06:53:17 <Varun777> hi all
06:54:23 <Armageddon> \o
11:02:43 <fury999io> the jitsi confernce will be tomorrow at 3 pm right?
11:03:26 <fury999io> i will be travelling at the time so i will just join and hear others, i will speak some other day
11:35:42 <sethu_payilagam> sethu_payilagam: read this post on plaintext == simple yet very powerful message.. never thought a simple text file is so powerful.. Thanks for sharing shrini!
13:04:58 <annamalai> read a book named "git commit murder" written by Michael W Lucas. It was like Thuruvangal but in a murder mystery setup with BSD 
13:13:46 <mohan43u> annamalai: you finished dhuruvangal?
13:34:53 <shrini> hello all
13:37:11 <shrini> https://mwl.io/fiction/crime
13:37:24 <annamalai> mohan43u: yes. I read every dhuruvangal post as soon as it was published in kaniyam website
13:37:36 <shrini> wow. nice annamalai 
13:37:38 <shrini> thanks
13:38:01 <fury999io> annamalai, is there a website for this channel?
13:40:17 <annamalai> yes https://kaniyam.com/
13:46:45 <fury999io> oh cool
13:51:30 <anish> hi everyone
13:51:32 <sugi> Hello Everybody.
13:51:43 <varun888> hi all
13:54:28 <sugi> hi hariharan very sorry first of all
13:54:50 <shrini-irccloud> Hello all
13:54:53 <shrini-irccloud> https://sive.rs/plaintext
13:54:59 <shrini-irccloud> Read this post
13:55:12 <hariharan> Why what happened?  sugi 
13:55:14 <sugi> I did not notice when u tell somethig reg frontend - very sorry
13:56:07 <sugi> just when i go through chat history yesterday i noticed it (actually side by side i was working on the project, so noticed only shrini messages)  very sorry
13:56:34 <shrini-irccloud> sugi: no need for sorries
13:56:48 <sugi> shrini - I have updated the old blog for AddrBook - can u have a look on it please
13:56:59 <shrini-irccloud> We have logs enabled for reading later
13:57:11 <sugi> but now logs could not see
13:57:11 <hariharan> Not a problem  at all everyone  have their own priorities 
13:57:20 <shrini-irccloud> Checking the blog
13:57:33 <sugi> hariharan : thanks for the understanding
13:57:39 <hariharan> Just look into when you want to master the frontend
13:58:33 <sugi> when i think about front end - oh my god -- i feel like down.  so now lets postpone this
13:58:43 <shrini-irccloud> sugi: can you share the blog URL here?
13:58:51 <sugi> ok shrini
13:59:12 <sugi> https://sugidiary.wordpress.com/2024/10/26/address-book/
13:59:55 <anish> shrini i'm working on the blog for installing arch linux
14:00:14 <anish> i'm only doing it for uefi systems is it fine
14:00:24 <shrini-irccloud> sugi: the form in the blog is nice
14:00:48 <sugi> Another blog will get ready in 10mins which i completed75% for till today
14:00:52 <sugi> thanks shrini
14:01:14 <shrini-irccloud> For next CSS works, just use bootstrap only
14:01:23 <shrini-irccloud> Don't add any other custom works
14:01:34 <shrini-irccloud> Just a form , one by one 
14:01:38 <shrini-irccloud> And bootstrap
14:01:52 <shrini-irccloud> That will be simple and neat
14:02:13 <shrini-irccloud> No need to break our heads on beautifying the form
14:02:21 <shrini-irccloud> anish: thanks
14:02:45 <shrini-irccloud> anish: publish the One day one command content in your blog too
14:03:13 <shrini-irccloud> After a good collection, release it as free ebook
14:04:11 <anish> no shrini its possible because of you only
14:04:28 <shrini-irccloud> hariharan: can you record a video of open-tamil-php works and share to release in TamilLinuxCommunity YouTube channel?
14:04:38 <anish> I'm updating in the blog also everyday
14:06:01 <shrini-irccloud> https://blogs.kaniyam.cloudns.nz
14:06:12 <shrini-irccloud> Not seeing anish blog updates here
14:06:28 <shrini-irccloud> Share your blog URL once again here 
14:06:45 <anish> ok shrini
14:07:54 <shrini-irccloud> hariharan: write blog on the progress too
14:08:12 <shrini-irccloud> varun888: hi
14:08:30 <shrini-irccloud> Is this the same varun we meet here daily ?
14:09:14 <anish> https://dev.to/anish_kumar_eea79f528747d/one-day-one-commandcli-2m17
14:09:45 <shrini-irccloud> Ah
14:09:57 <shrini-irccloud> Please split into individual posts
14:10:13 <shrini-irccloud> Always work on new posts
14:10:16 <shrini-irccloud> As the content Is new
14:10:36 <shrini-irccloud> Just imagine, in some 3 months, you will be posting around 100/commands
14:10:52 <anish> should i create a new post everyday then?
