11:59:09 <sethu_payilagam> Good day Everyone!
12:00:04 <sethu_payilagam> I have to take my kid to a doctors appointment. I am not sure I will be able to attend todays DB session but  I will join here for the discussion late. 
15:00:57 <sugi> Hi Everyone
15:02:19 <Varun777> hi all
15:04:17 <Varun777> sethu_payilagam: No worries, Classes will be held on monday,wednesday and friday on every week
15:04:34 <Varun777> Tommorrow will be our day 2 of postgreSQL
15:06:02 <sugi> Hi Shrini - Today updates : Done with Exception Handling blog, IRC blog-80% finished.  So before tomorrow evening planned to work on homework and some backlog
15:06:31 <sugi> So DB Classes on alternative days only?
15:06:44 <Varun777> sugi: yeah sugi
15:07:04 <sugi> ok
15:12:09 <shrini-weechat> hello all
15:12:19 <shrini-weechat> good morning/good evening
15:13:46 <shrini-weechat> https://blogs.kaniyam.cloudns.nz/p/i/
15:13:56 <shrini-weechat> sethu_payilagam is writing on eat that frog
15:14:02 <shrini-weechat> dont miss to read it
15:14:04 <shrini-weechat> thanks sethu_payilagam 
15:14:15 <shrini-weechat> sugi: got your updates from the logs
15:14:17 <shrini-weechat> thanks
15:18:25 <shrini-weechat> Varun777: 
15:18:44 <shrini-weechat> Varun777: any updates from you ?
15:19:03 <shrini-weechat> yesterday we were discussing about the parquet file format vs the csv
15:19:19 <Varun777> yes, shrini
15:20:14 <shrini-weechat> can you share more on the choise of parquet format?
15:20:43 <Varun777> I focused on adding news content in a row, instead of separate text files, which I need to file_path where text files are stored
15:20:56 <Varun777> in a csv
15:21:09 <shrini-weechat> hmm
15:22:00 <shrini-weechat> then ?
15:22:24 <Varun777> so I choose parquet also reduces size of dataset size as compared to storing data on separately in a txt file
15:22:41 <Varun777> coming about updates
15:22:58 <shrini-weechat> can we read the parquest files using text editor?
15:23:11 <shrini-weechat> please give both the versions then
15:23:18 <shrini-weechat> text file is good for many things
15:23:21 <shrini-weechat> easy checl
15:23:24 <shrini-weechat> check
15:23:32 <shrini-weechat> word analysis
15:23:39 <shrini-weechat> word frequency analysis
15:23:42 <shrini-weechat> etc
15:23:52 <shrini-weechat> we can do many thing with plain text files
15:24:01 <shrini-weechat> its ok to get the content as individual files
15:24:04 <sugi> Hi Shrini
15:24:06 <Varun777> No shrini, we cannot read anything in a text editor
15:24:18 <shrini-weechat> each article can go on a seperate plain text
15:24:32 <Varun777> we have import either pandas or pyspark package inorder to read content
15:24:52 <shrini-weechat> on top of the article, give the metadata like, date, title, autor, category, tags etc
15:25:14 <shrini-weechat> Varun777: give both text file and parquest
15:25:22 <shrini-weechat> for me, txt is enough
15:25:26 <shrini-weechat> hi sugi 
15:25:40 <shrini-weechat> how are your tasks going on?
15:26:19 <sugi> shrini-weechat: I have 2 doubts. One is gitlab snippet created but for embedding in wordpress, we should have some plugin - for that account should be upgraded - read
15:26:33 <Varun777> ok shrini: but for training models parquet is more useful
15:26:38 <sugi> shrini-weechat: tasks - good
15:27:36 <sugi> created code snippet in gitlab but could not embed in wordpress, still inside /code only pasting
15:30:49 <shrini-weechat> oh ok sugi 
15:30:56 <shrini-weechat> then try github gists
15:31:09 <shrini-weechat> https://gist.github.com/
15:31:32 <shrini-weechat> create an account in github and use gists to store the single page code
15:31:45 <shrini-weechat> you can copy and paste the gist URL into wordpress to embed it
15:32:14 <sugi> oh OK Shrini
15:32:28 <sugi> And another doubt : Is there any rule or guidelines for kanchilug and ilugc emails? Where can i find it?
