14:29:06 <sethu_irccloud> Good day everyone! 
14:31:11 <sethu_irccloud> Nothing much to update from my python side. Still need to resume my work on the billingapp task.
14:31:45 <sethu_irccloud> mohan43u and shrini: completed dhurvangal in record 3 days. :) thank you again. 
14:32:49 <sethu_irccloud> Came to office and I am not sure I can be active here. If not I will continue tomorrow. Thank you again for the motivation to make me a "reader"! :)
14:33:01 <sethu_irccloud> Have a great day everyone!
14:34:31 <shrini> thats nice sethu_irccloud 
14:35:02 <shrini>  hope you will be still in the blues of the book
14:35:59 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: nice. hope you will send email to author 😀
14:36:25 <shrini> yes, write a blog and send email to author quickly
14:36:29 <shrini> dont delay on writing
14:36:47 <shrini> we can not bring the same feeling of today, if we write few days later
14:37:50 <sethu_irccloud> :) yes mohan43u. You are correct. I will do it today. Worst case I will start a voice recording before I forget and I will put it down in writings later. 
14:38:11 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: I hope you now know how to learn any commands in linux and how to learn anything through linux
14:38:50 <sethu_irccloud> Yes shrini. After completing the book I was like "what will I be doing from tomorrow?" "Where will I search and hear about those wonderful characters?"
14:39:46 <sethu_irccloud> Yes mohan43u. Infact I read 50% of the book sitting next to my Linux machine so I was able to check the commands he mentioned :)
14:40:52 <sethu_irccloud> Amazed to what extent the lead character used his Linux proficiency during the hacking and the sound system setup towards the end. If that character is real I want to go meet him.. 😀
14:41:34 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: >>I read 50% of the book sitting next to my Linux machine<< thats is exactly the way to read that book, do the commands the book mention and learn it through our linux machine. Great that you did exactly how the author envisoned.
14:42:01 <sethu_irccloud> :)
14:43:01 <sethu_irccloud> Apologies to everyone else in the group for bypassing and the flooding message which is not related to any programming. I know I spoke a lot in the past 3 days. Hope you all don't mind! 
14:46:25 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: >>the sound system setup towards the end<< the way Hero broadcast AAR's pongal music to those big screens and sound systems using his mobile is one of the highlight in that book.
14:47:40 <shrini> sethu_irccloud: this is what we need here. IRC is not only for tech
14:47:56 <shrini> it is to meet people and share what we have
14:48:38 <shrini> I still hear the loud music on the marriage event and the see the hollywood style password cracking moments
14:48:47 <shrini> IRC was used there too
14:53:30 <mohan43u> shrini: IRC is still the home for hackers 😀 https://xkcd.com/1782/
14:55:03 <sethu_irccloud> :)
14:57:03 <sethu_irccloud> I have created a separate playlist of all the songs that is mentioned in the book.. especially stunned to know about the song from Kadhalan(indirayo..). I am not sure how many of us are aware of that fact. Atleast I wasn't aware before I read.
14:57:56 <sethu_irccloud> The list goes on and on and on.. so let me put all in a writing soon. 
15:00:20 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: 90's ARR was a god just like 80's Raja sir.
15:02:53 <sethu_irccloud> Very true.. 
15:04:12 <sethu_irccloud> About the lyricist of that song mohan43u.. I thought it was vairamuthu till date.
15:06:40 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: yeah, lot of us come to know about the lyricist of that song just like you.
15:09:48 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: share the playlist with us
15:12:03 <sethu_irccloud> Sure mohan43u.
15:28:37 <sugi> Hi everyone.
15:30:44 <sugi> sethu_irccloud: You and Mohan are immersed in the novel, I think
15:32:46 <sethu_irccloud> mohan43u: and shrini are seniors in that college. I am just in the first year first semester ;) I hope you will also join us in the journey sugi.
15:34:15 <sugi> sethu_irccloud: :) I won't take that book right now,  I could feel that its very good from you people's words
15:35:33 <sugi> sethu_irccloud: My habit is if I take any book I will not put it down till I complete, my world become that book.  Right now so many pending portions to read in course.
15:37:09 <sugi> sethu_irccloud: Really I wish to  when I am hearing these kind of words.  
15:37:17 <sethu_irccloud> Ok :) but to let you know. I am not a seasoned reader and if I could complete it in 3 days.. you will be able to complete it no time. But still, we will wait for your feedback.. someday down the line.. 
