06:19:33 <annamalai> shrini` mohan43u What should I do regarding the license issue raised by Benson. You can check out the KanchiLUG mailing list regarding this ?
11:29:30 <annamalai> based on discussion with gold ayan, have updated the license to "CC BY-NC-ND 3.0 US"
12:46:06 <mohan43u> annamalai: sorry mate, didn't notice your message, as far as I know, derivative work should use the same license which the source material use, or the one allowed by the author of the source material, we cannot just change it as per our preference.
13:11:05 <annamalai> mohan43u: no problem. thanks, actually now I have changes the license to the same as of original one 
13:11:12 <annamalai> but should I have to mail Beej then ?
13:12:16 <annamalai> is it needed 
13:12:24 <annamalai> *changed
13:38:42 <shrini> hello all
13:48:37 <vii_majesty> hi shrini 
13:48:41 <vii_majesty> how you doing
13:48:49 <sethu_payilagam> Hello Shrini. Good morning
13:49:01 <sethu_payilagam> Hello All!
13:49:03 <shrini-irccloud> Good morning all
13:49:17 <shrini-irccloud> Weekend was too busy for me
13:49:33 <shrini-irccloud> Missed the ilugc and kanchilug meets
13:49:38 <shrini-irccloud> How they went?
13:50:55 <sethu_payilagam> KanchiLug meet went well except for the fact that I ended up creating an awkward situation which I really felt bad. It was very unfortunate but I now understood the background. Sorry mohan43u!!
13:52:20 <sugi> Hi Everyone
13:55:31 <sugi> Sethu and Annamalai - It was a wonderful session.  both of your explanations are too good.
13:56:48 <sethu_payilagam> Thank you, Sugi! I missed your session. 
13:57:23 <sugi> You missed it, so you escaped :)
13:57:30 <shrini-irccloud> Thanks fine sethu_payilagam 
13:57:36 <sugi> mine was not as good as yours
13:57:37 <shrini-irccloud> Its all for learning
13:57:51 <sugi> hi shrini
13:57:56 <shrini-irccloud> mohan43u mail to the list is for all of us
13:58:11 <mohan43u> annamalai: I don't think you need to send mail to beeji just for the license, but interacting with beeji and let beeji aware of your translation to tamil is a great thing, he may add/anounce your translation work to beeji's social media
13:58:26 <shrini-irccloud> The stright rules at LUG are the main reason for the Linux to reach to the masses
13:59:27 <shrini-irccloud> The mailing list is the good tool for teaching things for all the subscribers
13:59:29 <mohan43u> sethu_payilagam: nothing wrong on your side mate, but I was just not happy that people who know what to do in that situation hesitated to do the right thing. thats why I mailed.
14:00:07 <shrini-irccloud> If I was on the call, I would call to stop the talk
14:00:14 <shrini-irccloud> And moved to next talk
14:00:23 <sethu_payilagam> Got it now mohan43u & shrini!
14:00:31 <shrini-irccloud> Or did some alternate arrangement
14:00:41 <shrini-irccloud> We misses that 
14:01:05 <shrini-irccloud> Missed that
14:01:21 <shrini-irccloud> Someone should ask questions always
14:01:39 <shrini-irccloud> If we miss something
14:04:28 <shrini-irccloud> sugi: how was your session?
14:04:59 <shrini-irccloud> Write a blog post about how it went
14:05:00 <sugi> First 10 mins it was too hard to speak - blabbered.
14:05:07 <sugi> then it was ok, got the flow
14:05:14 <sugi> managed
14:05:19 <shrini-irccloud> How did you prepare and  how you felt before and after
14:05:59 <sugi> First I should thank you so much from bottom of my heart for breaking the ice
14:06:26 <sugi> That was my first speech. Even in college I did not give any seminar
14:06:57 <sugi> So frightened to speak, especially in front of a group 
14:08:01 <sugi> after the session I felt like "God, even I could able to speak" and today in our class also i took the same seminar 
14:08:54 <sugi> Preparation is as Muthu Sir said just html intro and how to design a basic form with various controls-what he taught in class just represented
14:09:26 <sugi> Oh My God I typed so many - sorry guys
14:10:04 <sethu_payilagam> Great Sugi. If you have any recording, please share the link. 
