13:31:49 <shrini> hello Loganathan 
13:31:52 <shrini> welcome
13:32:05 <shrini> share some intro about yourself
13:33:09 <shrini> i will be back in 5-6 min
13:43:17 <shrini-irccloud> Hello all
13:57:59 <shrini-irccloud> So silent today
13:58:07 <shrini-irccloud> Any body there?
13:58:13 <sugi> hi Shrini
13:58:26 <sugi> working on addressbook
13:58:46 <shrini-irccloud> Good evening
13:58:54 <sugi> Good evening shrini
13:58:56 <shrini-irccloud> Share the progress 
13:59:18 <sugi> Adding data done, and listing rows also
13:59:33 <sugi> but displaying table data is not aligned
13:59:48 <sugi> now delete code is writing
13:59:58 <shrini-irccloud> Good
14:00:15 <shrini-irccloud> Are you updating the blog with daily progress?
14:00:27 <shrini-irccloud> With screen shots?
14:00:32 <sugi> shrini, it looks ugly
14:01:08 <shrini-irccloud> No issues
14:01:28 <shrini-irccloud> House will be ugly on building stage
14:01:28 <sethu_payilagam> Good morning Shrini
14:01:34 <sugi> ok now edit is getting over, then will upload it
14:01:42 <shrini-irccloud> But documenting the progress is important
14:01:49 <sugi> shrini you have great examples
14:01:59 <sugi> ok i will do it today
14:02:05 <shrini-irccloud> Every day, write a blog with progress
14:02:09 <sugi> ok
14:02:21 <shrini-irccloud> We want only daily progress report
14:02:24 <sethu_payilagam> I couldn't make any progress on the pdf formatting yet. Not getting the correct idea
14:02:28 <shrini-irccloud> Not the final exam result
14:02:34 <sugi> but in the current blog replacing the old code and screen shot, right?
14:02:39 <shrini-irccloud> sethu_payilagam: ok
14:02:52 <shrini-irccloud> sugi: don't replce
14:02:59 <shrini-irccloud> Add new posts always
14:03:20 <sugi> so it will be multiple posts with the same project?
14:03:27 <shrini-irccloud> Yes
14:03:35 <shrini-irccloud> That's what the daily progress is
14:03:54 <sugi> in wordpress ? (in gitlab automatically will have the version)
14:04:14 <sethu_payilagam> in the current code block, i have consolidated all the text and then passing it to a pdf writer method.. but it looks like i need to look for some other approach. 
14:04:17 <sugi> oh I am replacing with new code everytime
14:04:31 <shrini-irccloud> In WordPress
14:04:39 <shrini-irccloud> Git is for code
14:04:50 <sugi> ok shrini
14:05:26 <sethu_payilagam> any direction or ideas? Shrini or anyone?
14:05:33 <sugi> so in wordpress just documenation and screenshot and in gitlab code, right?
14:05:39 <shrini-irccloud> In blog, add screenshot , code link and what you learnt and feel about the progress
14:05:49 <shrini-irccloud> Yes
14:05:56 <sugi> ok shrini
14:06:10 <sugi> now let me continue the work
14:06:43 <shrini-irccloud> Ok
14:07:01 <shrini-irccloud> sethu_payilagam: do you have any questions on PDF ?
