hello all

shrini-wc, can you join #indian for a while. wanna introduce someone

a guix user and gnu contributor from odisha, india

wow

joined

Hello everyone.

Glad to be here.

divya: welcome

divya: how did you end up here?

Hey, shrini-weechat got me here from another channel :)

divya: ooh, great.

divya is a GNU contributor

divya: can you share any blog or more info about your contributions ?

shrini-weechat: Sure, my blog is currently getting transferred between hosting providers. But yes, I'm a contributor to GNU Guix and GNU Emacs. In Guix, I contribute packages to the upstream guix repository. In Emacs I maintain a package called binder, and currently working on some patches for Gnus feed reader.

awesome

thanks for all your contributions

If any of you want any changes/modifications to any free software you use or help in making changes yourself, please feel free to ping me

sure

we are a very small group of people trying to do some open source projects

some projects are tamil language related too

few of our project ideas are discussed here

Oh, great. I admire such groups. Brings the social life back into programming, as it always should've been.

we conduct some online trainings, meetings in tamil

here is the calendar for some events

shrini-weechat: Also, I'd recommend using something else other than github. Codeberg is better, since its a non-profit and is similar in structure.

Github is a malicious place.

I myself recently use it only as a mirror and all of my primary repositories in Codeberg

good

is codeberg free?

Yes

what about gitlab?

Gitlab is the same unless you yourself host an instance of it.

There's GNU Savannah and Sourcehut as well.

If you want help with the migration, I'd be glad.

will explore them

🙏 Appreciate

for guix or emacs packaging, what skills we need?

hope we can bring many non programmers into contributions via packakage maintanence

divya: share any link, to start for beginners

hello sugi

hello mahii

shrini-weechat: For Guix, you need some familiarity with the Scheme language in general and specifically how Guie uses Scheme for package building and other things. It is easier, in my opinion, than other package building pipelines. It took me a few weeks to get used to it and send my first patch :)

Good day Everyone! Good morning shrini

Hi everyone

Hi shrini

Here's the official packaging tutorial: guix.gnu.org/cookbook/en/html_node/Packaging-Tutorial.html

Hello, sugi. Nice to meet you.

Hi divya, pleased to meet you

exploring about guix.

some time back, goldayan gave a talk about that in a kanchilug meet

sugi: read todays chat log too

ok shrini

got some interesting chats with divya , a gnu guix, emacs contributor

shrini-weechat: Oh nice, I'll try to available for the talks. Would be nice. Are they in English?

kanchilug talks are in tamil

ilugc ( chennaiLUG ) talks are in english

Understood.

sugi: mahii sethu_payilagam please share the daily updates here

Started learning about HTML, CSS and JS as part of the python_payilagam syllabus shrini. Doing a few hands on on those.

good sethu_payilagam

if possible, give an intro to js in kanchilug meet

ok shrini. I will try for sure.

divya: our blogs are aggregated here

let me know if we can add your blog too there

Sure, will do.

shrini-weechat: read shrini. let me share my honest opinion, when I read I feel like a kid on my head. I could not understand much, but I must admit that divya's contributions are certainly great.

ah

dont think that way

sugi: Oh, are you referring to the Guix packaging tutorial?

yes divya

every one have their own learning path and years

of experiene

I am just beginner in linux

thats always fine

using linux is the entry path for the contributions

you can also contribute to FOSS in near future

sugi: No worries, it happens gradually. I had to keep using guix on the side for months before I could wrap my head around it.

but feeling great chatting with you people

you started already by giving talks and writing blogs

Oh, nice sugi that's already a great step!

shrini-weechat: definitely shrini, I will contribute

divya: Thank you so much for your appreciative words divya

If I can find time I'll make a talk out of the tutorial and maybe present to those interested.

shrini-weechat: In our village school HM requested to help out students for their National Means-cum-Merit Scholarship Scheme (NMMS) exam, which will help them for their studies & scholarship. The exam held on 8th December. I'm helping them Logical & Reasoning concepts. So I'm busy right now.

oh thats nice mahii

good work

shrini-weechat: today learning and working on some postgreSQL homework which is assigned by Syed Jafer.

sugi: the overwhelming feleing you had is called impostor syndrome. it is very common to programmers. every experienced ones. you'll learn to overcome it over time :-)

mahii: Very Good Mahii

kaartic: Thank you kaartic, hope so.

shrini-weechat, check dm

Thanks shrini-weechat, sugi

kaartic: Well said, I experienced it a few hours ago :)

mahii: is NMMS applicable for all states? is it a central government scheme?

:-)

mohan43u: Central Government

sugi: just keep on using linux and very soon, you find your way of contributions

there are many ways to do

programming is only one way of them

there are tons of other ways

shrini-weechat: ok shrini

mohan43u: I don't know about it for all states. But it is Central Government Scheme

we have to find alternate for slideshare

the recent changes are bad

they even took away the slides view too

download is another nightmare

mahii: yeah, I see the details here education.gov.in/nmms , interesting

shrini-weechat: Yesterday I forgot to share my blog here gorlamahesh.wordpress.com/2024/11/26/what-is-irc

mahii: looks like this is for class 8 students

mohan43u: Yes

mahii: thanks

adding this blog too in the freshrss

mohan43u: In our village Govt school upto only 8th

mahii: nice article.