14:10:42 <sugi> No shrini - In tension - I did not do anything
14:10:43 <sethu_payilagam> you aren't alone.. :) As shrini said everything is a learning.
14:10:58 <sugi> sorry - its Sethu
14:11:07 <sethu_payilagam> np 
14:11:18 <sugi> Sethu I am interested in Database stuffs
14:11:51 <shrini> https://parottasalna.com/postgres-database-syllabus/
14:11:53 <sugi> I like SQL most out of all lang
14:12:01 <shrini> attend this session by syed
14:12:25 <shrini> it will be a good free training on postgreSQL database in tamil by syed
14:12:35 <sugi> so I should quit this and attend that?
14:13:00 <shrini> no
14:13:07 <shrini> checking for that time
14:13:21 <sugi> ok
14:13:35 <sethu_payilagam> Ok. Even I am looking forward for this session by Syed
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14:14:12 <shrini> oh, its on the same time
14:14:17 <sugi> 7pm to 8pm means - its clashing with our time, right
14:14:21 <sugi> yes
14:14:30 <shrini> we have move our timing
14:14:34 <shrini> earlier or later
14:14:38 <sugi> ok
14:14:49 <shrini> lets plan on that
14:15:06 <sugi> sure shrini
14:15:07 <shrini> // I typed so many //
14:15:10 <shrini> we need it here
14:15:21 <shrini> the more we interact, the more good
14:15:34 <shrini> always feel free to type more
14:15:56 <shrini> sethu_payilagam: sugi write a blog on your experience about your talk
14:15:57 <sugi> thank you - see some live seminar increased my chat also
14:16:05 <shrini> yes
14:16:19 <shrini> thats the magic of giving a talk
14:16:31 <shrini> it will bring an all new person within ourself
14:16:57 <sethu_payilagam> Ok Shrini!!
14:17:10 <sugi> yes really I am excited - I know my talk was OK only - but something I did - that feel is good
14:18:03 <shrini> plan to give some talk on every kanchilug ( weekly ) and ilugc (monthly ) talks
14:18:26 <sugi> Shrini can you ask somebody in ilugc  - genuine feedback about my talk to improve myself
14:18:29 <shrini> they will help a lot on finding new person within ourself
14:18:45 <shrini> you can send that as an email to ilugc list
14:19:05 <sugi> Sure shrini 
14:19:25 <shrini> say it as "it was my first public talk. looking for feedback so that I can improve"
14:19:28 <shrini> like this
14:19:34 <shrini> people will reply for sure
14:19:35 <hariharan> Nice talk sugi 
14:20:13 <sugi> hariharan: first 10min intro how I did - I don't have any recording even - I did not think about it
14:20:45 <hariharan> In any place i didnt see like first talk 
14:21:04 <sugi> Oh really - if its true, I am so happy
14:21:32 <hariharan> I'm  not kidding 
14:22:17 <sugi> thank you hariharan
14:22:58 <hariharan> I  came in meet while you're explaining about input fields from there  
14:23:33 <hariharan> I didn't  see any beginner  things 
14:23:55 <sugi> Oh ok
14:24:19 <sugi> then please check with some of your friends who attended
14:24:44 <sugi> fine. Shrini, today I just go through Exception Handlin
14:24:44 <sugi>             │g in java -  to create a blog
14:25:30 <hariharan> I'm  a newbie in ilugc have to make some friends  there
14:25:48 <shrini> all are friends there
14:25:53 <shrini> just send an email sugi
14:26:04 <sugi> OK shrini, surely will do
14:26:27 <shrini> be fast and quick on writing blogs about the events, so that we dont miss them to write
14:26:51 <shrini> once the DB classes, started, you will be super busy
14:27:13 <shrini> take notes and publish blog daily with your learning notes
14:27:21 <shrini> it will help to learn faster
14:27:23 <sugi> :-) -- You mean with this excitement stage if I write, content will be more
14:27:42 <shrini> yes
14:27:56 <shrini> it will give the real feelings out
14:28:09 <sugi> fine. now let me write - ilugc talk blog, then exception handling
14:28:12 <shrini> such blogs can be with personal thoughts and feelings
14:28:21 <sugi> yes I agree
14:28:54 <shrini> write about all the tech meetings you attend
14:29:01 <shrini> just one or two para also fine
14:29:15 <shrini> but documenting the path we go is really important
14:29:39 <sugi> ok shrini
14:32:12 <shrini> mohan43u: thanks for being a guardian angel for LUGs
14:33:01 <shrini> many recent joinees dont know about why LUGs are stright on showing linux on the events
14:33:15 <mohan43u> shrini: I'm a moral moron according to people from our community :)
