08:35:24 <sugi> Hi Shrini
08:35:58 <sugi> shrini: saw your email reg children screen time limitation
08:37:35 <sugi> shrini: should it be like FOSS only? becuase I am using Google's Family Link app 
08:39:23 <sugi> shrini: that app installed in parent's mobile as well as child's mobile, parent can fix the screen time, apps blocking, time limit for each app etc. You can have a look at it.
14:05:04 <shrini> hello boopalan 
14:05:48 <boopalan> hello shrini , how are you?
14:06:05 <shrini> doing good
14:06:15 <shrini> are you attending the db classes?
14:06:19 <shrini> if not, attend now
14:06:45 <shrini> https://meet.jit.si/DatabaseEngineeringWithParottasalna
14:06:48 <shrini> join here
14:07:11 <boopalan> thank you, see you tomorrow 
14:52:28 <sugi> Hi Shrini
15:20:11 <Varun777> hi all
15:27:02 <sethu_payilagam> Good day Everyone!
15:29:59 <shrini-irccloud> Hello all
15:30:23 <shrini-irccloud> How was the db class today?
15:30:43 <sethu_payilagam> It was good shrini. Covered the installation and architecture
15:30:51 <shrini-irccloud> Nice
15:33:07 <sethu_payilagam> shrini- Need your help. I am unable to configure IRCCloud in my mobile. Not sure where and what I am missing. 
15:34:36 <sethu_payilagam> what is the hostname/port that i need to specify in the connection detail
15:35:30 <shrini-irccloud> irc.libera.chat
15:35:35 <shrini-irccloud> 6667
15:35:43 <shrini-irccloud> This is what I use
15:36:08 <sethu_payilagam> ok ok shrini. Should I enable SSL?
15:37:24 <sethu_payilagam> also should i provide anything under the advanced options section? like Nickserv password, server password and commands to run to connect?
15:38:45 <shrini-irccloud> No
15:39:00 <shrini-irccloud> Just hostname, port, Nick name is enough for now
15:39:10 <shrini-irccloud> No need of SSL too
15:39:18 <shrini-irccloud> Just to check the connections
15:39:24 <shrini-irccloud> You can enable SSL later too
15:40:01 <sethu_payilagam> ok shrini. I will give a try. I think I exhausted the attempts. I need to wait for 11 more minutes
15:41:13 <shrini-irccloud> Ok
15:41:21 <sethu_payilagam> Thank you, shrini
15:41:26 <shrini-irccloud> How is your book reading?
15:41:33 <shrini-irccloud> And projects?
15:42:15 <sethu_payilagam> No update on the projects yet shrini. I have to still work on my billing app. 
15:42:45 <shrini-irccloud> Ok
15:42:46 <sethu_payilagam> regarding reading.. I have last few episodes pending.. will complete in a day max, shrini
15:42:55 <shrini-irccloud> Nice
15:43:42 <sethu_payilagam> I think i got connected now shrini
15:44:02 <shrini-irccloud> I can still hear the songs from duruvangal book scenes
15:44:05 <shrini-irccloud> Good
15:44:37 <shrini-irccloud> Varun777: sugi hi
15:44:47 <shrini-irccloud> Hope it is too late for you
15:45:06 <shrini-irccloud> You can write your updates anytime
15:45:16 <shrini-irccloud> Will get from the logs
15:46:19 <sethu_payilagam> I can still hear the songs from duruvangal book scenes - very true.. added chinnakuyil and yamunai atrile songs to my list :)
15:47:11 <sethu_payilagam> couldn't quite get the other song that the girl sung at kayals home.. searching for it 
15:48:47 <sethu_payilagam> Thanks Shrini. I am now able to connect to irccloud from my mobile
15:49:30 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: chinnakuyil? you mean chinna kannan song?
15:50:46 <sethu_payilagam> yes mohan43u. The film name is chinnakuyil
15:50:50 <shrini-irccloud> :-)
15:51:03 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: kavikuyil
15:51:14 <sethu_payilagam> :D I am sorry
15:51:27 <sethu_payilagam> got mixed up.. you are great mohan43u
15:51:42 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: :)
15:52:13 <shrini-irccloud> The only sad thing about the book is, after finished the book, we feel miss that nice world.