14:07:15 <shrini-irccloud> Loganathan: hello
14:08:13 <sethu_payilagam> yes Shrini.. i am kind of stuck at a point where i am not sure how to feed the text to pdf a) write to a text and then convert it to a pdf or b) write sequentially to a pdf file
14:08:34 <shrini-irccloud> B
14:08:58 <shrini-irccloud> Text to PDF conversion won't have bold, italic, heading etc
14:09:25 <sethu_payilagam> ok Shrini. but if i write sequentially the format should be decided dynamically correct. Like the company name should be center aligned and the item description should be left and something like that
14:09:32 <shrini-irccloud> In option b, you will have fine control over the design, font, color,  size of the text
14:09:47 <shrini-irccloud> Yes
14:09:56 <shrini-irccloud> Learn how to build a pdf
14:10:04 <sethu_payilagam> ok Shrini.. sure
14:10:07 <shrini-irccloud> From scratch with python
14:10:22 <shrini-irccloud> That will help to get bill nicely
14:10:31 <sethu_payilagam> may i will take a break from this billing module and start pdf building from scratch
14:10:32 <shrini-irccloud> Need 2 bills
14:10:45 <sethu_payilagam> ok Shrini
14:10:50 <shrini-irccloud> For A4 and for small thermal paper bill size
14:10:59 <shrini-irccloud> Yes
14:11:19 <shrini-irccloud> PDF Alone is a good thing to practise separately
14:11:20 <sethu_payilagam> you are smart! please accept my compliment :)
14:11:31 <shrini-irccloud> Ah
14:11:42 <sethu_payilagam> you know how to feed :)
14:12:04 <sethu_payilagam> food for thoughts.. i am laughing alone here :) 
14:12:10 <shrini-irccloud> You only came with 2 options
14:12:16 <shrini-irccloud> I just chose one
14:12:19 <shrini-irccloud> :-)
14:12:44 <sethu_payilagam> i am struggling with basic option and you slowly feeding thought for the next steps.. :D
14:12:47 <shrini-irccloud> Most of the times, we will get more clarity , when we write things
14:13:17 <shrini-irccloud> We ignore or miss writing as we grow
14:13:30 <shrini-irccloud> And stuck with chaos
14:13:49 <sethu_payilagam> 100% Shrini.. 
14:14:17 <shrini-irccloud> That's why I ask people to write and read in IRC
14:14:24 <shrini-irccloud> Its slow process
14:14:27 <sethu_payilagam> let me work on the pdf building part and update you
14:14:37 <shrini-irccloud> Which is essential to think slow
14:14:43 <shrini-irccloud> Sure
14:14:50 <sethu_payilagam> yes, infact for the past few days it was the slowest progress
14:15:31 <shrini-irccloud> That's means you are trying many things and learning
14:15:43 <shrini-irccloud> That's what the goal is
14:16:10 <shrini-irccloud> The goal of doing project is to learn
14:16:42 <sethu_payilagam> :) pls say something negative to make me feel embarrased and focus more.. just kidding, you are very nice :D
14:16:45 <shrini-irccloud> Result Is a side effect, always
14:17:22 <shrini-irccloud> That won't work out for us
14:17:35 <shrini-irccloud> We are grown
14:17:40 <shrini-irccloud> We know what to do
14:17:54 <shrini-irccloud> If we want to do something, we will do for sure
14:18:15 <shrini-irccloud> If we miss to do, it means we don't want to do 
14:18:23 <shrini-irccloud> Or having other priorities
14:18:35 <shrini-irccloud> This is common for all tasks we do
14:18:57 <shrini-irccloud> We can not be super productive all the days
14:19:07 <sethu_payilagam> True.. but sometimes we atleast I tend to focus on many things at once and lose the focus.. that behaviour is with me for many days years
14:19:13 <shrini-irccloud> Sometimes, life will give more other tasks
14:19:36 <shrini-irccloud> Read the book 'Eat That Frog'
14:19:53 <shrini-irccloud> That one book is enough to read and implement 
14:20:07 <shrini-irccloud> To get more focus and productivity
14:20:07 <sethu_payilagam> Sure Shrini
14:20:18 <shrini-irccloud> Start with writing all TODO items
14:20:37 <shrini-irccloud> mark as A,B,C based on priority
14:20:46 <sethu_payilagam> not sure how to fix that.. if someone tells this is good and you can succeed in this, i will follow.. tomorrow if someone else tells something i will follow and for initial few days i will be having my hands on both.. and it goes on
14:20:50 <shrini-irccloud> Don't start B until all A is done
14:21:11 <sethu_payilagam> yes.. that sounds more meaningful.
14:21:14 <sethu_payilagam> i will try that
14:21:37 <shrini-irccloud> Always work on TODO list only
14:21:48 <shrini-irccloud> Don't do anything that is not in the list
14:22:02 <shrini-irccloud> Keep on adding new tasks in kisy
14:22:05 <shrini-irccloud> List
14:22:19 <shrini-irccloud> And work on those tasks only
14:22:29 <shrini-irccloud> I follow the same for many years
14:22:38 <sethu_payilagam> sure Shrini.. 