15:32:56 <sethu_payilagam> Thank you, Varun777! I will join tomorrows session
15:33:05 <sethu_payilagam> Thank you, shrini! 
15:33:13 <shrini-weechat> sugi: there were mailing lists guidelines on ilugc
15:33:17 <shrini-weechat> will find and share
15:33:29 <sethu_payilagam> one more personal best happened yesterday.. thanks to you and mohan43u :)
15:33:34 <shrini-weechat> https://ilugc.in/mailing-list-guidelines/
15:33:46 <sugi> thanks shrini
15:33:56 <shrini-weechat> the same is for most of the mailing lists
15:33:58 <sethu_payilagam> for the first time, I completed reading 200+pages in one stretch ;)
15:34:15 <sugi> :)
15:34:15 <shrini-weechat> wow. sethu_payilagam eat that frog book?
15:34:22 <shrini-weechat> or duruvangal ?
15:34:26 <sugi> :-)
15:34:45 <sethu_payilagam> No shrini. that has got just 119 pages.. 
15:34:58 <sethu_payilagam> yes Dhuruvangal.. and it is going non stop :D
15:35:13 <shrini-weechat> nice
15:35:28 <shrini-weechat> that is one of the wonders in tamil tech world
15:35:38 <sethu_payilagam> honestly that is my longest i had ever read in my entire life.. 
15:36:09 <shrini-weechat> good
15:36:34 <shrini-weechat> read some more tamil books regularly
15:36:38 <shrini-weechat> then pick velpaari
15:36:48 <sethu_payilagam> I do not know much about mohan43u or anyone in the group.. but I doubt that Madhan is you based on your passion on linux :D just kidding
15:36:57 <shrini-weechat> you will take leave to office and read velpaari, just like i did
15:37:18 <sugi> shrini-weechat: ok shrini, let me join tomorrow. Thanks
15:37:23 <shrini-weechat> ok sugi 
15:37:24 <fury999io> useful for people who write blogs and post the links on mastodon: https://rknight.me/blog/stopping-mastodon-from-fetching-metadata-for-my-notes/
15:37:26 <shrini-weechat> thanks
15:37:43 <shrini-weechat> sethu_payilagam: hahaha
15:37:53 <shrini-weechat> I will be happy if i am madan
15:38:08 <sethu_payilagam> i even asked Muthu sir.. do you know who that character is? 
15:39:11 <sethu_payilagam> and with the strange coincidence your finishing statement for yesterday is about terminal.. and I was just finishing the statement from Madhan's friend saying he will watch even movies in terminal :D
15:40:37 <sethu_payilagam> But amazing writing.. especially for an amateur reader like me.. the author maintained a nice balance.. I hope I will complete it before I complete eat the frog :D
15:42:42 <shrini-weechat> :-)
15:43:30 <shrini-weechat> complete duruvangal first
15:43:42 <sethu_payilagam> Sure shrini
15:44:04 <shrini-weechat> you can see it like a movie in mind
15:44:17 <sethu_payilagam> 100%
15:47:27 <shrini-weechat> sethu_payilagam: if you come near toronto or mississauga, let me know
15:47:29 <shrini-weechat> we can meet
15:55:38 <shrini-weechat> sethu_payilagam: 
15:56:10 <shrini-weechat> sethu_payilagam: you can give the duruvangal review in kanchilug meet
15:56:18 <shrini-weechat> as one of your talks
16:01:32 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: I told you to allocate time yesterday before touching that book, you see the effect of that book now :)
16:10:15 <sethu_payilagam> Sorry Shrini.. stepped out for a few mins
16:10:51 <sethu_payilagam> Sure. I will mostly come to Mississauga this Saturday. If it is confirmed I will text you Shrini. 