mahii: good writing

Thank you guys shrini-weechat mohan43u

keep writing more whenever you get time

you can write about the works for the school too

mahii: you must be from a small village with one or two streets

mahii: Informative and understandable blog mahii

shrini-weechat: Okay shrini I'll take leave. First I need to prepare and to help students

mohan43u: yes

mahii: :)

mohan43u: Billupadu Village, Chejerla Mandal, Nellore District, Andhra Pradesh

Hello everyone

Thanks sugi

welcome praem90

mahii: great to see someone from that kind of background mate.

mohan43u: :-)

shrini-weechat: //we have to find alternate for slideshare / this website contains only slides shrini?

yes

slideshare is only for slides

they had very nice view of slides long back

shrini-weechat: Now we have to move all content to some FOSS which is efficient and sharable?

will be good, if we can find good alternate to move all our slides

to another free site

with easy view/download option

shrini-weechat: let me try to search from monday (as I have some preparations and homework this week)

moved few of my slides here

shrini-weechat: ok

but not having good slide view

sethu_payilagam: learn the javascript quickly

we have many wikipedians who are looking for help

to customize their wikipedia user interface and workflow

will ask them to share their requirements

Thank you sugi, divya, kaartic, shrini. All those you discussed applies to me as well. And good to know a new word "imposter syndrome". Thank you kaartic

we can do more customizations for wikipedia with javascript

Sure Shrini.

known things are always handful. unknown things are like ocean

Again.. I dont know how to compare myself with anything or anyone.. i get easily overwhelmed by the terms and discussions happening around me and will go back to my own shell :( but trying to overcome that feel slowly.. also as I originally said I will easily get carried away.. i am still working on fixing those by reading the book eat the frog. :)

shrini-weechat: yes shrini. I always feel what you said. In tamil, கற்றது கையளவு கல்லாதது உலகளவு

sethu_payilagam: Me too, sethu.

shrini-weechat: I should learn markdown editor, right shrini?

shrini.. need your help. Can you please provide a small modification that you would want on the billing app. I know you asked me to compare one of the actual bills and try to replicate.. For some reason I felt that as too much left untouched. It would be great if you could tell me a small change to start with. and can add the changes incrementaly

sugi: :)

:)

sugi: markdown is one one of the way we can write text files

to create good documentation

its good to know that so that you can write all your text notes in markdown

learning new things is a life long process

we will be learning always till the last day

shrini-weechat: ok shrini, let me start from Monday-mark down learning

so, nothing to worry or panic

sethu_payilagam: hope the billing application is a CLI

can you read the prices from a CSV file?

/we will be learning always till the last day/ I like this line

shrini-weechat : I've found speakerdeck to be a good alternative to slideshare. it has a great UX. it even allows linking to specific slide of a slidedeck

I did those shrini

nice kaartic

will check that

i was able to use the data from the database.

ok sethu_payilagam

the bill is also ready

yes

shrini-weechat: shrini, let me join tomorrow. thank you all.

are you storing the bills in a database?

ok sugi

good night

sethu_payilagam: can you query a bill with bill number?

No shrini. I am using the price and item from the database and priting the bill in pdf format

and print as pdf?

i stopped there

sethu_payilagam: store the bill in a database

ok shrini

so that we can query and print later

i will try that and come back. I hope you are asking me to store the input (to the pdf) as a value in the DB

es

yes

all the shops will store all the bills

ok

so that we can use it refer on return

or any doubts in future

we can use that db, to get reports like what products are sold mostly, and least

so that we can plan for discounts on the low sold items

I got that shrini. But thinking about the format to store. I will try and come back if I have any doubts

Thank you shrini. Talk to you later.

ok sethu_payilagam

designing the tables for the bill is the tricker thing

think of that and share the table design in your blog

hi shrini-weechat:

hi all

read log today

hi Varun7771

thanks

had good conversation today

about divya's interaction on GNU contribution

yes

missed that before

more busy on theekkathir scraping

Finally done writing pipelines shini

need to learn selenium

Varun7771: do you feel selenium is better way to scrap instead of writing crawler in python?

mohan43u: yes mohan43u, no pagination support from theekkathir :-(

I have to click "Load more" button to scrape more

articles

feels tougher

hi hariharan:

Hi Varun7771 github link? Date converter

hariharan: sorry hariharan, I havent push my code on github

No issues just a reminder

You can push and let me know I'll lookingo

wait for a while,

I have done 90%

Varun7771: always follow this - release daily

dont want to complte the code and then release the code

have a dev branch and publish the code daily

which will help in million ways

Oh okk shrini

what is the importance of releasing dev branch and main branch

shall we dont push directly to main branch at the time of release?

Dev branch is rough note

Main branch is faire note concept

Can you relatr this

?

yeah hariharan

this is best practice for creating any open source project right?

This is not said as best practice

This is one of the practice you can use it and make it best with your thoughts (:)

o/

hariharan: here is the link

a tutorial on package maintenance would be good and so many ppl can contribute

here is guix docs annamalai

shrini-weechat thanks, will have a look at it

ah annamalai

i did sent a remainder mail to beej few days back but he hasn't responded yet

where do you live?

not sleeping yet?

in Trichy

sleep soon

that's because i was playing games with classmates and it took time

yes i should

:-)

enjoy the great times

annamalai: games in linux?

yes its our olt year in bachelors

mohan43u no, cards physically

olt year? final year ?

everyone thought to avoid much of screen time

shrini-weechat yes

nice descision

annamalai: good

these also good tutorials on packaging for guix

#guix irc is so active

check their logs here

here the bot code they use

here the code for the web view of the logs

all the code are written in schema language

it is kind of lisp