14:10:54 <shrini-irccloud> How can we read about 100 commands in one single post ?
14:10:57 <shrini-irccloud> Yes
14:11:06 <shrini-irccloud> Publish one post per command
14:11:17 <shrini-irccloud> Just like your daily emails
14:11:38 <anish> ok shrini
14:13:03 <shrini-irccloud> If possible, create an account in Vern.cc
14:13:24 <shrini-irccloud> Explore about gemini protocol
14:13:39 <shrini-irccloud> And publish your ODOC as Gemini capsules too
14:13:49 <shrini-irccloud> Not a hurry thing
14:14:06 <shrini-irccloud> Just to learn some other side of plaintext based internet
14:14:11 <anish> ok shrini i will check later
14:14:19 <shrini-irccloud> Hi srshankar 
14:14:31 <shrini-irccloud> varun888: 
14:14:38 <shrini-irccloud> Welcome
14:14:45 <shrini-irccloud> Share your introduction
14:15:51 <shrini-irccloud> https://forums.tamillinuxcommunity.org/t/proposal-for-webinar/2655/3
14:16:14 <shrini-irccloud> There is a webinar on Machine learning basics in Tamil tomorrow
14:16:18 <shrini-irccloud> Attend if possible
14:16:24 <shrini-irccloud> Details are in above link
14:18:14 <sethu_payilagam> Hi Shrini. Finally, an ice breaker moment. Able to create a pdf based on my input. And I implemented the same for my billing app. Now it is much better in terms of formatting. I will update the blog post shortly
14:19:19 <shrini-irccloud> Nice sethu_payilagam 
14:19:35 <shrini-irccloud> Hope it is a good learning thing
14:19:49 <anish> i'm working on the arch linux installation blog
14:20:02 <shrini-irccloud> Good anish 
14:20:08 <shrini-irccloud> Hope you installed gui
14:20:18 <anish> yes installed sway
14:20:20 <shrini-irccloud> And using it for all your computer usage
14:20:29 <shrini-irccloud> Don t goto windows for any reason
14:20:55 <shrini-irccloud> Sway is cool
14:21:04 <shrini-irccloud> Super fast
14:21:25 <shrini-irccloud> Write blog about that too
14:21:37 <anish> i'm having some data in windows i have to import it here
14:21:49 <shrini-irccloud> Give a talk about sway in some ilugc or kanchilug meets
14:22:04 <shrini-irccloud> You can access windows drive from linux
14:22:13 <shrini-irccloud> The other way only is not possible
14:22:18 <shrini-irccloud> No need to copy here
14:22:34 <shrini-irccloud> Mount the windows drives in linux
14:22:45 <shrini-irccloud> Search on how to list the drives and mount them
14:23:03 <anish> ok shrini  i will learn it
14:23:41 <anish> but the blog i'm only doing it for uefi systems as i think its a little different for bios systems
14:23:53 <anish> i don't know a lot in that
14:23:58 <anish> is it fine?
14:24:03 <shrini-irccloud> Write only what you have and what you did
14:24:15 <shrini-irccloud> We can not create universal tutorials
14:24:27 <anish> ok shrini
14:24:54 <shrini-irccloud> Blogs can be always in our point of view
14:25:11 <anish> ok shrini
14:25:51 <shrini-irccloud> sethu_payilagam: the joy of seeing the desired output from our code is always great
14:26:22 <anish> half the times when i log into system it says wlan0 device not found when i try to connect to wifi and it works fine if i restart the system
14:26:30 <anish> is there a fix
14:26:58 <shrini-irccloud> Ask in forums.tamillinuxcommunity.org/
14:27:17 <shrini-irccloud> There should be fixes
14:27:32 <shrini-irccloud> Mostly it will be upgrading to latest kernel
14:27:40 <shrini-irccloud> Try upgrading the kernel
14:27:41 <anish> ok shrini i will check
14:27:55 <anish> ok shrini i will try that also
14:28:06 <shrini-irccloud> Arch should give updates from developers machine directly :-)
14:29:06 <anish> by developer's machine do you mean my machine
14:31:20 <shrini-irccloud> No no
14:31:43 <shrini-irccloud> I meant that arch can give daily updates of all software
14:32:01 <shrini-irccloud> As soon as the developers does a git commit
14:32:09 <shrini-irccloud> Ubuntu takes 6 months
14:32:19 <shrini-irccloud> Debian stable takes years
14:32:30 <shrini-irccloud> Arch can give on the same day too
14:33:24 <anish> is that why some are called stable and some unstable
14:33:42 <shrini-irccloud> Yes
14:33:54 <shrini-irccloud> Stable, testing, unstable are in debian
14:34:04 <shrini-irccloud> Arch is called rolling upgrade
14:34:13 <shrini-irccloud> We can upgrade arch daily
14:34:23 <shrini-irccloud> But it is untested
14:34:35 <shrini-irccloud> Actually the users are testing directly
14:34:43 <shrini-irccloud> And report the bugs
14:34:50 <shrini-irccloud> If it breaks the system
14:35:04 <anish> that is cool
14:35:35 <anish> is that why I should update the system packages once in a whie using Syu
14:37:31 <sethu_payilagam> sethu_payilagam: the joy of seeing the desired output from our code is always great - 100%. 