14:23:06 <sethu_payilagam> Sorry for sharing my boring thoughts.. but my best enemy is the youtube feeds.. i will start with reading something regarding the say python and will easy get drifted with other recommendations.. and the link goes on and on and on.. 
14:23:09 <shrini-irccloud> My goal for every day is to complete only 3 A, 3 B, 3 C items
14:23:13 <shrini-irccloud> No more than that
14:23:23 <sethu_payilagam> makes sense
14:23:37 <shrini-irccloud> Don't watch videos
14:23:42 <shrini-irccloud> Always read text
14:24:01 <shrini-irccloud> For python, python.swaroopch.com/
14:24:07 <shrini-irccloud> This book is enough
14:24:27 <shrini-irccloud> To learn anything, look for reading text always
14:24:41 <sethu_payilagam> yes shrini.. i am trying to... but not used to reading even during my childhood days.. finding it hard to focus
14:24:43 <shrini-irccloud> Reading and writing only will give the learning in brain
14:24:55 <shrini-irccloud> Watching will vanish in minutes
14:25:11 <sethu_payilagam> understood Shrini.. i will give that a try 
14:25:40 <shrini-irccloud> https://freetamilebooks.com/why-cant-we-read-anymore/
14:25:55 <shrini-irccloud> https://hughmcguire.medium.com/why-can-t-we-read-anymore-503c38c131fe
14:26:01 <shrini-irccloud> Read these posts
14:26:11 <shrini-irccloud> The fear of reading text is global one
14:26:17 <sethu_payilagam> Everyone - Apologies for starting with my grievances first thing in the day. Hope you all dont mind!
14:26:29 <shrini-irccloud> We need such discussions here
14:26:43 <shrini-irccloud> These are essentials skills as good as tech
14:26:52 <shrini-irccloud> We can discuss anything here
14:27:05 <sethu_payilagam> Thank you Shrini!
14:27:08 <shrini-irccloud> Life, finance, habits, anything
14:27:31 <shrini-irccloud> We are a collection of all these things
14:27:41 <shrini-irccloud> Proceed with the discussions
14:28:55 <shrini-irccloud> https://www.amazon.ca/Eat-That-Frog-Great-Procrastinating/dp/162656941X
14:29:01 <shrini-irccloud> Order this book
14:29:11 <shrini-irccloud> And read the above links later today
14:29:27 <sethu_payilagam> Sure Shrini
14:29:33 <shrini-irccloud> The fear of reading and writing text is the big enemy of us
14:29:48 <shrini-irccloud> Which is preventing us to become what we wish
14:30:27 <shrini-irccloud> Stop consuming video
14:30:40 <shrini-irccloud> And endless scrolling on social media
14:31:54 <shrini-irccloud> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/11/steve-hilton-silicon-valley-no-cellphone-technology-apps-uber
14:32:20 <shrini-irccloud> http://tshrinivasan.blogspot.com/2016/12/ceo-with-no-mobile.html?m=1
14:32:38 <shrini-irccloud> There lives a CEO, with no mobile phone
14:32:49 <sethu_payilagam> i have uninstalled insta and fb for a while.. i feel i have more time but during weekends i will start thinking of installing and use it just for the weekends and uninstall again.. but trying all means
14:33:01 <sethu_payilagam> There lives a CEO, with no mobile phone - :O
14:33:26 <sethu_payilagam> i have to follow the same to YT as well.. down the line
14:33:40 <shrini-irccloud> You can scroll social media ad a gift of reading some text for one hour