14:34:02 <shrini> I have seen many FOSS events, conferences, where people show MAC and Windows to talk about how they like and use linux on their life
14:34:30 <shrini> I always question them on the spot itself as why do they dont show linux on the event
14:34:38 <shrini> they used to say some reason
14:34:56 <shrini> but, we should live what we preach
14:35:22 <shrini> பேசுவது இராமாயணம், இடிப்பது பெருமாள் கோயில்
14:35:30 <shrini> its a old sayings
14:36:13 <shrini> english translation is like "someone is preaching Ramayana, but he/she is demolishing Ram temple"
14:36:37 <shrini> I feel the same when someone shows a non linux desktop on a FOSS event/conference
14:37:00 <shrini> it is a mistake of the organizing team only
14:37:13 <shrini> they should share the guidelines to the speaker
14:37:22 <shrini> and should have prepared for the alternate arrangements
14:37:44 <shrini> I question them all on the event
14:38:03 <shrini> because, all the participants will be organizer for some events in future
14:38:32 <shrini> by the questions and discussions only, all others will be learning silently
14:39:53 <shrini> though it will look bad, to question in public, and to point this
14:40:04 <shrini> some people will think to go with the flow
14:40:13 <Varun777> hi shrini
14:40:20 <shrini> but, all the FOSS events are to learn something
14:40:36 <shrini> to use FOSS software, to give talk, to listen,
14:40:44 <shrini> and to ask questions boldly
14:41:06 <shrini> and to answer them, accept the mistake 
14:41:17 <shrini> then only they can implement the learning on the next events
14:41:53 <shrini> so, I request eveyone here to ask questions boldly
14:42:17 <shrini> it is a good way of teaching and learning
14:42:24 <shrini> hi Varun777
14:42:55 <Varun777> shrini: I have started doing theekkathir text dataset
14:42:55 <shrini> how was your talk?
14:43:10 <shrini> on julia
14:43:21 <shrini> thats nice Varun777
14:43:55 <shrini> another request for sugi sethu_payilagam Varun777 annamalai
14:44:22 <sugi> yes shrini
14:44:25 <shrini> do a screencasting of your talk
14:44:39 <shrini> on your free time and publish in your youtube channel
14:44:50 <shrini> before the talk or after the talk
14:44:52 <sugi> I don't understand - what it means
14:44:58 <Varun777> shrini: talk on julia was good, I feel so improved in my English, compared to what I speak during interviews
14:45:13 <shrini> create a youtube channel
14:45:33 <shrini> do a same talk again, but only for you
14:45:39 <shrini> record it and publish
14:45:54 <Varun777> shrini: lets do this instead, why we cant share on tamil linux community youtube channel
14:46:11 <shrini> yes, thats also fine
14:46:23 <shrini> at the same time, having your own channel will also help a lot
14:46:33 <shrini> we can share the videos to multiple channels too
14:46:42 <shrini> it will help to showcase your efforts 
14:46:45 <shrini> on your resume
14:46:51 <shrini> https://www.youtube.com/@NithyaDuraisamy/
14:47:03 <shrini> 98% of the vidoes here are self recorded
14:47:14 <shrini> at midnights and early mornings
14:47:38 <shrini> As nithya is not getting to time for public training like syed do
14:47:47 <shrini> or give talks in LUGs like you all
14:48:09 <shrini> but, she records whenever she gets time and publish
14:48:19 <shrini> along with blog posts on kaniyam.com
14:48:32 <shrini> so that it becomes an asset for her and for all
14:48:51 <shrini> such solo recordings will help as a good preparation tool
14:49:12 <shrini> and we can talk boldly on the public meetings
14:49:22 <shrini> give it a try, whenever you get time
14:49:38 <shrini> start with the same talks you give in LUGs
14:49:56 <shrini> I hope, you got what I mean
14:50:26 <shrini> I know, all these requests are adding more TODO items for you all
14:50:28 <shrini> :-)
14:50:38 <shrini> just do them whenever possible
14:50:47 <shrini> they all are time taking things
14:50:51 <shrini> but good to do 
14:50:52 <sugi> OK shrini
14:54:00 <shrini> Varun777: Please share the code for theekadir scrapping too
14:54:04 <shrini> and the data
14:54:29 <shrini> once it is progressing
14:55:02 <shrini> hariharan: happy to see that your PR to open-tamil is merged
14:55:09 <shrini> can you write about that in kaniyam ?
