hello vii_majesty fury999io

welcome

happy to meet you both here

thanks for joning

Hi

Varun777: hi

Hi, I have a project idea for extracting text and transform as a dataset for training LLMs, from a famous news magazine called 'theekkathir'. I gonna leave this project as a FOSS project. Shall I carry on? I have a doubt because of this magazine focused on promoting Left ideologies like Communism. Because of that , LLM may get biased after training. Please help on this by proceeding this.

project idea or not

Varun777: afcourse it will be bias towards left when the training input is from left leaning magazine

Varun777: don't expect anything neutral from internet

Varun777: none of the LLMs are neutral anyway

Varun777: I mean to say that the top 10 trained models are not neutral

Varun777: for fun, just ask the famous question from MW of DW+ and see them meltdown like crazy.

Can you give an example to try this?

Varun777: what kind of example? Where you want to try?

I want to try this in chatgpt, from Matt Walsh example questions

Varun777: mate if you know mw, you know the question, ask chatgpt itself, it will answer you

Hi shrini

I am not well, kindly let me connect tomorrow.

hi

i run a news aggregation channel on irc

#india-news

may join if you all find it interesting

hello all

hello Varun777

vii_majesty: fury999io

hello shrini

annamalai: mohan43u

how is it going?

hi @shrini

Varun777: you can scrap the theekadir magazine

as it is the only newspaper released in Creative Commons license

so we will get tons of variery of news

read this issue to know more on the project idea

write an update there on your interest and progress

vii_majesty: hello

doing good

hi fury999io

will join #india-news

what is the meaning of 'kaniyam'

?

ok , I will proceed futher

how are you aggregating the news and send to irc?

vii_majesty: kaniyam = computing in tamil

we started kaniyam.com at 2012 jan 1 as a online tamil magazine for tamil computing articles

oh okay cool

surprising that there is a word for computing in tamil

its for calculating

computing means calculating

கணக்கு

கணினி

can Varun777 vii_majesty fury999io give some intro about yourself and any projects you are working on?

hello, i am a student

Today only I have learnt about IRC. This meeting will happen daily 7-8 pm??

i am not working on any projects at the moment due to studies, but am interested in computing

how about you

I am a college passout 2024.

Please do a video tutorial or docs on connecting IRC with terminal using weechat

Now I am currently using pidgin client

it is easy

have you installed weechat?

vii_majesty: what are you studying? where?

what OS do you all use?

11th cbse

i used to use linux but now using macos

my server still runs ubuntu though

I am using fedora 40

before I use endeavour OS and OpenSUSE

wow

Just search for weechat tutorial

You will get

How do you get into Linux in school days itself?

Check kaniyam.com/events

Subscribe to the events calendar from computer

We have weekly kanchiLUG meetings

Monthly ilugc meetings

And daily IRC meetings

What programming languages you all know?

Do you have a blog?

Reply here once you subscribed to kaniyam calendar

I have a medium blog.

Not too active

blogs.kaniyam.cloudns.nz/p/

You can read all our blogs here

Does medium provide RSS feed ?

Yes, It provides, here is the blog

I have subscribed to kaniyam calendar

thanks Varun777

added your blog on on blogs.kaniyam.cloudns.nz/p/i

nice to see your colorful terminal

keep writing

thanks shrini

what are you learning after college Varun777 ?

I am learning AI/ML. Started Math

hello shrini

Also I have done a project for monitoring laptop batteries on linux. Inspired from powercfg on windows

hi anish

good Varun777

share the source link

make it as gnome extension or kde widget too

Varun777: have you checked out powertop utility

Please make a review on it

i'm working on a blog for arch linux

few links to read

read these links later

now join few mailing lists

once you subscribed, confirmation email will be sent

click the link on that email

anish is sending "one day one command" email

anish: publish those content in your blog too, daily

give one line space for each item

so that it will look pretty

thanks for the good service

yes shrini i'm doing in my blog also did i send the link

shrini, i am a 1st year cse student, started using GNU/Linux at the age of 13, but i regret not utilizing the time to do anything significant. currently learning web development from odin project.