14:38:15 <sethu_payilagam> the point is that the solution was also just around the corner but i was so much into one approach and got stuck there.
14:39:54 <shrini-irccloud> Once you are fine with using arch
14:40:09 <shrini-irccloud> Explore how to package new software from source
14:40:47 <shrini-irccloud> And contribute to arch repositories
14:41:22 <shrini-irccloud> Packaging and maintaining is great way of contributing to distros
14:41:51 <shrini-irccloud> Yes sethu_payilagam 
14:42:09 <shrini-irccloud> Solutions are near our eyes
14:42:24 <shrini-irccloud> We have to learn to look from little distance
14:42:34 <anish> ok shrini i will learn but i think i will do that after exams
14:46:00 <shrini-irccloud> Yes. I share here just to take notes and mark in your future TODO list
14:46:22 <shrini-irccloud> So that you will have some roadmap to explore in a year
14:51:52 <anish> wow thank you so much shrini
14:53:33 <anish> its so great that you take time out of your calendar for other people to improve
14:53:59 <shrini-irccloud> Its not like that
14:54:24 <shrini-irccloud> We need more hands for open source software to thrive for generations
14:55:02 <shrini-irccloud> We receive tons and tons of software, tutorials, with open source
14:55:28 <shrini-irccloud> All my career , job, money, growth  are by open source only
14:55:43 <shrini-irccloud> I am just giving my contribution
14:55:53 <shrini-irccloud> To create more more conteibutors
14:56:24 <shrini-irccloud> All I do here are done by previous generation for me
14:56:32 <shrini-irccloud> I am doing a pay it forward
14:56:44 <shrini-irccloud> You will also be doing the same in future
14:58:06 <shrini> I am back to my desktop
14:58:37 <shrini> discussing with open source friends is always happiest thing for me
14:58:52 <shrini> with FOSS communities, we will get friends for lifelong
14:59:00 <anish> But still I owe my thanks to you
14:59:05 <shrini> working with like minded people is a bliss
15:01:16 <anish> i don't have much experience but I think that is true
15:02:16 <shrini> you will get to realise these soon
15:02:59 <sethu_payilagam> how are you accessing the IRC from your mobile Shrini, any app?
15:03:52 <shrini> i use irccloud app
15:04:01 <shrini> which is not opensource
15:04:09 <shrini> but better than any other app
15:04:25 <shrini> other apps closes the connection if we switch to other apps
15:04:37 <shrini> but irccloud keeps the connection open in background
15:04:42 <shrini> so that we can stay connected
15:04:56 <sethu_payilagam> ok Shrini. I will give it a try
15:05:10 <shrini> after the Day light savings time changed, this chat hours went back for one hour
15:05:25 <shrini> which collides with my time for preparing 3 kids to school
15:05:33 <hariharan> I have updated pr i thing muthu is little busy by pr is not review  yet i thing this weekend he will do 
15:05:42 <shrini> I need to cook for them, wake them up, prepare for school
15:05:50 <sethu_payilagam> Please take a break Shrini
15:05:51 <shrini> and drop in school bus near hour
15:06:12 <shrini> thats fine
15:06:19 <shrini> kids are grown only
15:06:30 <shrini> I have to keep ordering them to do the things
15:06:31 <sethu_payilagam> I am still fighting with my sleep cycle for the past one week..
15:06:34 <sethu_payilagam> it is tough
15:07:48 <sethu_payilagam> esp for kids it is even more tough to adjust the time change.. 
15:08:24 <shrini> yes
15:08:30 <sethu_payilagam> hearing it for years now about the decision not to adapt the Daylight saving format.. but nothing is happening
15:08:43 <shrini> they wont change it
15:09:06 <shrini> there is a reason for the Daylight time changes
15:09:19 <shrini> in winter, it helps a lot to be normal
15:09:41 <sethu_payilagam> not sure Shrini.. I am not buying that fact.. 
