10:20:31 <Syed> Hiii
10:50:45 <sugi> hi shrini
10:53:20 <sugi> i had a intro about bootstrap in payilagam, but did not work on it, so let me try that 
10:53:55 <sugi> and let me connect after diwali - thanks
13:33:18 <shrini-irccloud> Hello all
13:34:20 <sethu_payilagam> Good morning Shrini
13:34:21 <sethu_payilagam> Update for today: I am able to output the bill to a pdf file. But the format still has to be fixed. But the functionality is working 
13:34:29 <sethu_payilagam> very good learning :) in terms of how not to do things :D
13:35:36 <shrini-irccloud> :-)
13:35:48 <shrini-irccloud> That's the real learning
13:36:09 <shrini-irccloud> Try different paper size for PDF too
13:36:19 <shrini-irccloud> Regular a4 
13:36:31 <shrini-irccloud> And the small one we get in local shops
13:38:36 <shrini-irccloud> Blog and code in git?
13:38:51 <anish> hello everyone
13:39:01 <shrini-irccloud> What library do you use for PDF export ?
13:39:07 <shrini-irccloud> Hello anish 
13:40:44 <anish> i didn't make much progress today
13:40:59 <anish> me and my friends were doing a group project
13:41:00 <shrini-irccloud> That's fine
13:41:09 <shrini-irccloud> Nice
13:41:15 <shrini-irccloud> What is that project ?
13:41:48 <anish> it is path planning project using dqn and channel attention
13:42:23 <shrini-irccloud> What is dqn ?
13:42:34 <shrini-irccloud> Can you explain more about your project ?
13:43:02 <anish> i'm not fully aware of the project my team is working on
13:43:11 <anish> but i help them with python stuff
13:43:30 <anish> making csv files for the data produced
13:43:40 <anish> making the graphs with the data
13:44:58 <anish> nobody in our team was interested in taking the project but our co-ordinator forced us to if we had to pass
13:45:19 <shrini-irccloud> Hmm
13:45:21 <anish> so most of the code is also from github repositories
13:45:32 <shrini-irccloud> Any project is good only
13:45:48 <shrini-irccloud> By doing something only we can learn the basics
13:46:12 <shrini-irccloud> When learning, we should do only small projects
13:46:48 <shrini-irccloud> Building a project , from idea to a good working product , will give many learnings apart from coding
13:47:02 <shrini-irccloud> Nowadays, we can get code from many places
13:47:23 <shrini-irccloud> Stackoverflow, github, AI generators like chatcpt
13:47:30 <shrini-irccloud> Gpt
13:47:41 <anish> yes i know little about the project but the project they gave us is way too advanced right now with our knowledge
13:47:56 <shrini-irccloud> But, we have to be good at basics, then only we can build what we want
13:48:59 <shrini-irccloud> Most of the times it happens like below
13:49:19 <anish> i don't understand
13:49:31 <shrini-irccloud> We think like with our less knowledge, we can do only small projects
13:49:47 <shrini-irccloud> But by doing big projects only we will get more knowledge
13:50:04 <shrini-irccloud> Don't worry about project is big or small
13:50:17 <shrini-irccloud> Try to split into 100s of small parts
13:50:29 <anish> i will try my best
13:50:29 <shrini-irccloud> And start doing those small parts
13:50:53 <shrini-irccloud> All together combined, it will give nice experience and result
13:51:08 <anish> ok shrini i will work on learninng it as much as i can
13:51:35 <anish> on my first command i wanted to choose cd
13:51:46 <anish> i had some doubts yesterday
13:52:47 <anish> there are some directories which say permissioon denied if we cd went it
13:54:02 <anish> can we somehow use sudo to get into those directories or is becomeing root the only option
13:57:06 <shrini-irccloud> Becoming root is the only option
13:57:29 <shrini-irccloud> Its all based on the folder permissions and ownerships
13:57:48 <shrini-irccloud> ls -lh /
13:57:57 <anish> ok shrini i will update in blog
13:58:09 <shrini-irccloud> Run the above command and check the permissions of /root
13:58:25 <anish> sudo ls works but i wanted to know if we could cd
13:58:29 <shrini-irccloud> Explore about user, group, others permissions in Linux
13:59:05 <shrini-irccloud> We can do cd into /root as normal user or sudo
14:00:05 <anish> so we can cd if we alter permissions or file ownership
14:00:19 <anish> i will check it
14:02:50 <shrini-irccloud> Ok
14:09:07 <amotbeli> in tamil linux community's youtube channel, watched the intro to databases presentation
14:09:35 <amotbeli> it was by sethu_payilagam, i think? it was really good.