no shrini i'm learning as i do everything so it helps me also

here's my github with some silly stupid codes github.com/fury999io

happy to know that you all learnt linux and using it in school/college days

you will enjoy a great tech life with linux

shrini, yeah foss has changed my life

btw here's my personal site fury999io.vern.cc

when i made it i had very little webdev skills

i will update it once i complete odin project

what is odin project?

can you share more info on that?

shrini, a free (both as in beer and speech) organized curriculum for learning web development. it basically aggregates and organizes stuff from various other sources one after other.

step by step we have to visit those articles and videos to learn

interesting

link ?

is anyone use emacs?

anish: share your blog link here

which blog shrini

got it

publish the ODOC as individual blogs

dont put all in a same blog post

fury999io: good to see your site

do you have RSS feed for this?

seems you have

shrini, yeah but it will change once i start using my own domain

seems last two posts are empty

fix them

these were never written

do you use hugo there?

i was just planninng to write

or plan html ?

shrini, nope its built from scratch

with plain html and css

btw i am part of a newly formed glug at kolkata

happy to know about kolkata glug

are you running any meetings?

shrini, none yet but we plan to do soon

some of the members have met in real life

some go for osm mapping events

good

update the activities in the blog

if possible, start a simple free blog with wordpress.com so that you can focus only on the contnet

kanchilug.wordpress.com

yep i will do soon

check this site

nice

we maintin this from 2009

many people come and go

but, writing and posting is very quick and simple with wordpress

shrini, is it still active

yes. still active

we run weekly online meetings

the old lugs in kolkata have all died

thats why we started a new one

shrini as you told i started learning about the group project

i don't know how to code the entire thing

good anish

what project you are planning to do ?

fury999io: yes, LUGs have rises and falls

here or my college project

we can not run them for our life time

we have to prepare the next gen always

its like a relay race

you run for some time and handover the task to next person

on the LUG blog, write about all the events,activities you all do

like OSM parties

yep

will soon

anish: write down your project requirements to tiny small steps

programming is all about breaking a big thing into million tiny items

the path planning project i'm working on?

yes

so my project tries to optimise an attention mechanism in other path planning models like dqn

right now we're using dqn(deep q network), ddqn(double deep q network)

then we also use d3qn(dueling and double deep q network)

those are all path planning models

so attention mechanism filters the information in the input wether they're useful or not

we are right now comparing the results of using an attention mechanism and not using one

after showing to the evaluators in my project that using an attention mechanism is better we would like to make it as optimised as possible

good to know these

anish: check the replies in ilugc mailing list

for your ODOC

ok shrini

add [ODOC] in the subject line

ok shrini

so that people can add filter it in email clients

use linebreaks

for each item

with the square brackets

yes

ok shrini i will use linebreaks

[ODOC] - One day One Command - day 4: cat

like this

ok shrini i will do it from today

shrini tommorow we have to submit a presentation for the project

i will have to leave now

thank you everyone

thanks anish

shrink Hi

hi annamalai

vii_majesty: Varun777 have you joined kanchilug and ilugc mailing lists?

fury999io: you?

fury999io: do you have any mailing list for kolkota glug?

shrini: fury999io: Its very interesting to know about history of LUGs on other states

shrini: no, I havent joined mailing lists

shrini: no

what is kanchilug

i know about ilugc but i am not from chennai

it is kanchi linux users group

ilugc = indian linux users group chennai

subscribe for both now

you can subscribe from anywhere

i know about ilugc

but i am not from chennai

these two are , few active LUGs in India

we have global members in both mailing lists

fury999io: where do you run your irc bot for rss feeds?

do you have any server running for it?

he has a raspberry pi

good

we need speakers for ilugc meetings

happens on every month, second saturday evening

hope you can give talk about the irc bot

or about fedora or osm

ilugc talks can be in english

join the mailing lists

we will send call for speakers email

reply with your thoughts there

fury999io: are you using the other services by vern.cc ?