15:52:14 <sethu_payilagam> help me get the details of the song that Karthika sing at Kayals home during pre-wedding ceremony
15:52:40 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: that telugu song?
15:52:48 <sethu_payilagam> yes mohan43u
15:53:18 <sethu_payilagam> with all the appreciation that the group provides.i couldn't proceed without knowing the song. :D
15:53:43 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: https://youtu.be/tfBanyJqwtk?si=66HAoI5vTrk3zjUt
15:55:14 <sethu_irccloud> ❤️❤️🙏
15:55:27 <sethu_payilagam> Thanks mohan43u!
15:55:47 <mohan43u> shrini-irccloud: >>we feel miss that nice world<< don't make me read that book again brother :)
15:56:03 <sethu_payilagam> Also I heard the other song that Madhan sung for the first time
15:56:21 <sethu_payilagam> what a song? #yeppo varuvano
15:56:46 <sethu_payilagam> i tried fixing a face and a voice for Madhan and tring to visualize.
15:56:57 <sethu_payilagam> mohan43u: join me ;)
15:57:44 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: https://youtu.be/FAvsBGHa8ws?si=rWOv0shqtw73oyiV , this is the actual singer who sung that song
15:59:54 <shrini-irccloud> I have to read it again
16:00:06 <sethu_payilagam> super mohan43u. Thanks again
16:00:19 <shrini-irccloud> But the current open books are angry on me already
16:00:33 <sethu_payilagam> :)
16:00:52 <sethu_payilagam> share your inprogress list shrini
16:02:05 <shrini-irccloud> Books on drupal, scratch programming, digital archives, large language models are in current reading
16:02:27 <shrini-irccloud> Last week got few Tamil books from local library
16:02:39 <shrini-irccloud> Tho paramasivan bookd
16:02:42 <shrini-irccloud> Books
16:05:06 <shrini> will complete these books and take duruvangal again
16:05:09 <shrini> may in few weeks
16:05:44 <shrini> I have to teach scratch for our condo/apartment kids 
16:05:52 <shrini> in this winter
16:05:59 <shrini> and python for adults
16:06:16 <shrini> few guys are asking me for excel macro class
16:06:26 <shrini> will pull them to python
16:08:23 <shrini> we should ask the duruvangal author natkeeran for the next part or new strory
16:08:48 <mohan43u> excel macro? I heard excel have python support now
16:09:23 <shrini> with new adventures like promotion, onsite etc along with gaming, python etc
16:09:52 <shrini> excel support for python is on very recent versions only.
16:10:01 <shrini> but most of them dont have recent version
16:10:25 <shrini> still, will show them how python can help them to handle their work
16:11:59 <shrini> payilagam muthu started a similar series for python
16:12:06 <shrini> have to ask him to continue it
16:12:14 <shrini> he is getting too busy nowadats
16:13:41 <mohan43u> shrini: >>duruvangal author natkeeran for the next part or new strory<< hope he get a good story and enough time to write book like dhuruvangal again 😀
16:17:45 <shrini> mohan43u: you too send him mail
16:17:55 <shrini> ask him for a talk at kanchilug or ilugc mail
16:18:05 <shrini> he ignores such requests always
16:18:22 <shrini> atleast he should start the next book
16:24:09 <mohan43u> >>you too send him mail<< yes, I should 😀
16:27:47 <mohan43u> last week I spoke to Ranjith (member of ILUGC), he said he is going to talk a workshop on Linux in one Trichy Collage for ECE students. His friend is the HOD of that department in that collage. I ask him to make sure you direct the students to KanchiLUG and ILUGC meetings TLC for further help
16:28:05 <mohan43u> ^s/talk/take/g
16:28:54 <mohan43u> penitrating into collage and schools is very difficult for FOSS groups like us
16:30:04 <shrini> thats nice
16:30:52 <mohan43u> I hope someone come to our group with good strategy to go to these schools and collages, we still dont have a good knowledge about how to apprach the schools and collages, we are stuck with our own work and day to day life.