16:11:09 <sethu_payilagam> sethu_payilagam: you can give the duruvangal review in kanchilug meet - No shrini
16:12:10 <sethu_payilagam> that is pure emotion and very soulful. Not sure about anyone else.. but i dont want to give a review.. especially me being a beginner 
16:12:46 <sethu_payilagam> very true mohan43u :) My wife started doubting me :D
16:13:21 <sethu_payilagam> pardon me for using Tanglish: ivan avlo periya padipaali lam illaye.. yeppo paaru padichite iruka nu :D
16:18:06 <sethu_payilagam> it is like i will close it after reading this part.. and it goes on and on.. the beauty is whenever the reader like me feel that "it is going a bit more technical" the romance part kick in.. that's why i said.. he strike the perfect balance.. amazing. 
16:18:48 <shrini> :-)
16:20:13 <sethu_payilagam> i will stop here from my non-stop typing.. as it might be too much.. :) Let me continue  reading ;)
16:22:29 <shrini> give the book to your wife too
16:24:06 <shrini> your talk can be as "reading experience of duruvangal"
16:24:18 <shrini> no need to be a perfect review
16:24:24 <shrini> just share what you feel
16:24:30 <sethu_payilagam> why shrini? she will then think too much and ask "remembering all your past memories" ;)
16:24:39 <sethu_payilagam> though there isn't any :D
16:24:44 <shrini> hahahaha
16:25:00 <shrini> give it a try
16:25:04 <sethu_payilagam> I will try shrini.. but i will complete it first.. 
16:25:24 <shrini> many non tech readers, enjoy the romance part and get to know about what linux can do
16:25:49 <sethu_payilagam> exactly.. 
16:32:05 <sethu_payilagam> forgot to mention.. it took so much time to interpret what ஐலெக்சி is.. infact took more than 30-40 mins.. i was searching for all possible combination in internet.. as i couldn't proceed without knowing wat it is.. author could've been little kinder by providing the english version of it in brackets.. he didn't mention that anywhere.. :D :D
16:32:35 <sethu_payilagam> i said i will stop it.. now i promise.. i will not type anything more on this topic for today ;)
16:33:30 <Varun777> may be ILUGC 🤔
16:34:29 <sethu_payilagam> yes Varun.. i found it finally.. but thought i wouldn't reveal here for the sake of other readers ;)
16:34:52 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: no need to stop, keep pouring your enjoyment as you read, we all had that same feeling when we read that book
16:36:42 <sethu_payilagam> Thanks mohan43u. I have this practice.. may it be movies, songs, anything interesting that i come across.. i will not stop talking about it. recently one such experience was watching Meiazhagan movie.. became so close to my heart that I did not stop talking about it for close to 2 weeks.. 
16:37:01 <sethu_payilagam> after that i feel the same about this book.. though i just completed 200 pages :)
16:46:54 <shrini> sethu_payilagam: keep sharing. thats what the human nature is
16:47:07 <shrini> that what the entire  FOSS ecosystem is built on
16:47:26 <shrini> we can improve it and do a new release
16:47:37 <shrini> please provide your inputs on the required changes
16:47:48 <shrini> like some intro about ILUGC
16:47:53 <shrini> add any more points
16:48:08 <shrini> we the longtimers here, know most of the things
16:48:16 <shrini> we can not see as fresh eyes
16:48:26 <shrini> so, your feedback will help a lot
16:51:53 <sethu_payilagam> That always helps shrini. 
17:01:27 <shrini> note down all the changes you need and write them in your blog
17:01:35 <shrini> or send email to me and the author
17:01:43 <shrini> will fix them and do a rerelease
17:02:02 <hariharan-wc> recently i came to know you're reading eaten frog is it a self help book 
17:02:33 <shrini> its a book about time management techniques
17:02:39 <shrini> that we can follow easily
17:06:12 <sethu_payilagam> Sure shrini. I felt the author had intentionally left that unexplained and make the reading even interesting.. definitely a reader can't go past that without knowing what it is.. and will search for it.. this is my version of authors intention 
17:26:16 <hariharan-wc> youre telling about thuruvangal sethu_payilaga:
17:26:30 <hariharan-wc> it is true 
17:26:44 <hariharan-wc> i read a random chapter posted in tls 
17:27:03 <hariharan-wc> it is worth reading 
17:27:11 <hariharan-wc> /tlc
17:40:07 <shrini> hariharan-wc: hope you have completed thuruvangal
17:40:17 <shrini> how is your weechat experience?