they provide many services

interesting

shrini: Can you help me where I can see holidays .ics file or calendar for tamil nadu holidays

will check

👍

try the ICS link there

/names

shrini, nope, once i start blogs for it i will add mailing list too

ok fury999io

shrini, i run the bot on my raspberry pi running at home

nice to know about that

give a talk on ilugc meeting about that

and may be about vern.cc and its services

or any other topic you wis

shrini, i have a peertube account on vern's instance but it has bugs so i don't use. and sometimes i use thier other services like invidious etc'

h

shrini, is the talk a video confernce? or on irc?

on jitsi

shrini, nice. but i have never spoken in front of people. i lack speaking skills. however my friend might do on my behalf.

thats fine

i however dream to be a good speaker i will practice it

you can talk just like a beginner

no need to be an expect

alright i will try

just share whatever you know

when do you host the meeting and how do i get informed?

ilugc meetings helped me to grow in all aspects

even if cannot talk in the beginning days i would like to attend and listen others

alright

join here

every month second saturday, we have meetings in 4-5 or 4-6

will send mail

okay

do you all speak in tamil too?

ilugc is english only

kanchilug is for tamil

ohk

good

hope you clicked the confirmation link on email too

yeah done

thanks

anish is sending one day one command mails

great that's useful

fury999io: what are the other IRC channels you are in?

vii_majesty: you ?

shrini, i am mostly active on #indian #fsf #dgplug

however speaking of all i am on more than 100 channels

including other networks

on rizon i am active on #libertarian

can you share a list of active IRC channels in libera.chat network/

shrini many

as a blog post

shrini, yeah sure

#indian is good

if you want to join

so that we can share that to all newbies and join

yep good idea

shrini have you seen netsplit.de website?

many people came into IRC and leave, as they dont see any active discussions

shrini, if its mainly for indian audience then i have suggestions for indian channels

yes, thats fine

shrini, ask them to join #indian it's extremely active

mainly because whenever we find indians on irc we ask them to join it and guide them to use irc bouncers

netsplit.de is nice

other than that #learnandteach is founded by an indian: kushal das. he works for projects like tor project, python etc

joined

shrini, i guess you might know kushal das already

right?

yes. i know kushal and #dgplug

some other channel suggestions

I am sharing old DGPlug IRC chat logs to pull people to IRC

##hiya is run by my friend who is indian and a sysadmin

shrini, nice

##cricket is also very active and has indians

##chatbots has irc chatbots that run over chatgpt, bard etc

#gnulinuxindia this is mainly a telegram and matrix group but is bridged to irc. however almost nobody from irc talks here.

do we have to use double ## to join these channels?

yeah

shrini, yes some of the channels use double

idk why interesting channels all use double #

or maybe since they appear on top i remember them more

## is for informal channels

off topic

vii_majesty, offtopic as in libera's topic?

now i understood why

not sure

then we should have been on ##indian instead of #indian

On IRC, channels generally begin with the hashtag (#). On networks like Snoonet, Freenode, and Libera. Chat, a single hashtag (like #ircnow) indicates an official channel, whereas two hashtags (like ##chat) is an unofficial channel.

ohl

*ohk

got it

thanks

few years back, learnt about BSD from ircnow channels

shrini, wow someone from ircnow also suggested me to take the course

also thanks for reminding, i will join the network again

i don't connect there these days as i forgot

i used to be in another interesting network. its by techrights.org

do they provide a course on BSD ?

annamalai, yes

here are many OpenBSD guides

oh nice

shrini, is that a list of all courses they offer?

they cover a lot

Is there any IRC chats available for machine learning and AI

not sure

the recent kids use discord for their chats

there may be ML channels

we have to find them

Hi all

Is today any convo ran in 7-8 today

hariharan, a lot actually

Ohh i see i can't catch it

Now i see only your message

hariharan, i am sending you the logs for today

we have a +1 student here

the logs are available online

hariharan, 0bin.net/paste/b+LOa3pR#gQxt24DrIBu4umaQUP6fMKuhWeMXQMHOMzRbPfTtYQC

at ircbot.comm-central.org:8080/kaniyam

who using linux

vii_majesty, i have have copied the logs myself and pasted on a pastebin

shrini, who is he?