14:55:22 <shrini> or make some talk or video too
14:55:42 <shrini> we missed to record your and my talk on open-tamil
14:55:54 <shrini> I recorded, but audio was missing
14:56:08 <shrini> I missed to do a test record before our talk
14:56:57 <shrini> sugi: once the db sessions are started, what will be your best time for the IRC sessions?
14:57:21 <sethu_payilagam> //though it will look bad, to question in public, and to point this// you got it right, Shrini. I hope the intent of the moderator is not to stop the flow as I was having back to back issues yesterday and got delayed already. But definitely not intentional. I now understood the true intent of this initiative and the community and will comply on the rules going forward. But couldn't stop my thoughts for the moderator and 
14:57:21 <sethu_payilagam> rry for him :( 
14:58:19 <shrini> sethu_payilagam: it happens
14:58:41 <shrini> my only worry is "why no one asked question on the event time itself?"
14:58:55 <shrini> after seeing the video only mohan43u sent an email
14:59:14 <shrini> we should have more people questioning on the event itself
14:59:18 <sethu_payilagam> No someone called Nishant was asking during the session from the chat
14:59:29 <shrini> oh, thats good then
14:59:37 <shrini> I forgot that
14:59:40 <sethu_payilagam> i might be wrong with the name but someone asked
14:59:50 <shrini> good to know that nishant asked question
15:00:02 <shrini> so that it is a learning for all on the meeting
15:00:12 <shrini> today, they may be a listner
15:00:24 <shrini> in some future, they will be running many events
15:00:26 <sethu_payilagam> and because it was in the middle of the session Paramesh told I will take this up towards the end
15:00:30 <shrini> on many communities
15:00:37 <sethu_payilagam> definitely!!
15:00:55 <shrini> please dont take anything personally
15:01:14 <shrini> all these discussions are only for learning
15:01:36 <shrini> sometime, these teaching are not in straightforward lessons
15:02:10 <shrini> just imagine, if I give a talk on Linux community guidelines, 
15:02:27 <sethu_payilagam> For sure Shrini. 
15:02:28 <shrini> it will reach our minds and heart little
15:02:46 <shrini> but, these kind of quesions and facing them will be there for years
15:03:02 <shrini> for all of us
15:03:11 <zenin> hello
15:03:21 <shrini> I still remember someone called "Kenneth"
15:03:37 <shrini> on ilugc, around 2005-2010
15:03:57 <shrini> we call him as "strict officer" of ilugc
15:04:20 <shrini> he questioned on every thing we do beyond the guidelines
15:04:39 <shrini> but, those questions are the baseline for building this community
15:04:51 <shrini> there are so many people come and go
15:04:57 <shrini> they form new communities
15:05:13 <shrini> in life, for tech,personal events
15:05:43 <shrini> they implement all the learnings from one event to all their other events
15:06:05 <shrini> hello zen
15:06:10 <shrini> hello zenin
15:06:22 <sethu_payilagam> if you and mohan43u are ok I can share my thoughts about what I felt since yesterday till now without any filter and how I got the clarity now. It might help someone who is thinking same as me, the newbies!!
15:06:36 <shrini> yes, please go ahead
15:08:28 <zenin> what is going on guys
15:09:40 <Varun777> shrini: I have doubt in theekkathir web scrapping for author names.