16:32:39 <shrini> school and colleges have their own goals and policies
16:33:02 <shrini> they will hear the govt 
16:33:16 <shrini> or the companies who can do the campus selection
16:33:22 <sethu_payilagam> I have to teach scratch for our condo/apartment kids -super shrini.  I wish we could be closer to each other.. :(
16:33:53 <shrini> sethu_payilagam: its time for you learn and teach for your neighbor kids
16:33:59 <shrini> learn scratch and teach 
16:34:02 <shrini> it is so easy
16:35:16 <shrini> hi mahii 
16:35:38 <mahii> Hii shrini 
16:35:45 <sethu_payilagam> Sure shrini
16:35:57 <shrini> mahii: are you working on any project/
16:35:58 <shrini> ?
16:36:03 <shrini> share any updates 
16:36:08 <mahii> Nope
16:36:26 <shrini> interested to do?
16:36:32 <shrini> how can we help?
16:36:45 <mahii> yes
16:37:41 <shrini> share some intro about you
16:37:50 <shrini> so that we can pick some project for you to work on
16:38:00 <mahii> shrini: okay
16:39:15 <mahii> shrini: I'm Mahesh from Nellore, Andhra Pradesh. I've completed my BE in Computer Science from RMK COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING AND TECHNOLOGY in Chennai. 
16:40:09 <shrini> good
16:40:10 <shrini> welcome
16:40:23 <shrini> how do you know about this irc session?
16:40:37 <mahii> shrini: Thanks
16:41:08 <mahii> shrini: varun invited me
16:51:41 <shrini> good
16:51:53 <shrini> are you in chennai now?
16:52:03 <shrini> https://www.freelists.org/list/ilugc
16:52:09 <shrini> https://www.freelists.org/list/kanchilug
16:52:14 <shrini> join these mailing lists
16:52:20 <shrini> https://kaniyam.com/events/
16:52:33 <shrini> add the google calendar link here, to your calendar
16:52:44 <shrini> so that you can get to know about many events happening
16:53:05 <shrini> mahii: do you know any programming languages?
16:53:26 <shrini> https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/how-to-get-a-computer-science-career/
16:53:34 <shrini> read this blog and share your thoughts
16:53:53 <shrini> mahii: if it is too late for you, you can join tomorrow also
16:54:01 <shrini> start writing something daily here
16:54:07 <shrini> dont be silent
16:54:32 <shrini> https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2020/04/14/why-i-like-irc-internet-relay-chat-even-in-2020/
16:54:47 <shrini> https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2024/10/21/open-source-projects-mentoring-via-irc/
16:54:51 <shrini> read these links
16:57:05 <mahii> shrini: no I'm in my hometown Nellore 
16:57:21 <mahii> shrini:I know python 
16:58:10 <mahii> shrini: I'll read
16:59:57 <shrini> good mahi
17:00:08 <shrini> are you using linux?
17:02:28 <mahii> no
17:02:54 <shrini> try to install ubuntu or linux mint in your computer
17:03:04 <shrini> may be start as dual boot
17:03:21 <shrini> before installing linux, take backup of all your data
17:03:28 <shrini> it may wipe out entire disk
17:03:35 <shrini> we can not recover deleted files
17:04:13 <shrini> as you dont have any college courses related to any other Os, you can install linux and start using it completely
17:04:34 <shrini> do you have any blog or git url?
17:07:20 <mahii> I don't have blog 
17:07:55 <mahii> https://github.com/maheshmahi18
17:09:13 <mahii> I'll use virtualbox to install linux
17:09:26 <mahii> Is it okay? 
17:09:52 <shrini> no
17:10:04 <shrini> you wont learn anything with virtualbox
17:10:14 <shrini> it is like seeing videos to learn swimming
17:12:31 <shrini> what are things you can do with python?
17:19:05 <mahii> shrini: things means? 