fury999io: we use logbot_cc to log all our discussions here automatically

shrini, ah nice

we can read them all here

shrini, can i get the source code

i would like to add it to #indian

read more info here

thanks

you can use the same or self host it

code link - github.com/globau/logbot

alright

vii_majesty: mybatop works more differently than powertop. Its just Linux Version same as powercfg for windows

Varun777: what is different about it?"

i am not familiar with powercfg

control panel uses powercfg right

powertop works like cpu stress version and battery usage status for just 20 seconds

as a first look

mybatop logs your battery details since your installation

oh, thats nice Varun777

and provide only battery performance and usage

write a blog post on it with a sample html file

so that we can know about it easily

Ok shrini

I have to do various refactoring in my code. My bash code sucks

also need to write test cases using pytest

good

if it is too late for anyone, can leave

its fine to stay here and continue any discussions

taking a break for cookig

i am having znc, so i can stay connected

: )

what is znc btw

irc bouncer, it keeps you connected to irc

even after you close your client

kursi !

Varun777, are you new to irc?

we run znc server we can provide you an account

zoom zoom !

fury999io, o/

Yeah I am very new to IRC

Armageddon, \o welcome to this channel

I was promised chat !

Varun777, wait i am creating an account for you

kaartic, o/

furry999io: 👍

Varun777, \o

Armageddon: what does \o mean

hello

or something

Varun777, yeah it means hello

>we have a +1 student here

shrini, is Varun777 the new student you are saying?

*you were

hand --> \o <-- head

more like an arm than a hand, eh !

o/

vii_majesty, o/

Armageddon: where to know these code words need to be used for IRC

any docs can you prefer

not code words, just symbols

like o/ is a wave

code ? :/

O_o

o_O

think about it

i know a code word too

if !

person holding up their hand looks like o/

yeah symbols, I mean

zenin, share your secret with me !

8==D

bad zenin !

heh

fury999io: have you created znc server account

Varun777, oh wait i got distracted for a while

btw what client are you using

the steps to connect will depend on the client

Varun777

pidgin

ohhhhhhhhhhh we found one in the wild !

a pidgin user

Varun777, i have never tried it but can you follow the docs if i share

znc has guide for all clients

should be like a regular IRC server, no fury999io ?

o/

Armageddon, irc server or client you mean?

Varun777, do you know how you configured IRC to get here ?

fury999io, server

fury999io, to him/her, it's like a new IRC server they need to configure instead of connecting here

- Installed pidgin

Armageddon, no its not a different irc server

- created account for IRC using add accounts

its a bouncer

not to the client it isn't

yeah right

that's what I'm saying

he has to configure the client

but

okay i got iot

*it

but

started connecting with #kaniyam chat by clicking buddies option

he has to do some extra steps

yeah to login

yep

that should be generic to most clients /quote login user pass

did I remember it correctly ?

or auth was it ?

you all are using in irc in CLI?

vii_majesty, what was that module i have to enable in order to login

not always though

fury999io, module for what exactly ? where ?

Armageddon, a kind of login where the znc server won't get the libera password. the user will authenticate over here and libera will create a session.

and its also needed because libera blocks vps ip by default if not logged in

wait i think i remembered

its SASL

oh, btw, you don't have the webui enabled ?

yeah i have

it all can be done in it

much much easier

i am using that

yeah

but forgot the name

sasl

that logs in before you connect

Armageddon: o/

pretty nifty

kaartics, \o

Varun777, account creation done

the username is varun

password sent in dm

varun varun !

furry999io: ok

and the znc server hostname is oracle.vivekkadre.com at port 1025

and the steps to connect: i am sharing some docs

i am going for dinner, you can try yourself

if you face any issues you can join via the webchat of libera web.libera.chat

to ask for help

fury999io, what's for dinner ?

so here it is

Armageddon, well idk yet, i will tell you after coming back :)

bye

hmm

enjoy o/

have a good dinner furry999io

Bye guys, Have a great day, See you tommorrow guys

yeah. have a great day. bye \o

fury999io: sasl

i am back

kaartic, done connecting your client to znc?

oh sorry it was varun

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any idea how useful these google cloud badges are?