Good morning Shrini

made a small progress yesterday by securing the db conenctions using configparser

updated the blog post with the same. I will work on formatting the pdf from here.

hello

hello everyone

hi everyone

hello all

apologies for the delay

had to goto kids school

to drop them

its ok

we missed the schoolbus today

hello Karunakaran

oh

welcome

sorry shrini i missed odoc yesterday

shrini you can relax for sometime

shrini:after 5min you can start

thats fine sugi

anish: its okey to miss some days

do on a relax way

you can skip on exam days and preperation days too

so today i made two connected commannds head and tail

nice

thank you shrini

but, make it small always

actually i am currently using ubuntu 22 lts in my laptop and the battery is draining quickly, when i search about the problem i came to know that nvidia graphics card is taking too much power (may be optimization issue) after i turn off my nvidia graphics card the issue was solved. any suggestions.

so that people can learn one byte at a time

hello shrini

yes Karunakaran

GPU is power killer

sudo apt install powertop

and then

sudo powertop

ok shrini i will keep that in mind

this will give you the top most battery killing applications

the gde is also taking too much ram

check them and know who is eating battery

htop, btop are other utilities to know who is eating ram

install them too and test

ok shrini, i will check. thank you.

if you have any queries, you can ask in forums.tamillinuxcommunity.org too

in tamil or english

thank you shrini

shrini I worked on adding new entry - now trying to diaplay all in the list

good

hope it is coming good

and with bootstrap also my design is very worst.

ah

dont think that way

for now, a simple form with bootstrap css is enough

dont worry on the beauty

I am struggling to design -- coding part interestingly doing

that is the headache of frontend designers always

then, you are a born backend engineer

dont worry about the frontend

Shrini : no no

I am OK - learner - beginner

its okey to have a non "wow" frontend

dont spend too much attention to that

actually 2 days completely wasted

there is no wastage in learning

every attempt to do something is some learning

ok shrini

result is not important

the progress and process is important in learning

CSS is not easy as programming

Specifically in SQL any projects are there in Kaniyam?

check this site now

then this

with same content, different CSS can give complete different look

ok

they are done by great designers

check few designs and reply here

Karunakaran: share some intro about you

how did you got to know about this IRC meetings?

ok shrini

what client do you use?

hello shrini, i am following kanchi lug/ villupuram lug from my college days (around 2015), also following your blogs but not frequently.

oh nice Karunakaran

thanks

do you have any blog?

you can read all our blogs at blogs.kaniyam.cloudns.nz

if you have any blog, will add there too

i was tried but not started.

\o

o/

Armageddon: \o/

I'll bbl

sugi: check the above link too, later

ok shrini

shrini If I am working on another window, is there any way to indicate that I received some message in IRC?

do you know shrini, some years before Ezhil language founder mr.Muthaiah Annamalai was arranged a meeting at chennai. I am also one of the person invited by him but due to some personal reasons i cant attend.

sugi: i will explore on IRC notification

oh, nice Karunakaran

check here that event photos on march 24 2018

Is there any channel for emacs

In irc

nice event

#emacs is there hariharan

it is very active

Karunakaran: start a blog soon and write your learnings and activities

hariharan: you too write about the open-tamil-php works

and the other things you do

documenting what we do is very important

it will inspire others

#emacs-beginners is also there

sugi: I am living in terminal or emacs for all my life

for me also, design is tough

even a basic form is tough for me

dont worry much on the design

just add a simple form and add bootstrap css

/documenting what we do is very important// nicely said srini, i realized this long ago. also the truth is i love documenting. I will start soon.

once the addressbook project is completed, we can move to next project

ok shrini

sugi: To sharpen your frontend skills try fronend-mentor websites to learn design principles

I am writing here since nov 1 2006

shrini please give some sql based project

sure

once you are fine with the CRUD thing on data based projects, it is same for all the projects