15:37:46 <sugi> sethu_irccloud: yes sure
15:37:53 <shrini-weechat> hi sugi 
15:38:16 <sugi> Hi Shrini
15:39:03 <shrini-weechat> https://sugidiary.wordpress.com/2024/11/21/irc-my-understanding-v2-0/
15:39:07 <shrini-weechat> good intro about IRC
15:39:13 <shrini-weechat> thanks for the blog and talk
15:39:22 <sugi> shrini-weechat: CV updation over, but for programmer-CV also, I should modify.
15:39:27 <shrini-weechat> what is the plan for this sunday talk?
15:39:40 <shrini-weechat> ok
15:39:51 <sugi> Thanks Shrini - all because of you people's motivation and guidance
15:40:13 <shrini-weechat> with all your interest/time/efforts too
15:40:15 <shrini-weechat> https://reachmesethu.wordpress.com/2024/11/21/readingeat-the-frog-ch-2/
15:40:19 <shrini-weechat> good blog sethu_irccloud 
15:40:27 <shrini-weechat> please continue writing more
15:40:42 <shrini-weechat> plan for this sunday talk and send mails
15:40:43 <shrini-weechat> hi mahii 
15:40:54 <sugi> shrini-weechat: not planned yet
15:40:54 <shrini-weechat> did you subscribe to the mailing lists?
15:41:09 <shrini-weechat> plan the topic today and send mail
15:41:24 <sugi> shrini-weechat: yes receiving mails whoever send
15:41:42 <shrini-weechat> mahii joined recently here
15:41:54 <shrini-weechat> asked him to join the mailing lists
15:42:15 <sugi> shrini-weechat: you please tell Shrini, but if its from java like that it will be more useful I think
15:42:17 <shrini-weechat> hope you all are reading the ODOC mails too
15:42:32 <shrini-weechat> you can give a talk on java too
15:42:40 <shrini-weechat> you decide the topic
15:42:44 <shrini-weechat> I dont know java
15:42:59 <shrini-weechat> pick some topic on java and give a talk on tht
15:43:14 <sugi> shrini-weechat: You will learn in one day (java)
15:43:38 <sugi> shrini-weechat: let me discuss with Muthu Sir and will send email
15:43:53 <shrini-weechat> dont ask him
15:43:59 <shrini-weechat> you think and send mail
15:44:22 <shrini-weechat> it is a good practise to work by self
15:44:34 <shrini-weechat> then only you can go long path
15:44:34 <sugi> shrini-weechat: But Shrini, he could help in selecting the topic which can be useful for all
15:44:42 <shrini-weechat> no no
15:44:49 <shrini-weechat> all topics are useful
15:44:53 <mahii> Hii
15:45:00 <shrini-weechat> as a developer, should do your search
15:45:14 <shrini-weechat> think like a developer
15:45:19 <shrini-weechat> you are not a beginner
15:45:24 <mahii> I've subscribe the mailing lists
15:45:30 <shrini-weechat> nice mahii 
15:45:32 <shrini-weechat> thanks
15:45:46 <shrini-weechat> sugi: you think on some topic and share here
15:46:03 <shrini-weechat> it can be anything on java or FOSS
15:46:11 <mahii> shrini-weechat: :-)
15:46:43 <sugi> shrini-weechat: whether is it for one day session or series?  If series I could start from OOPs topic
15:47:02 <shrini-weechat> your choise
15:48:06 <sugi> Shrini, anybody spoke about OOPs or java before?
15:50:03 <shrini-weechat> dont worry about the history
15:51:03 <shrini-weechat> kanchilug is there from 20 Nov 2006
15:51:12 <shrini-weechat> https://www.freelists.org/post/kanchilug/welcome,48
15:51:21 <shrini-weechat> all the topics might be discussed already
15:51:30 <shrini-weechat> dont worry about the previous talks
15:51:46 <shrini-weechat> your talk will be new with all new audience
15:51:51 <sugi> OK Shrini, let me take partial OOPs - if time not permits let me continue for next sunday
15:53:47 <shrini-weechat> make it as a series
15:54:27 <sugi> OK Shrini, but in between if I have personal commitments, can I take a break that week?
15:54:47 <shrini-weechat> its okey if you are not available
15:55:05 <sugi> OK Shrini. I will do.