15:09:40 <Varun777> https://theekkathir.in/News/articles/india/an-eye-opener-for-the-justice-deity-is-an-insult-to-the-differently-abled
15:09:40 <Varun777> here our former justice K.Chandru has written this article, but author shows நமது நருபர் on all the articles
15:09:40 <Varun777> some of them given in titles with '-' symbol
15:09:40 <Varun777> some of them given at bottom like justice Chandru's article
15:09:42 <Varun777> And some of them authors are not provided, What to do for it shrini:
15:10:02 <sugi> Varun777: Your talk also good, I could not concentrate immediately as I just finished - after sometime started to watch-it was good
15:10:26 <Varun777> sugi: thank you sugi
15:10:38 <shrini> Varun777: dont worry on the content. just scrap whatever they have mentioned
15:10:53 <shrini> just give as it is
15:11:16 <shrini> we can clean the "-" in the authot field, if required in future
15:11:58 <Varun777> ok shrini
15:12:23 <Varun777> so shall I remove "author name" column?
15:12:30 <shrini> let it be there
15:12:51 <Varun777> ok shrini
15:12:58 <shrini> get the same content, for that field, whatever they have in the article
15:13:39 <shrini> zenin: we are discussing about why should show only a linux destop on any LUG meeting
15:14:05 <zenin> aha 
15:14:10 <shrini> if some miss to show a linux desktop, then every one should question it and make some alternate arragements
15:14:30 <zenin> make sense 
15:15:02 <Varun777> shrini: that's good initiative shrini, we have to present linux desktops on all LUG meetings.
15:15:02 <shrini> sethu_payilagam: go ahead with your thoughts
15:15:11 <zenin> or else how can we expect others to consume something we ourselves don't consume
15:17:14 <sethu_payilagam> As this was my 2nd meet, i do not know anything about the guidelines.. and it all happened through Muthu sir who pointed me towards shrini and IRC and I ended up trying my sessions. So to someone like me who jumped in the middle doesn't have any clue why Nishant is interupting the meeting by asking these small issues. How many would have even noticed it as MAC and not linux. So during that moment I was with Paramesh. Aft
15:17:14 <sethu_payilagam> ohan43u mail my thought started going beyond boundaries and started thinking in a weird way. Hope mohan43u and nishant are against all the OS except linux and how could they expect someone to start using the linux in their 2nd meet? Even until this morning I was literally worried for what had happened and had a similar discussion with Muthu sir. He was also saying the same and said nothing wrong about you. I am repeating
15:17:14 <sethu_payilagam> time again. I TRULY UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THIS COMMUNITY AND I RESPECT YOU ALL FOR STANDING BY THE GUIDELINES AT ALL TIMES!! almost all if not 80% of my guilt and hard feelings are gone. And I wanted to ask 1 last sorry to Paramesh(Even though it is not my mistake). 
15:17:25 <sethu_payilagam> sorry for the long message :)
15:18:28 <sethu_payilagam> Now I am more happy to part of this community! Thank you shrini and mohan43u!
15:19:17 <shrini> please send this to kanchilug mailing list too
15:19:23 <shrini> no need to ask for sorry
15:19:44 <shrini> it is not a mistake of you or paramesh
15:20:02 <shrini> we all missed to iterate the guidelines
15:20:14 <shrini> for all the newcomers
15:20:33 <shrini> we assume that all the speakers are using linux
15:20:33 <sethu_payilagam> //please send this to kanchilug mailing list too// - no Shrini.. I thought of just offloading my thoughts here as i was thinking too much about it since yesterday
15:20:48 <shrini> its okey
15:20:54 <shrini> please dont take anything to heart
15:21:22 <shrini> its all about being consious on what we show in a LUG event
15:21:46 <shrini> I really appreciate your efforts on giving a talk
15:21:59 <annamalai> sugi: thanks 
15:22:11 <shrini> we dont expect these as a newbie speaker to any community
15:22:21 <annamalai> mohan43u: Thanks. In that way it should be good. 
15:22:47 <shrini> As i said, some teachings/lessons are not straight forward
15:22:52 <annamalai> shrini: Yeah. My recent talk recording is there in TLC. Will also try doing it for further talks and others too
15:23:17 <shrini> good annamalai
15:23:21 <annamalai> mohan43u being the current Kenneth Gonsalves, lol
15:23:49 <shrini> good annamalai. good to know that you knew KG
15:24:07 <sethu_payilagam> As i said, some teachings/lessons are not straight forward - Very true.. and a true learning for me even though I am in this IT industry for close to 15 years :(
15:25:18 <shrini> thats why FOSS community is different than tech industry
15:25:35 <shrini> we will be learning new things for our life time
15:25:44 <shrini> that what FOSS is teaching us
15:26:16 <shrini> tech skills, life skills and more
15:26:27 <shrini> will be there for life time, with FOSS communities
15:26:50 <shrini> learn to let it go and start as fresh
15:26:50 <sugi> /once the db sessions are started, what will be your best time for the IRC sessions? / 8pm-9pm also OK for me
15:27:31 <shrini> question for all, is that fine, if we move the IRC meetings one hour later?
