16:21:52 <sugi> shrini: dayafter tomorrow we both will join
16:22:05 <shrini> or we send the "call for speakers" email 
16:22:12 <shrini> in both ilugc and kanchilug
16:22:19 <shrini> no hurry sugi 
16:22:32 <shrini> have some good family time at home
16:22:39 <shrini> you can skip IRC
16:23:04 <shrini> join here, if you dont have any going out plans
16:23:27 <sugi> shrini: He won't speak much, so I am not sure what he will say.  But definitely he will give a try if you say
16:24:08 <sugi> shrini: sure shrini. Thanks, let me sign off now.
16:25:22 <shrini> kaartic: I think the plaintext project stopped writing new content
16:25:31 <shrini> still they have most of the tools covered already
16:25:46 <shrini> for me, emacs satisfies all the needs
16:26:07 <shrini> instead of trying many cLI tools, I just check for the same feature in emacs
16:26:23 <shrini> and it will be there already, waiting for me to find it
16:28:22 <shrini> hi itz_mr_evil 
16:28:30 <shrini> read todays logs
16:28:37 <shrini> there are few surprises
16:29:09 <shrini> hariharan: read today's chat log
16:30:40 <itz_mr_evil> sure shrini:
16:41:51 <shrini> itz_mr_evil: https://solvanam.com/2024/11/24/%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%A9%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BE-%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%A9%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BE/
16:41:55 <shrini> sorry 
16:42:11 <shrini> https://programmerlife1.wordpress.com/2024/12/01/curlftpfs-%E0%AE%92%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%81-%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B0%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%B5%E0%AF%88/
16:42:21 <shrini> this link on curlftpfs is nice
16:42:29 <shrini> எந்த அளவு பாதுகாப்பானது ?
16:42:42 <shrini> section seems missing few words or sentences
16:42:46 <shrini> update them
16:42:55 <shrini> publish the same on kaniyam.com too
16:49:58 <itz_mr_evil> read today's chat log is nice information sharing
16:50:57 <itz_mr_evil> the blog need some tweeks 
16:51:37 <itz_mr_evil> i wrote it in 20 mins before the kanchilug meet 
16:52:52 <itz_mr_evil> i planned that to present it in next monthly discussion but suddenly mood change and pushed me to present it yesterday itself 
16:57:26 <shrini> thats nice itz_mr_evil 
16:57:33 <shrini> thanks for the talk
16:57:36 <shrini> and the article
17:14:52 <itz_mr_evil> the article writing saved my time on creating a presentation 
17:16:56 <shrini> ளூஇ
17:16:57 <shrini> yes
17:17:06 <shrini> notes will help always
17:17:20 <shrini> next time, try tpp - terminal presentation application
17:17:26 <shrini> its easy
17:17:37 <shrini> if you are into emacs, try org-present
17:17:48 <shrini> to make text based presentations
17:17:58 <itz_mr_evil> no thanks and no sorry i have got some benifits from the community its my way of giving back
17:18:23 <itz_mr_evil> i am tryingout the emacs org mode 
17:18:32 <itz_mr_evil> for my next presentation 
17:22:53 <mohan43u> shrini: >>ளூஇ<< தமிழ்99 விசைப்பலகை 😀
17:24:03 <shrini> yes mohan43u 
17:24:07 <shrini> :-)
17:24:23 <shrini> wonderful itz_mr_evil 
17:24:32 <kaartic> shrini: ywah. they've stopped writing new content as the author believes he's exhaustively written about the topic. good that you are able to use Emacs for all your needs.
17:24:47 <kaartic> does it work well on mobile too?
17:25:02 <shrini> kaartic: emacs is only for computer
17:25:15 <shrini> few people use it on android
17:25:21 <shrini> but its overkill
17:25:56 <shrini> I even tried to sync my org file to mobile, use ot via orgzly app
17:26:13 <shrini> but, it breaks the file, as mine is too long file
17:26:13 <mohan43u> shrini: org file can be used through mobile, using orgzly
17:26:35 <shrini> two way sync, is bad for my long file
17:27:00 <shrini> so, I am staying with emacs on computer itself
17:27:26 <kaartic> got it. i too have faved the pain of conflict resolutions when it comes to keeping files in sync
17:27:27 <mohan43u> shrini: I use webdev method in orgzly to sync the tasks, my file is not that big anyway
17:27:41 <shrini> anyhow, I am using the mobile for communication and consumptions only. not creating anything with mobile
17:28:07 <shrini> mohan43u: for small files, orgzly works
17:28:38 <shrini> itz_mr_evil: one more request
17:28:47 <shrini> can you take care of kanchilug meetings?
17:29:25 <shrini> as parameshwar is leaving the role, we need someone to send call for speaker emails and meeting invite mails
17:51:49 <itz_mr_evil> thanks for considering me for the organizing kanchilug meetings pleasure to do it. I don't know how much I satisfy the expectation of kanchilug co-ordinator still iam need to build my skills to leverage those people organizing. I'll start from call for speaker and meeting invite mails only. Incrementally I'll take it further. For scheduling the talk live and other stuffs i need some time. ;)
18:02:39 <shrini> just send a mail to the list with showing your interest
18:02:51 <shrini> other things will happen easily
18:03:05 <shrini> thanks for your interest and confirmation
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18:17:01 <shrini> offline event at kanchipuram may take some time
18:17:11 <shrini> till then we can conttinue the online meetings