17:40:20 <shrini> enable mouse
17:40:29 <shrini> it has plenty of addons
17:40:43 <hariharan-wc> its very good 
17:40:51 <hariharan-wc> no fancy sounds just a cling 
17:40:56 <hariharan-wc> for new messages 
17:40:57 <shrini> enable notification plugin script, so that you will get notified when someone mention your name
17:41:03 <shrini> :-)
17:41:27 <shrini> I had connected with slack for my office chat
17:41:31 <hariharan-wc> multiple channel switching using just keyboard shortcut not need to using the mouse 
17:41:35 <shrini> so lightweight
17:41:45 <hariharan-wc> ohh 
17:41:48 <hariharan-wc> nice 
17:42:00 <hariharan-wc> is it able to connect my telegram and whatsapp 
17:42:03 <hariharan-wc> ?
17:42:27 <shrini> https://weechat.org/scripts/
17:42:59 <shrini> no for whatsapp
17:45:01 <shrini> https://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/news.r.html
17:45:11 <shrini> has some connectors to telegram
17:45:17 <shrini> https://wiki.bitlbee.org/
17:45:24 <shrini> teelgram-cli is another cool tool
17:45:30 <hariharan-wc> ok i will lookinto later 
17:45:58 <hariharan-wc> how is the user engagement on odoc-tamil in kaniyam.com 
17:46:45 <shrini> we dont get any comment for kaniyam
17:46:59 <shrini> but people will read it
17:47:13 <shrini> i will try to share these in the social media 
17:49:26 <hariharan-wc> in my personal blog i will see reading statistics every month via mail 
17:50:00 <hariharan-wc> like wise i asked 10 users reads this post 20 users reads this post 
17:50:59 <shrini> thats done by jetback
17:52:27 <hariharan-wc> balakrishnan -kanchilug is working on post everywhere script right ? 
17:53:28 <shrini> not sure he started
17:53:51 <shrini> we need some automation using selenium to post the content in many social media
17:54:57 <hariharan-wc> if free api available we can prefer thats as first choice 
17:55:20 <hariharan-wc> selenium automation can be second choice
17:55:22 <shrini> yes, api is available for some
17:55:47 <shrini> for some not availbale
17:57:06 <hariharan-wc> selenium automation is little expensive and not work as expected some times there will some restriction will interrupt and break the automation 
17:57:26 <shrini> twitter, linkedin , mastodon provides api
17:58:01 <hariharan-wc> youre posting on your linkedin using apis ? 
17:58:22 <shrini> manually
17:58:29 <shrini> I tried api
17:58:33 <shrini> it broke after some tie
17:58:36 <shrini> time
17:58:44 <shrini> so, currenly doing manually
17:58:56 <shrini> for fb, twitter need to read the docs on how to use the api
17:59:19 <hariharan-wc> it seems twitter is currently being simple of them 
17:59:37 <shrini> that too become complex after X
17:59:42 <shrini> mastodon is simplest
18:00:05 <hariharan-wc> while iam starting a facebook page i publish the blogs links  whenever i publish in wordpress 
18:00:19 <hariharan-wc> using the jetpack 
18:00:27 <hariharan-wc> automatically 
18:00:47 <hariharan-wc> recent facebook policy changes due that my page was blocked 
18:01:03 <hariharan-wc> i have requested for a page review 
18:01:20 <shrini> yes, too many changes nowadays
18:01:34 <shrini> thats why I feel seleinum can be easy
18:01:42 <shrini> one way to do in all platforms
18:01:45 <shrini> may be slower
18:01:54 <shrini> but, can be done
18:02:14 <shrini> without going through the policies
18:03:11 <hariharan-wc> yes I agree but they change the button positions freequently to annoy the automation testers : ) 
18:03:21 <shrini> oh
18:03:29 <shrini> thats tiring then
18:04:08 <hariharan-wc> thats why i say selenium is second choice
18:05:09 <hariharan-wc> we do 1 month effort to publis a facebook page post automation the simply change the id or location of the button underneth or somewhere else our code will be broken 
18:06:01 <shrini> :-(
18:06:09 <shrini> they dont want automation
18:06:28 <shrini> going through the api process is good then