15:27:47 <shrini> so that we all can attend postgresql db sessions ?
15:28:59 <sethu_payilagam> I am ok Shrini
15:30:12 <sethu_payilagam> //learn to let it go and start as fresh// - Thank you! ❤️
15:31:44 <sethu_payilagam> Shrini, once question/clarification. Should I hold my sessions for now until Syed sessions are complete. Even it would be good for me to learn the DB fully as well. Let me know your thoughts.
15:32:09 <shrini> syed's training is daily
15:32:17 <shrini> you can giving talk on weekly meetings
15:32:41 <shrini> its ok to go with your plan
15:32:47 <sethu_payilagam> But I would be on the same subject right. Thats why I thought of holding it
15:33:07 <shrini> if so, you can give talks on some other topic too
15:33:18 <shrini> pick some small topics and give talks
15:33:23 <sethu_payilagam> :)
15:33:25 <annamalai> shrini I don't know him exactly, now only got to know that he was a strict enforcer but I remember reading about him long time back because of a old mail in mailing list. I think he was a lawyer who embraced foss and was living in ooty
15:33:37 <annamalai> those timings should be fine
15:33:46 <sugi> Shrini tomorrow's timings got changed, or same 7-8pm?
15:33:54 <shrini> not tomorrow
15:34:06 <shrini> time change, from the day db class starts
15:34:18 <sugi> OK
15:34:39 <sethu_payilagam> I will try Shrini or i will be a listener for a few sessions :)
15:34:54 <sugi> let me sign off, thanks shrini
15:35:14 <sethu_payilagam> Sugi , from the earlier message from Shrini it would be from Nov 18th
15:35:27 <shrini> ok sugi. this week 7-8 only
15:35:27 <sethu_payilagam> the IRC session time change!
15:35:50 <sugi> yes noticed sethu and shrini
15:35:52 <sugi> thanks
15:36:11 <shrini> this week 7-8 pm IST
15:36:25 <shrini> from nov 18, it is 8-9 pm IST
15:36:27 <Varun777> shrini: I have thought my presentation for "Intro to julia" need to be done in Canva, As I dont know on using any ppt softwares. Using Libre Office Impress was tough for me.
15:36:27 <Varun777> Because of guidelines, I have done my ppt using Libreoffice impress for a day, makes me more tough to do as compared to canva.
15:36:29 <Varun777> But, I am satisfied on doing my first ppt in Libre office. I have used only canva for my entire clg life for presentation.