17:20:27 <mahii> shrini: Dual boot it's not okay for me any other way? 
17:23:27 <shrini> mahii: what are your dependency on windows for now?
17:25:00 <shrini> another question on python. I visited your git url
17:25:11 <shrini> you have some python projects there
17:25:25 <shrini> thats why asked what you can do with python
17:25:32 <mahii> shrini: Currently using and we'll setted up so.. 
17:25:40 <shrini> :-)
17:26:31 <shrini> https://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/how-to-get-a-computer-science-career/
17:26:48 <shrini> if you are still awake and can read, read this now and share your thoughts
17:27:00 <mahii> shrini: okay 
17:32:31 <fury999io> hi all
17:32:34 <fury999io> happy hacking
17:33:36 <fury999io> >2 lakh students complete their studies in Tamil Nadu
17:33:44 <fury999io> 2 lakhs from cse alone????!!!
17:34:17 <shrini> for all college degrees
17:34:33 <shrini> they can study any degree and can enter into IT
17:34:51 <fury999io> ohk
17:35:38 <fury999io> in overall india its probably around 20 lakhs
17:35:56 <shrini> may be
17:36:20 <fury999io> even if everyone of them have equally good skills, still 90% won't get jobs. it's very sad truth :(
17:36:35 <fury999io> we need to grow other industries in india
17:37:04 <shrini> it will take time
17:37:15 <shrini> in few decades, will happen
17:37:23 <fury999io> hmm
17:41:01 <mahii> "When you use the Command Line, many things will become clearer to you." I'm convinced I'll try to install Linux.
17:41:17 <shrini> :-)
17:41:25 <shrini> welcome to the real world
17:42:11 <mahii> shrini: Thanks for the guiding 
17:43:27 <shrini> explore the other links shared here today
17:43:34 <shrini> start a blog at https://dev.to
17:43:50 <shrini> and write about the learnings and the links daily
17:43:57 <shrini> share the daily blog link here
17:46:44 <mahii> shrini: "thats why asked what you can do with python" What you seen in my github, the projects all done by using ChatGPT
17:47:19 <shrini> :-)
17:48:04 <shrini> companies will start paying to chatgpt instead of employess, very soon
17:48:36 <shrini> that why I asked, what you can do with python?
17:48:57 <shrini> its ok to use stackoverflow, google search or ai tools
17:49:12 <shrini> but what we know is important
17:50:18 <mahii> Normal stuff like lists, strings 
17:51:03 <mahii> I can write code by logic apply that's all I can do 
17:51:23 <shrini> nice
17:51:29 <shrini> that will be a good start
17:51:39 <shrini> start building an addressbook
17:51:55 <mahii> okay 
17:52:08 <mahii> I'll install Linux Tommorow 
17:52:09 <shrini> get name, streetname, city, phone number, email and store in a csv file
17:52:14 <shrini> thats great
17:52:41 <shrini> subscribe to the two mailing lists I shared abive
17:52:47 <shrini> kanchilug and ilugc
17:52:48 <mahii> shrini: Okay I'll do
17:55:24 <mohan43u> mahii: make sure you understand what you are doing while installing Linux for dual boot, if you need help, ask here or in https://forums.tamillinuxcommunity.org (please mention you prefer english reply in Tamil Linux Community, because the replies will be in tamil by default in TLC)
17:56:39 <mahii> mohan43u: Okay Got it
17:56:53 <shrini> I suggest to go with only linux
17:57:04 <shrini> take backup of all the data to another external disk
17:57:13 <shrini> Install linux alone
17:57:27 <shrini> so that you wont have to get into much trouble of dual boot
17:57:46 <shrini> you can do all the things with linux itself
17:57:58 <shrini> I am using linux for 20 years
17:58:08 <shrini> never used windows in 20 years for any purpose
17:59:12 <shrini> all my family members use only linux
17:59:22 <shrini> they can also do all the things
17:59:53 <shrini> dont waste time and efforts on dual boot
18:00:06 <mahii> It's good to hear, but I'm fresher so I'll start to use dual boot Once if I like I'll go with it
18:00:22 <shrini> thats why I ask to use only linux
18:00:36 <shrini> with a fresher mindset, you can learn it quickly
18:00:55 <shrini> switching to linux is like getting married
18:01:21 <shrini> you should be either bachelor or a married parson
18:01:21 <mahii> Haha
18:01:54 <shrini> because you are a bachelor for 20+ years, will you hesitate to get married?