14:34:21 <shrini-irccloud> http://tshrinivasan.blogspot.com/2015/11/reducing-usage-of-mobile-phone.html?m=1
14:34:36 <shrini-irccloud> Install quality time or digital well being apps
14:34:46 <shrini-irccloud> To measure the hours of phone usage
14:34:54 <shrini-irccloud> You will wonder to see the results
14:34:59 <sethu_payilagam> compared to where i was earlier i am doing much better. but still not enough
14:35:23 <shrini-irccloud> Measure the hours of phone usage
14:35:33 <sethu_payilagam> ok
14:35:33 <shrini-irccloud> And document it somewhere
14:35:53 <shrini-irccloud> It will help to realize how many hours are spent on mobile
14:36:00 <shrini-irccloud> Which we feel like
14:36:08 <shrini-irccloud> I don't have to learn this, that
14:36:26 <shrini-irccloud> But all the hours are going on mobile
14:36:37 <shrini-irccloud> Replace the mobile with reading
14:36:41 <sethu_payilagam> 100%
14:36:47 <shrini-irccloud> Get some physical books from library
14:36:54 <shrini-irccloud> Or buy kindle paperwhite
14:37:08 <shrini-irccloud> Keep books near you always
14:37:27 <shrini-irccloud> When the mind orders to pick mobile, read some ten pages and then takebit
14:37:33 <shrini-irccloud> Take it
14:37:57 <shrini-irccloud> I follow all these and getting good results
14:37:59 <sethu_payilagam> i would've been a better person if i had that qualities of using the libraries Shrini.. sometime i feel very bad about this fact of mine.. but too late.. yet i will try for sure
14:39:15 <shrini-irccloud> Nothing is too late
14:39:24 <shrini-irccloud> Start today
14:39:55 <shrini-irccloud> Start with reading ten pages every day
14:40:03 <sethu_payilagam> For sure Shrini
14:40:06 <shrini-irccloud> Order the book eat that frog
14:40:10 <shrini-irccloud> It is small
14:40:14 <shrini-irccloud> Quick read
14:40:15 <sethu_payilagam> ordered already :)
14:40:22 <shrini-irccloud> Nice
14:40:33 <shrini-irccloud> I read it whenever I feel down
14:40:50 <shrini-irccloud> Mostly quarterly once
14:41:00 <shrini-irccloud> To gain the focus on A tasks
14:41:33 <shrini-irccloud> Mostly I end with spending Time on C tasks
14:41:50 <shrini-irccloud> Which are fun to do, but not essential
14:42:03 <shrini-irccloud> I try to refocus on A 
14:42:50 <sethu_payilagam> Got it Shrini
14:43:00 <sethu_payilagam> I will try the same..
14:43:41 <shrini-irccloud> Once the book is receiced
14:43:51 <shrini-irccloud> Read one chapter daily
14:43:58 <sethu_payilagam> sure
14:44:09 <shrini-irccloud> And share your learning from that chapter here and in your blog
14:44:23 <sethu_payilagam> For sure
14:44:59 <shrini-irccloud> Finally, exercise daily
14:45:09 <shrini-irccloud> Most of us miss it
14:45:30 <shrini-irccloud> Doing some 30 min daily workout will help a lot to gain focus on taks
14:45:35 <shrini-irccloud> Tasks
14:45:37 <sethu_payilagam> i have fixed that part since a year back Shrini
14:45:43 <shrini-irccloud> Good
14:46:02 <sethu_payilagam> included a routine for a minimum of 3 days in a week
14:46:52 <sethu_payilagam> i feel more confident now.. i use to feel and look more sluggish a year back.. but this routine helped me regain that confidence.. you are very true!!