Create Read Update Delete - CRUD

sugi: You have already a sql project

Address booj

we will be doing the same things for all the projects

hariharan: her current project is using html/css/js and LocalStorage as backend

/

no SQL there

I am writing here since nov 1 2006/ Thats great

once the current addressbook is done, make the same with SQL as backend

but to use SQL, you need a language like python or java

yes let me try on java

as i am learning now

fine, then make it as a command line application first

then, make a web application

sure shrini

I'm writing when ever i have time 3 post per week for consistency right now

yes, thats a good plan

Karunakaran: are you working on any projects?

hariharan is porting open-tamil to php

sugi: how are your talk preparations going on?

shrini: how do you approach old spaghetti code

get the HTML book from here

not yet started, but had discussion with Sir

sure shrini

in slideshare.net, you can get free slides on any topic

you can use them too

no need to work on slides from scratch

ok

at the same time, create small sample HTML files, for each topic

and show them and explain them one by one on the demo tine

time

its ok, if you show only the code or doc and explain

actually planned to show some Registration form which have variety of controls - then from scratch explaining and designing

you can skip slides too

ok

proceed with your plans

Muthu Sir gave this idea

that will be interesting

shrini : have seen the css links

let me try on that

nice

but my own design also will post once its over

then this also like a copy

css zen garden is a good example of how css can give wonderful makeover for same content

CSS itself is a powerful thing

it will take time to master it

it is an art form

like drawing/painting

yes shrini - its an art - thats why struggling :)

so dont go down if you can are not good at any art

ok

go slow and steady

yes

we can not be good at many things at a same time

yes. true

can i sign off now shrini?

hariharan: can you explain your query?

sure sugi

thanks

thanks shrini

sugi://actually 2 days completely wasted//. sugi i have to tell one thing from my experience. In programming/ learning there is no wast of time. While I am working on my project during college days i am very beginner to programming, with my own interest i started to develop some applications, that time i will get more number of errors and mistakes so i will keep trying to solve the errors

but i could not. at the same time i progress only a little bit for a whole day, like if i clear a error in a line then while building the project the error will occur at another line. In my case while i am going sleep i will remember like "i made a progress today" even its a very simple/ small progress its worked for me. at the same time i will visualize my goal. so dont think like this.

no shrini i am not bounded with any projects

correct Karunakaran

progress is important on the learning phase

will ask sugi to read the chatlogs tomorrwo

all our chats are logged here automatically

thanks to our logbot_cc

Karunakaran: do you have time to pick some project?

have to worked on open-tamil ?

hariharan: you got a reply email from muthu

thanks for the PR

even if it changed from null pointer exception to some other error, i will think like i did something today.

hope it get merged soon hariharan

i will work on flask tommorow shrini

nice anish

Karunakaran: check our project ideas from here - github.com/KaniyamFoundation/ProjectIdeas/issues

i will join again tommorow

ok anish

shrini: I have difficulties in understanding old codebases where no framework or clean code practices made in codebase

Its harder to get the flow to know what done there for

welcome to the real world

we have to break our heads with staring the code for hours and hours

that is the only way

good way to start is to add tons comments

with our understanding

even though i dont have time i will look into the project ideas shrini.

near each function/method

thanks Karunakaran

hariharan: add more comments with your understandings

thats is a good start

shrini: I have updated ubuntu os to ssd but it still takes 1.5mins to run the start job

Why?

what is the start job you are refering hariharan ?

do you mean the time taken after login screen and to get the ubuntu desktop?

check the autostarting daemons and stop them all

Ping

sethu_payilagam: thanks for your next postgres talk

annamalai: thanks for the gdb talk at kanchilug

hariharan: systemctl list-unit-files --type=service | less

run this command too

to know what are the services are enabled by default

In Plymouth boot screen after mounting swap system

/dev/uuid/xxxxxx is starting 0s / 1m30s like timer is running after it runs other services like ssh apache mysql starts and ubuntu desktop login is opening

oh

we need to get some more logs to dig deeper

please ask in forums.tamillinuxcommunity.org

shrini: thanks to you as well for insisting to do a talk

Seems with tlp we can save laptop battery