15:36:31 <sugi> let me connect tomorrow
15:37:01 <shrini> Varun777: yes, there are many easy ways
15:37:10 <shrini> many easy OS than linux
15:37:28 <shrini> but, they are not for learning FOSS
15:37:46 <shrini> if you use libreoffice today, in some day, you will contribute for it
15:37:56 <shrini> like reporting some bug, testing as a QA
15:38:14 <shrini> package it, write document it, give talks about it in some event and conference
15:38:25 <shrini> one day, you will write code for it
15:38:33 <shrini> it all starts with using it
15:39:01 <shrini> thats why we says as "using FOSS itself a good contribution"
15:39:44 <Varun777> 👍
15:40:48 <shrini> tmux
15:40:48 <shrini> libreoffice
15:40:48 <shrini> gimp
15:40:48 <shrini> inkscape
15:40:48 <shrini> interesting linux commnads - get from https://terminaltrove.com/
15:40:48 <shrini> software installation in linux
15:40:48 <shrini> networking basics
15:40:49 <shrini> small games for kids
15:40:49 <shrini> games for adults
15:40:50 <shrini> gcompris - educational suite
15:41:01 <shrini> sethu_payilagam: you can talk about anything above
15:41:10 <shrini> it will take only some 30 min to prepare
15:41:24 <shrini> continue giving some talk every week
15:41:32 <shrini> as long as it is possible for you
15:43:02 <shrini> thats how we can make the meetings going on for long years
15:43:13 <shrini> we need more speakers
15:48:33 <sethu_payilagam> sure Shrini
15:50:05 <sethu_payilagam> Or I will go through the sylabus or get in touch with Syed to see if he plans to cover the internal of postgres. If not I will try to take byte sized sessions on those.. that way it will help me as well. I miss my DBA work offlate :(
15:54:05 <shrini-irccloud> https://parottasalna.com/postgres-database-syllabus/
15:54:15 <shrini-irccloud> Syed syllabus is here
15:54:27 <shrini-irccloud> You can fill with the missing items here
15:54:40 <shrini-irccloud> Good to go deeper with the internals
15:54:55 <sethu_payilagam> Sure Shrini
15:57:22 <zenmov> what this channel is about? (it's not in the topic)
16:12:08 <mohan43u> annamalai: KG was on a different level, he could counter any argument instantly, we cannot. I still remember fearing of sending mail to ILUGC mailing list just not to get some beating from KG :)
16:13:35 <mohan43u> annamalai: but realized he did it for the better of the group, I think he spanked anyone who spread stupidity in that mailing list for a long time.
16:13:52 <mohan43u> annamalai: it it sad he is not with us anymore
16:17:59 <shrini-irccloud> His teachings are there with us
16:18:44 <shrini-irccloud> What else we can give to the community, other than knowledge?
16:19:20 <shrini-irccloud> Only the knowledge is passed to others, generations by generations
16:19:43 <shrini-irccloud> Which is the key sprit of all FOSS culture
16:21:57 <mohan43u> shrini-irccloud: true.
17:04:00 <annamalai> mohan43u: oh damn. yeah and nice to remember old memories. 
17:04:09 <annamalai> This kinda makes me to dig up the archives and look his arguements
17:55:48 <hariharan> fury999io: You blog post links are having 404 did you removed files?  
17:58:07 <hariharan> shrini: I have started added unit testing using the phpunit so far i have completed 4 functions in unit testing 
17:59:34 <shrini> fury999io told that his blog is still in development
17:59:43 <shrini> nice hariharan
17:59:47 <shrini> thanks for the nice works
18:00:15 <shrini> requesting you to write some articles on kaniyam.com too
18:00:25 <shrini> we need more writers for it
18:03:27 <hariharan> Which checks the setup depedencies and mathirai of a word in that  while searching for other resources i found menyappu website csharp port of avalokitham i think 
18:03:27 <hariharan> In that menyappu mathirai calculator i found vadamozhi letters have 0.5 mathirai but in open tamil it is showing 0 for it 
18:04:12 <shrini> menyappu? link please?
18:06:07 <hariharan> www.menyappu.com/Games/MathiraiCalculator
18:09:35 <shrini> interesting
18:09:47 <shrini> good to know that many tools and websites are built for tamil
18:09:56 <shrini> but sad to see that they are not opensourced
18:10:06 <shrini> they live for some short time and die
18:10:56 <hariharan> I saw that source is available over github 
18:11:03 <hariharan> Let me check once again 
18:12:04 <shrini> oh, I dont see any license info or git link on the website
18:12:16 <hariharan> https://github.com/rajajhansi/MenYappu
18:17:37 <hariharan> Raja he is not so active after 2016 
18:23:43 <shrini> send him some email
18:23:54 <shrini> to add the git link on the website
18:24:06 <shrini> as site is still active, someone is paying for the domain and the hosting
18:50:47 <hariharan> rajajhansi⊙gc is the mail id i have sent a mail but it shows delivery failure...  
18:58:30 <fury999io> >You blog post links are having 404 did you removed files?
18:58:49 <fury999io> hariharan, not removed, they were never created
18:58:53 <fury999io> i will create
19:28:23 <shrini> hariharan: oh
19:28:50 <shrini> then create an issue here - https://github.com/rajajhansi/MenYappu/issues
19:29:01 <shrini> most of the gmail accounts are full
19:29:16 <shrini> due to sync of whatsapp and photos/videos from phone
19:31:04 <shrini> we have to clean gmail constantly