18:02:20 <mahii> Nope 
18:02:35 <mahii> 🤣
18:03:03 <shrini> if you join a job, if the employer gives you a mac, will you ask for windows there?
18:03:59 <shrini-irccloud> Or dualboot ?
18:04:14 <mahii> shrini: Got it but eventually I'll move forward to use Linux 
18:04:41 <fury999io> i am moving my site to github pages with noip's subdomain
18:04:44 <fury999io> https://fury999.ddns.net/
18:04:51 <fury999io> i will start writing blog soon
18:06:18 <shrini-irccloud> OK mahii 
18:06:24 <shrini-irccloud> Good fury999io 
18:06:39 <fury999io> :D
18:07:20 <shrini-irccloud> If you want to write more, start with Dev.to or WordPress.com
18:07:41 <shrini-irccloud> You can write more
18:07:51 <shrini-irccloud> If you have a good plarform
18:08:00 <mahii> fury999io: "https://fury999.ddns.net/" Good bro
18:08:13 <fury999io> :D
18:08:27 <shrini-irccloud> I am writing at goinggnu.wordpress.com/ from 2006
18:08:28 <fury999io> shrini-irccloud, writing on personalized site feels better
18:09:05 <shrini-irccloud> True
18:09:07 <sethu_payilagam> Hi shrini.. I will be coming to Mississauga this Saturday morning. I think I have your watsapp number. I will give you a call. If you free, we can meet. If not we can plan some other time. 
18:09:20 <shrini-irccloud> But we will be doing other things than writing
18:09:54 <shrini-irccloud> sethu_payilagam: DM your number or on WhatsApp
18:10:07 <shrini-irccloud> Saturday morning I will be free
18:10:11 <shrini-irccloud> Let's meet
18:11:34 <sethu_payilagam> Sure shrini. I just messaged you in watsapp
18:12:03 <shrini-irccloud> Ok
18:12:24 <shrini-irccloud> fury999io: find one platform to write
18:12:33 <shrini-irccloud> Stay with that for long time
18:13:10 <shrini-irccloud> The more quick you can publish a post, the long you can write
18:13:40 <shrini-irccloud> People won't remember websites, URLs
18:13:40 <shrini-irccloud> Writing is only for us 
18:13:53 <fury999io> alright
18:15:49 <shrini-irccloud> If you love to learn static site building, do it for some other purpose
18:16:02 <shrini-irccloud> Or for some open source projects
18:16:17 <shrini-irccloud> Join the web team for any project and ask how can you help
18:28:23 <fury999io> >Join the web team for any project
18:28:29 <fury999io> shrini-irccloud, web team of the lug?
18:29:04 <shrini> of any project
18:29:14 <shrini> ilugc.in also a static site
18:29:20 <shrini> you can contribute to that
18:29:30 <shrini> or for any other FOSS software
18:29:42 <shrini> all FOSS software need a website
18:29:51 <shrini> there are many software that dont have any website
18:48:41 <fury999io> ohk
18:48:50 <fury999io> first i need to learn webdev properly
18:48:59 <fury999io> i have just started
18:49:03 <shrini> ok
18:49:16 <shrini> by doing only we can learn
18:49:38 <shrini> if we keep learning and postpone doing, we wont start doing 
18:50:00 <shrini> check for any software that dont have a website
18:50:06 <shrini> then, build a site for it
18:50:18 <shrini> then inform about it in their dev mailing list
18:50:28 <shrini> do the same for few more 
18:50:36 <shrini> you will learn a lot by doing this
18:50:52 <shrini> you will get good content and experience