15:55:33 <sugi> Thanks Shrini for all.
15:57:09 <shrini-weechat> sugi: all our actions planned here are volunteer tasks only
15:57:17 <shrini-weechat> do on your own pace
15:57:30 <shrini-weechat> always balance the personal works and the FOSS contributions
15:57:48 <shrini-weechat> As you only know your priorities, plan them well
15:58:04 <shrini-weechat> Feel free to reject the tasks asked here
15:58:11 <shrini-weechat> reject or postpone
15:58:32 <shrini-weechat> always plan for peaceful execution of the activities
15:58:45 <sugi> OK Shrini.  Thanks a lot lot lot.
15:59:35 <sugi> Let me connect tomorrow Shrini. Thanks.
16:01:14 <shrini-weechat> sure. thanks.
16:01:26 <shrini-weechat> mahii: share your updates
16:01:30 <shrini-weechat> any blog?
16:07:49 <shrini-weechat> annamalai: any updates?
16:34:01 <mahii> I've installed Ubuntu try to learn 
16:55:04 <shrini-weechat> mahii: thats good
16:55:19 <shrini-weechat> full install or dual boot?
16:55:50 <shrini-weechat> write your installallation story as a blog
16:56:04 <shrini-weechat> write your daily learning notes/progress as blog and sahre here daily
16:56:21 <shrini-weechat> that will help a lot
16:56:48 <mahii> Dual boot
16:57:50 <mahii> I'll start a blog and I'll try to share my updates 
16:58:28 <mahii> shrini-weechat: :-)
17:07:48 <shrini-weechat> good to know that you managed to have a working dual boot on first try itelf
17:08:30 <shrini-weechat> most of the time spent on TLC forum with solving dual boot issues, that too remotely via QA
17:08:53 <shrini-weechat> hope we should promote native install to save all ours time
17:09:16 <shrini-weechat> mahii: hope you can do all the acitvities with linux itself
17:09:29 <shrini-weechat> note down the urge to boot into windows
17:09:35 <shrini-weechat> and share here the reasons
17:09:51 <shrini-weechat> so that we can realise the needs of a new user
17:10:01 <shrini-weechat> stay with linux
17:10:09 <shrini-weechat> start learning the commands
17:10:25 <shrini-weechat> the command line is the treasure island
17:10:41 <annamalai> shrini-weechat: nope. I did mailed beej more than a week back but no response from him. Maybe I can send a remainder mail/ ping him else where
17:10:48 <shrini-weechat> install weechat and join to this IRC chat using weechat
17:11:01 <shrini-weechat> annamalai: ok
17:11:17 <shrini-weechat> annamalai: can you share some details on what the mail is about?
17:11:26 <shrini-weechat> there are many people reading the chat logs daily
17:11:38 <shrini-weechat> giving more details will them to understand whats going on
17:15:25 <annamalai> like I said him that a tamil translation of gdb guide was done based on the project idea from kaniyam foundation which he can view through the github link and said i have hopes that he would welcome this initiative
17:15:46 <shrini-weechat> super
17:15:56 <shrini-weechat> what is the license of the original content?
17:17:09 <annamalai> some mod on cc 3.0, it has been updated now  in the github same as of original as beej mentioned
17:17:37 <annamalai> based on suggestions from mohan43u and goldayan
17:18:42 <shrini-weechat> CC licensed content can be translated unless there is no clause of " no derivatives"
17:18:55 <shrini-weechat> still good to inform the author about the efforts
17:19:40 <shrini-weechat> if you wish, will give author access to kaniyam.com so that you can publish there directly
17:19:46 <shrini-weechat> as a multi part series
17:20:00 <shrini-weechat> you can start new series or individual articles too
17:27:35 <annamalai> it licensed with ND but with a specific exception to translation. he hasn't mentioned it on the gdb webpage but it does host a Russian translation and he has mentioned it for all other guides.
17:28:35 <annamalai> i can but I feel it would be better if he acknowledges this and then we start posting it as a mini series and also i have my exams now so..
17:42:04 <mohan43u> annamalai: he might not have time to read your mail. Don't worry about his permission, since you changed your derivative work's license to follow the rules of the original license, then you can publish as you wish
17:48:00 <annamalai> mohan43u hmm ok, then it would be fine for me.
18:05:12 <shrini-weechat> send him a reminder mail though
19:39:32 <annamalai> yeah sure.