14:48:23 <sethu_payilagam> i didnt lose any weight but the overall ability to do things(even normal things like lifting things, cleaning up etc)  has drastically increased
14:51:22 <shrini> yes
14:51:44 <shrini> regular workouts will help in organizing life very well
14:56:46 <shrini-irccloud> sethu_payilagam: sugi read this book too
14:56:49 <shrini-irccloud> https://kaniyam.com/dhuruvangal-technical-novel/
14:57:06 <shrini> this is a wonderful tamil novel
14:57:13 <shrini> blending love and linux
14:57:34 <shrini> you can read about ilugc meets, TLC forums in this book
14:58:38 <shrini> IRC, terminal, cracking passwords, linux basics, file sytem hirearchy, ffmpeg 
14:58:48 <shrini> all will be covered in a interesting way
14:58:59 <sethu_payilagam> Super.. i think i have got things to do for my reading task today.. i will give it a read Shrini
14:59:15 <shrini> yes
14:59:27 <shrini> the time we spend on reading is the time we spend on our growth
14:59:52 <shrini> text has so much power, which can do magics in mind
15:04:17 <shrini> sethu_payilagam: start reading it and write about it here daily
15:04:40 <shrini> once you have written here, edit the text from the chat logs and publish in your blog too
15:11:53 <shrini> hello Varun777 
15:12:29 <shrini> hello Log
15:12:35 <shrini> Loganathan: 
15:18:26 <shrini> Varun777: we had great discussions today on produtivity hacks
15:18:27 <shrini> https://ircbot.comm-central.org:8080/kaniyam
15:18:33 <shrini> read the chat logs her
15:18:34 <shrini> e
15:20:06 <shrini> https://freetamilebooks.com/ebooks/dhuruvangal-technical-novel/
15:20:10 <shrini> read this book
15:31:14 <shrini> hariharan: welcome
15:31:55 <shrini> muhu has a task on your PR
15:32:09 <shrini> to confirm running all unit tests
15:32:17 <shrini> https://github.com/Ezhil-Language-Foundation/open-tamil/pull/259#issuecomment-2461463960
15:32:39 <hariharan> Yeah shrini unit testing is successfull
15:33:19 <hariharan> I'll  attach screen shot of successfull message from unit test 
15:33:25 <hariharan> In the PR 
15:34:41 <hariharan> In unit testing i have see some test are skipped i don't know why
15:37:24 <shrini> ok
15:50:39 <sugi> /sugi read this book too/ 'Eat That Frog' - this one?
15:51:47 <shrini> Duruvangal is a free ebook
15:51:57 <shrini> "Eat that frog" have to buy
15:52:04 <shrini> suggesting to read both the books
15:52:13 <sugi> I think Muthu Sir already told about this Duruvangal
15:52:21 <sugi> ok shrini
15:52:43 <sugi> let me join tomorrow shrini - thanks
15:55:39 <Varun777> shrini: I have read logs srini, it is so helpful
15:55:52 <shrini> thanks Varun777 
15:56:31 <Varun777> I am going to start theekathir dataset extraction project on Sunday
15:57:30 <Varun777> Tommorrow I will ready for meeting on saturday, need to create slides for that
15:59:34 <Varun777> let me join tommorrow shrini, bye all
16:04:10 <hariharan> shrini:  I have  updated the unittest log just now 
16:04:34 <hariharan> Is muthu is available on irc? 
16:06:01 <shrini> he is not here
16:11:44 <hariharan> Okay then I'll  ping him through mail for that unitlog update 
16:11:56 <shrini> reply on the PR itself
16:12:07 <hariharan> I have done 
16:15:30 <shrini> super
16:16:26 <hariharan> In my own fork not able to run unit tests using github actions 
16:16:47 <hariharan> For open tamil 
16:20:19 <Armageddon> \o/
16:23:59 <shrini> run locally
16:24:09 <shrini> hello Armageddon \o/
16:24:27 <Armageddon> howdy shrini 
16:33:06 <shrini> good
16:33:15 <shrini> we had great discussions today
16:33:27 <shrini> if you get time, go through the chat logs
16:34:02 <shrini> may be we can plan for several  IRC training sessions on multiple topics on life, money, programming, tech, and other things
16:34:53 <Armageddon> hmm
16:35:15 <Armageddon> I have a weird view on things which I'm not sure it would help anyone
16:35:23 <Armageddon> I also suck at all of these
16:40:21 <shrini> :-)
16:40:38 <shrini> may be you can give a session on "intro to IRC"
16:42:22 <Armageddon> my intro was 25 years ago :S
16:42:46 <Armageddon> I haven't run a network in a couple of decades now
16:48:29 <shrini-irccloud> Not for irc admins
16:48:45 <shrini-irccloud> Irc for beginners is fine
16:50:20 <Armageddon> but but what do I know about IRC !
16:54:08 <shrini-irccloud> :-)
16:54:32 <Armageddon> I'll just listen
16:55:04 <Armageddon> I'm sure loads of wise people are going to be talking 
16:57:34 <shrini-irccloud> Ok
16:58:11 <shrini-irccloud> 👍 
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