14:12:57 <shrini-irccloud> Yes
14:13:05 <shrini-irccloud> sethu_payilagam gave the talk
14:13:10 <shrini-irccloud> Nice one
14:17:34 <amotbeli> yeah, very accessible to absolute beginners too
14:17:44 <amotbeli> looking forward to his next
14:21:46 <anish> pwd: This command stands for print working directory. Like the namme suggests it is used to get the current working directory. Syntax = pwd
14:22:04 <anish> is this good enough shrini or can i make it better
14:25:23 <shrini-irccloud> This is good start
14:25:34 <shrini-irccloud> install tldr
14:25:38 <shrini-irccloud> then
14:25:42 <shrini-irccloud> tldr pwd
14:25:53 <shrini-irccloud> Give this to know most used options
14:25:58 <shrini-irccloud> Share them all too
14:26:53 <shrini`> amotbeli: any updates from you?
14:28:00 <shrini`> for TVA, metadata scraping, add the below feature
14:28:25 <shrini`> if we scrap a page successfully, store its url in a seperate file
14:28:26 <amotbeli> shrini, i just watched that databases talk and am reading the configparser tutorial
14:28:41 <shrini`> if failed, write the url on another file
14:29:01 <shrini`> on next execution, skip the urls on the success file
14:29:17 <shrini`> finally rerun for the failed urls
14:29:23 <shrini`> take your time
14:29:41 <shrini`> hope the deepavali time will be busy for all
14:29:51 <shrini`> suji informed that she will join next monday
14:30:07 <amotbeli> sure, shrini
14:39:30 <sethu_payilagam> Apologies Shrini. my office standup went overtime
14:40:27 <sethu_payilagam> Blog and code in git? - Yes Shrini. Infact captured a funny story during the debugging time as a separate post :)
14:49:49 <shrini`> nice
14:50:00 <shrini`> no need for apologies
14:50:49 <sethu_payilagam> ok Shrini
14:50:58 <shrini`> https://reachmesethu.wordpress.com/2024/10/30/general-failure-to-learn-from-mistakes/
14:51:02 <shrini`> good to read this
14:51:14 <shrini`> share the blog posts link and git repo link here
14:51:28 <shrini`> many people are reading the chat logs daily
14:51:38 <shrini`> eventhough they can attend, they read the logs
14:51:49 <shrini`> giving the links here will help them to explore more
14:51:56 <shrini`> on what we are discussing here
14:52:21 <sethu_payilagam> Thank you shrini!
14:53:14 <shrini`> good to see the result pdf here
14:53:29 <shrini`> https://reachmesethu.wordpress.com/2024/10/30/task3c-billingapp-with-output-in-pdf-filenot-formatted-properly/
14:53:45 <shrini`> learn about configparse
14:54:11 <shrini`> and environment variables
14:54:29 <shrini`> get the db username, password, hostname from environment variables
14:54:41 <shrini`> should not hardcode in the code we write
14:55:01 <shrini`> make the PDF look like regular bill
14:55:11 <shrini`> shop name, address on top, with some big letters
14:55:17 <shrini`> then the table of items
14:55:42 <shrini`> one item per line with no, name, price, quantity, bill price
14:55:53 <shrini`> then at last, total in number and text
14:55:58 <shrini`> then thanks note
14:59:24 <sethu_payilagam> Sure Shrini. Yes, I too felt the same when hardcoding the connection string.
14:59:38 <sethu_payilagam> I will change it and post the next version soon
15:00:36 <shrini`> ok
15:04:44 <shrini`> sethu_payilagam: send mail to kanchilug on next talk details 
15:04:48 <shrini`> for this sunday meet
15:11:28 <anish> https://dev.to/anish_kumar_eea79f528747d/one-day-one-commandcli-2m17
15:11:45 <anish> link for one day one command
15:11:58 <anish> i will soon update them in the mailing lists also
15:12:16 <anish> bye everyone i have to go
15:14:33 <sethu_payilagam> Sure shrini
15:33:10 <shrini`> 🧨🧨🧨🧨🧨🧨
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15:34:43 <shrini`> tons of wishes for deepavali
19:10:01 <annamalai> shrini: Kinda completed with the translation https://github.com/KaniyamFoundation/ProjectIdeas/issues/218#issuecomment-2448099246
19:10:14 <annamalai> please have a look at it
19:10:58 <annamalai> there is still some mess with MD/HTML tags which i will clean sooner
19:11:25 <annamalai> Happy Diwali to all