15:10:04 <sethu_payilagam> especially when you compare the changes your body is going through i think it is not worth it
15:10:36 <shrini> hmm
15:10:43 <shrini> thats true
15:11:27 <shrini> we are trying to cheat mind and body with time change
15:12:05 <sethu_payilagam> yes
15:19:25 <shrini> sethu_payilagam: check any bill from any shop
15:19:38 <shrini> and compare with your bill pdf
15:19:52 <shrini> apply all the formatting fixes
15:20:05 <sethu_payilagam> Sure Shrini. That is my next step
15:24:24 <shrini> you are so close to the perfect bill
15:24:30 <shrini> add a table
15:24:36 <shrini> add header/footer
15:24:45 <shrini> add number to text for the price
15:25:02 <sethu_payilagam> Ok Shrini
15:25:05 <shrini> with all these, the bill will be a real one
15:25:20 <sethu_payilagam> Thanks for all the push! :)
15:25:27 <sethu_payilagam> in a good way!
15:25:38 <shrini> https://reachmesethu.wordpress.com/2024/11/08/task6-new-version-of-integrating-the-store-billing-app-to-produce-a-well-formatted-pdf-file-using-python/
15:25:50 <shrini> thanks for the documenting the progress
15:28:07 <anish> i will try to finish the installation guide by tommorow or day after tommorow
15:28:21 <anish> i will join again tommorow
15:34:45 <shrini> https://www.ted.com/talks/derek_sivers_how_to_start_a_movement?subtitle=en
15:34:55 <shrini> see this video by derek sivers
15:51:27 <shrini> sugi: wishes for your tomorrow talk at ilugc
15:53:35 <sugi> shrini I did not prepare still
15:53:45 <sugi> still working on AddrBook project
15:54:01 <sugi> Tomorrow have to spend time on that
15:55:15 <sugi> And any guidelines link is there - to give the speech or any special controls have to be used?  This is very first time 
15:55:34 <sugi> Even I don't the controls
16:00:57 <shrini> just talk casually
16:01:06 <shrini> give some time for talk preparation
16:01:23 <shrini> it will help a lot
16:02:20 <sugi> ok shrini
16:03:10 <sugi> shrini I don't know how to get the link of a particular folder in my gitlab
16:04:24 <shrini> check thea addressbar
16:04:27 <shrini> it has the url
16:05:13 <sugi> OK
16:10:31 <sugi> Please check the post shrini
16:10:48 <shrini> share the post url here
16:12:12 <shrini> got it
16:12:13 <shrini> https://sugidiary.wordpress.com/2024/11/08/address-book-v2-0-as-on-08nov2024-development-in-progress/
16:13:40 <shrini> sugi: nice work
16:13:49 <shrini> happy to see the progress
16:13:59 <sugi> thank you shrini
16:14:03 <shrini> add the git repo URL on the post too
16:14:19 <shrini> on the screenshots, hope the phone numbers are not real
16:14:21 <sugi> shrini from the url just we need to copy and paste the link
16:14:39 <shrini> yes
16:15:50 <sugi> shrini can u check now please?
16:16:58 <shrini> gitlab url is not opening
16:17:04 <shrini> it should be like this
16:17:05 <shrini> https://gitlab.com/boopalan-dev/tamilrulepy/
16:17:15 <shrini> gitlab.com/username/reponame
16:17:34 <sugi> ok shrini let me try ow
16:20:49 <shrini> sugi: youc an fix the urls later too
16:21:06 <shrini> hope it is too late for you
16:21:30 <sugi> yes shrini
16:21:33 <shrini> have good sleep and tomorrow do your best on the talk
16:22:22 <sugi> I did not complete so many class tasks - so after tomorrow I should give some more time also I think
16:22:45 <shrini> yes, sure
16:23:09 <shrini> you can consider those tasks as your project
16:23:15 <shrini> and share the updates here
16:23:29 <shrini> if you have nothing in hand, improve the addressbook
16:23:42 <sugi> so this AddrBook further progress may slow down, Is it OK shrini? Or else let me try to complete on Sunday then from Monday about 3 days at least I have to work on homework
16:23:44 <shrini> we can do too many projects in parallel
16:24:04 <shrini> park the addressbook for future work
16:24:15 <shrini> focus on current homeworks based tasks
16:24:25 <sugi> OK shrini thanks
16:24:27 <shrini> so that you can follow the current classes
16:24:44 <shrini> share the homework progress in blog and here
16:24:57 <sugi> sure - I have lot of pending
16:25:09 <sugi> ok shrini let me sign off now. thanks
16:25:29 <shrini> ok. good night. thanks
16:27:43 <shrini> hariharan: muthu annamalai is a super busy person
16:27:51 <shrini> he is a scientist
16:29:32 <shrini> he may take some to reply
16:29:34 <shrini> lets wait
16:48:14 <hariharan> What kind of scientist 
16:48:20 <hariharan> ?
17:17:12 <shrini> https://www.linkedin.com/in/muthiahannamalai/
17:21:56 <shrini> I think he has PhD in optics or semi conductors
17:22:02 <shrini> he worked on compiler design
17:22:12 <shrini> now he is into machine learning